From Louise Mensch: sources have outlined evidence that exists against multiple men in the line of

[Ilsa]

Succession to the US Presidency, as it relates to Russia’s hack on America.

Several separate sources with links to the intelligence communities of more than one nation, and with links within the US state and federal justice systems, have outlined evidence that exists against multiple men in the line of succession to the US Presidency, as it relates to Russia’s hack on America. I can also exclusively report a RICO case is being considered against the Republican party for laundering Russian money.

These sources say that Senator Orrin Hatch of Utah, who was the ‘Designated Survivor’ at the inauguration of Donald Trump (yes, really) is likely to become President if charges are pursued, according to the evidence, of illegal collusion with Russia, money laundering, and obstruction of justice.

On Donald Trump there is voluminous evidence he knowingly colluded with the Russian state in the hacking of the U.S election, and laundered Russian money through shell companies. This evidence is both data-based, for example, based on the way the server he registered laundered stolen voter registration databases with the DNC’s Vertica database in order to target Russian propaganda at voters.

He has additionally both directly obstructed justice and conspired with others to do so. Rather than repeat previous reporting in this piece I will devote a separate article to the case against Mr. Trump.


https://patribotics.blog/2017/05/11/sources-russia-probe-means-president-hatch-rico-case-against-gop/

Take this however you wish, but with the fbi raids on gop in VA, maybe it fits.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

1. Constitutional scholars need to find way to take Pres away from criminal RepubliCon Party.

Since they stole the Electoral College it should go to the Majority Vote winner Hillary Clinton.

That would actually be truly democratic (small 'd').

But the wisdom of the Founders did not extend to a Party colluding with a foreign adversary to steal the Electoral College.

[L. Coyote]

17. That's quite easy to do. President resigns, Pence nominates a Dem V-P. Pence resigns.

Let me amend that before the blowback knock my office chair over backwards.

That's quite easy to do Constitutionally.

Trump's New Impeachable Offenses: Obstruction of Justice, Conspiracy, Abuse of Power

[Bernardo de La Paz]

19. Seriously, good point. If the investigations show enough treason, it can happen.

It might end up being the only way the Republicons might have a hope of rescuing their brand.

[L. Coyote]

24. Take note of what the vote count must be to approve a new V-P!

They will have to compromise with the Dems to get the next V-P in place. It will require unquestionable integrity. If the election is shown to be fraudulent, it should be Hillary.

That process could start next week the way the shit is hitting the fan this week.

[2naSalit]

48. +1

[SoCalMusicLover]

54. In Other Words, Something Fair & Appropriate

Never happen, this is America 2017.

[Amaryllis]

66. They also didn't have computers/internet then, which opens a whole new universe of

criminal activity they didn't address in the Constitution. Since this is unprecedented, shouldn't we have an unprecedented remedy? Theoretically yes, but methinks we are bound by what the Founders actually addresses at the time. Maybe this is how empires fall.

Or maybe good will triumph over evil in the end...my senator's aide told me there are a lot of very good and very smart people working on this in DC, so not to lose hope. (Senator Wyden of Senate Intel)

[geek tragedy]

2. this is starting to read like fantasy instead of reporting. I mean, Orrin Hatch the next president?

Come on.

[hvn_nbr_2]

5. Agree. How in the world could it fall to Hatch?

There is no place in the established line of succession that Hatch fits.

On edit: Is Hatch the president pro temp of the Senate? I don't know who is. Usually it's someone older than Methusala (sp?).

[bathroommonkey76]

7. He's thinking of retiring in 2018. n/t

[Codeine]

9. He is the President pro tempore

[Bernardo de La Paz]

22. Simultaneous indictments, esp. if no VP successor appointed.

Suppose tRump resigns, Pence rises, appoints a VP who gets tied up in confirmations and then Ryan & Pence & Tillerson are forced to resign en masse after indictments before the VP is confirmed.

Very unlikely, but possible. Republicons would ram through a confirmation ASAP come hell or high water before any forced resignations would be announced.

[ATL Ebony]

70. Unless the cabinet is indicted as well (entirely possible), they're in the lineup too.

According to Wikipedia, the succession follows the order of Vice President, Speaker of the House, President pro tempore of the Senate, and the cabinet, which currently has fifteen members, beginning with the Secretary of State.

As someone posted earlier, here's a link

[volstork]

8. He is president pro tempore of the Senate,

and therefore next in line after ryan.

[geek tragedy]

10. The idea that we'd get rid of Ryan and Pence is fantastical.

If they had to sacrifice Trump, they'd put all the blame on him and his inner circle of cronies.

[CrispyQ]

28. I think it's the reason long time repubs have continued to stall on a real investigation -

they know some of the GOP upper echelon is going down, too. ~crosses fingers. But they play dirty & if they think they are cornered, who knows what the party will do. For the sake of the planet, I hope this investigation takes out the GOP. They are the most dangerous organization on the planet right now. They refuse to live in the 21st century & face up to 21st century problems. They won't admit that they have largely created or aggravated most of the serious problems we face. They are petty and arrogant & it's time for an accounting.

[geek tragedy]

30. If they were really worried about impeachment and removal of Trump and Pence, they'd dump Trump now

and keep Pence+Ryan before 2018 when Democrats can possibly retake the House Speakership.

[thesquanderer]

15. Unlikely as it may be, Hatch is probably the best possible outcome.

He's 4th in line, and would be better than Trump, Pence, or Ryan.

If Trump/Pence could "hold on" until into 2019, and Dems took the House, the Dem speaker would be in line after Pence, but a lot of damage can be done between now and then.

Not that any of this is especially likely, but all possible...

[get the red out]

3. An interesting tid-bit

Something to keep in mind as the FBI raid unfolds.

[LonePirate]

4. Hatch is third in succession behind Pence and Ryan.

This story, if true and if it comes to be, would explain Ryan's unequivocal loyalty to 45.

[regnaD kciN]

56. I could see impeaching Trump...

...I could even see Pence getting caught in the net. But Ryan? He wasn't a part of the Trump campaign. And I really can't see the House passing articles of impeachment against its own Speaker.

[NCcoast]

68. There have been rumors...

that Russian money was laundered through PACs into the GOP's campaign fund. If so that would implicate Ryan, McConnell and Priebus.

[Sparkly]

6. At what point could this invalidate the election??

(She said wishfully...)

[onenote]

12. At no point.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

14. Constitutional scholars need to find way to take Pres away from criminal RepubliCon Party.

That RICO gang can't be rewarded by being allowed to appoint new presidents one after another as they go down to indictment/conviction/resignation.

It would be democratic (small 'd') to ensure that the majority vote winner Hillary Clinton gets the office after the Republicon ticket is disqualified for stealing the Electoral College by treasonous collusion with a foreign adversary.

[forgotmylogin]

21. If they can't nullify the election...

They should at least roll back EVERY SINGLE EO and piece of legislation made by the current administration. It won't take long.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

25. From now on, no more judicial confirmations. This is the last year of the tRump Presidency. . . . nt

[bucolic_frolic]

26. Agree

and if Hatch is the guy, and he pledges to listen to both sides, and talks straight,
we'll just count ourselves lucky

But i wouldn't bank on it

[onenote]

31. Who is "they" that will do that?

[Feathery Scout]

37. That Would Start An Actual War....

I've been watching the alt-right websites very closely....and they are having fits about Trump's Investigation.

First they just laughed it off and mocked the liberals.

Now....they are furious at every GOP who doesn't throw their entire body in front of Trump whenever the need arises. They want *everyone* primaried right now for not supporting Trump strongly enough and not doing enough to stop things.

And as far as actual impeachment? Their take is that Obama and Hillary have 'gotten away with so much corruption for so long' that anything they find on Trump is 'nothing compared to them'.

And that Obama and Hillary had better go to jail first....before Trump even gets looked at.

These are violent people....I worry about Obama/Hillary.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

40. Such threats will not prevent doing what needs doing. But Republicons have some levers of power left

[angrychair]

43. Smoke and mirrors

It's been my experience that most of those idiots are keyboard warriors at best and are unlikely to put forth the effort it will take to leave their bunker (aka mom's basement).

[Feathery Scout]

50. Glad to hear that

[Hortensis]

60. Or their recliners pointed at the TV.

We are acquainted with a bunch of them. They do vote their hostility, however.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

49. They're violent people but there aren't really that many of them.

Big mouths and lots of wannabes.

[regnaD kciN]

57. Problem is, there's no way of doing it...

...without the Republicans choosing to vote themselves out of power. Which isn't going to happen, period.

[Johnny2X2X]

11. Not sold in this source

Seeing Patribotics posted everywhere all the sudden, doesn't not appear credible to me.

Perhaps trying to make Line sound like conspiracy nuts.

[Ilsa]

13. I'm okay with that assessment.

But I had not seen this new post before, and some elements sounded intriguing.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

16. She scooped the media in July 2016, so it is not "all of a sudden". . . nt

[Hortensis]

61. No. She only claimed to.

The NY Times -- just to name one -- publishes AFTER it confirms facts, even if that means 2 days to 2 weeks' delay. The NYT is comparatively boring with its usual formula understatement, but it has been awarded 122 Pulitzer prizes for excellence in journalism, the reason why I continue to subscribe in spite of its history-making corruption of journalistic principle regarding the Clintons.

As for Mensch, imo, she's a phony and more than slightly dishonest conspiracy peddler, but there is a market for what she's selling.

Not just MY opinion, btw. That market does not include her colleagues, who never cite her as a source. They're all too familiar with these self-aggrandizing people who spring up wherever opportunity does.

[BadgerMom]

18. For me, Mensch is worth considering

I don't take every word as gospel. She doesn't expect it. She's very up front about it when she's piecing things together vs. reporting from her sources. She's been way ahead of the MSM on the FISA warrants, grand juries and potential arrests. I take her with a grain of salt but enough of her information pans out that she's worth reading, I find.

[Eyeball_Kid]

32. When her stuff pans out, she earns credibility. She's not a psychic. She simply has good, trusted

sources, and she keeps those relationships going.

I like reading her feed because she includes retweets from other researchers who have comparable credibility. It's been a great find.

[PEJ27]

35. Agree

She's got so many sources and has been totally spot on so far.

[Norbert9]

46. Yesterday she said there would be arrests today. No arrests

[GliderGuider]

59. One of her sources probably confused search warrants with arrest warrants.

Not exactly a reason to boil her in oil. Or even diss her. She, Claude Taylor and John Schindler have been the premiere citizen journalists throughout this caper. The MSM has been batting clean-up a week or two after they break the stories.

[Norbert9]

64. No. They have not been. Just tease after tease

[GliderGuider]

67. Disrupt much?

Do you even follow them?

[L. Coyote]

20. You'll soon be all alone in that field. She has an inside track on intel.

And you'renot the first to push back on her reporting. DU was hacked and taken down as this thread started going viral on election day:

FBI has FISA warrant for Trump secret server connected to Russia.

[bucolic_frolic]

23. "if charges are pursued"

it's so large a case, much of the public won't understand it

privilege will leave most of them untouched

the voter targeting for basically propaganda to me is the most insidious,
and can it be proven?

the entrance of Hatch means Pence and Ryan are some of 'multiple men' targeted

[LudwigPastorius]

27. So, her source is predicting the arrest or forced resignations of Trump, Pence, and Ryan?

Sounds great, but until that happens, I'll take that report with a truckload of salt.

[Eyeball_Kid]

29. What is stunning on its face is that the right wing media is complicit in

perpetuating Trumpy's delusional reality system. They speak about politics as if nothing is really happening. It's just the usual "fair and balanced" propaganda. It's a bubble with no life. Until the arrest warrants start to reach the media, with names, the bubble will remain intact. The bubble is about to burst. Then what, Trumpy Fanboys? Will Trumpy still be your hero when he's faced with criminal charges, including a RICO charge? Eh?

I'm going to be especially delighted when Pence and Ryan are charged.

It's all about the money, isn't it?

[mackdaddy]

65. Maybe Fox "News" could be roped int the RICO charges...

I know not likely. But, one can always dream.

[ProudProgressiveNow]

33. K&R nt

[Texin]

34. On TRMS last nite, she said that reports were breaking about tRump hiring lawyers

supposedly yesterday. She said that the reports from sources were just breaking then (apparently being sourced for the NYT or WaPo, or both), but there were no details as to the firm (which would have given a clue about what this may relate to).

I heard nothing further on it on MSNBC since or in any of the East Coast news sources. Wonder if this relates to what's going on now and I wonder if tRump firing Comey on Monday was intended to head off those "multiple" warrants being executed today. Is it possible tRump thought that by firing Comey he'd prevent this from happening, i.e., they'd be so cowed that they wouldn't be able to do anything in the aftermath. I do think he's brazen and narcissistic enough to believe that he's got that much imperial power, BTW.

[regnaD kciN]

58. You'd think Trump would have been lawyered-up for decades already...

I can't see him suddenly deciding he needed legal assistance as of a couple of days ago.

[cab67]

36. I want this to be true, but....

...so far, all of the news reports suggest it's about activities related to the 2013 VA gubernatorial race.

[tiredtoo]

38. Why is none of this being reported on MSM? EOM

[Ilsa]

39. Unconfirmed to msm journalists, I suppose. nt

[NCjack]

41. FBI arrests all members of Congress that took Russian money. The prosecutor charges

and prosecutes them as a criminal gang -- none get an individual trial. Deals cut, with mandatory requirement that they resign their seat in Congress. The remaining members of the House elect a President and V.P.

[yurbud]

42. getting into the voter registration database is a lot more serious than releasing Podesta's emails

I hope they have the evidence to make that stick.

Trump is clearly in way over his head.

[Norbert9]

44. Shulkin was designated survivor not Hatch. I want to believe but I'm skeptical.

[grantcart]

47. Exactly plus why would Ryan not be President before Hatch

Often wrong on the known facts shouldn't be trusted with speculation.

[Ilsa]

51. She implied he would be taken down as well. nt

[Gidney N Cloyd]

52. I gathered that we'd have to get as far down as Hatch to find someone uncompromised by the Russians

[Demtexan]

45. Who would want to be attached in anyway to this train wreck.

Think about.

The name trump is gutted.

[mgardener]

53. Chavetz?

That's why he had foot surgery and possibly retiring early?

[Ilsa]

55. I think he took a classified letter from

Comey, removed classified markings, and showed it to fellow congresscritters. He became compromised.

Another story says russians had kompromat on him, which is why he's slowly backing away from public life.

[mn9driver]

62. According to news articles, the Annapolis raid has nothing to do with russia

They are a shady outfit, but they just steal candidate money. No Russian money

[Norbert9]

63. Mensch is not reliable. I'm tired of the teases and let downs

[GliderGuider]

69. Mensch is quite reliable - for a citizen journalist.

nt