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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Real Storied Buried Today is the Plan to Steal 2020
Trump put a voter ID hawk in charge of his 'Election Integrity' groupHe's the man behind CrossCheck, which impacted the 2016 election as much as anything.
The Election was Stolen - Here's How
Sorry it's not as sexy as Russia.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)or the "far left", rather than focus on the GOP playbook.
murielm99
(30,656 posts)They have their own nefarious system of checks and balances in regards to election theft.
emulatorloo
(43,979 posts)If so, I don't get it.
There are no progressives at DU who voted for Trump.
There are no progressives anywhere who voted Trump.
Anyone who voted for Trump is not progressive or on the left. No matter if they call themselves "progressives."
radius777
(3,624 posts)The alt-left is more of a conservative/libertarian hard left that is supportive of statist economic policies, nationalism, etc - and sympathetic to dictators like Putin and Trump.
The mainstream Dem left/center-left is in the old liberal and progressive Western tradition, whereas the alt-left is not.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)And the Russians paid her, with Flynn sitting next to her, because they certainly knew Stein would take votes from Hillary.
Before Stein, Nader was paid by Rove.
Stein and Nader are PART OF the GOP strategy, not just some progressive fantasy.
So blaming Stein is THE SAME as blaming the GOP.
That is one and the same.
Mister Ed
(5,896 posts)Hadn't heard it anywhere before. Do you know where I can read up on it a bit? Thanks.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)Furthermore, Karl Rove and the Republican Party knew this, and so they nurtured and crucially assisted Naders campaigns, both in 2000 and in 2004. On 27 October 2000, the APs Laura Meckler headlined GOP Group To Air Pro-Nader TV Ads. She opened: Hoping to boost Ralph Nader in states where he is threatening to hurt Al Gore, a Republican group is launching TV ads featuring Nader attacking the vice president [Mr. Gore]
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During the 2004 election contest, a local AP story from Salem, Oregon, on June 25th, was similarly headlined Pro-GOP Groups Seek to Aid Nader, Hurt Kerry, and reported, Two conservative groups [the business-oriented Citizens for a Sound Economy, and the fundamentalist Christian Oregon Family Council] have been phoning people around Oregon this week, ... in hopes of putting Naders name on Oregons presidential ballot.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/5850151/ns/msnbc-hardball_with_chris_matthews/
Business Week, and the Boston Globe have reported that Dick Egan a Bush Ranger who raised over $200,000 for the Bush/Cheney campaign has now maxed out to Nader as well.
And in Oregon the Oregon chapter of Citizens for a Sound Economy led nationally by former House Majority Leader Dick Armey funded a organizational program to get Nader on the Oregon ballot. The chapters phone banks recruited Republicans to sign up for Nader with the following message:
"Nader could peel away a lot of Kerry support in Oregon ... Liberals are trying to unite (but) we could divide this base of support" by signing up for Nader
In Michigan officials of the Michigan Republican State Party turned in 43,000 signatures to put Ralph Nader on the states ballot note 30,000 signatures are required to get on the ballot in Michigan.
https://books.google.com/books?id=gPdGc6rDHwYC&pg=PA82&lpg=PA82&dq=nader+rove&source=bl&ots=_f_tv9lE2g&sig=om3CWWCa1eF8ZgiDLQeEuEE4ngw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjR9KHzmenTAhVEwiYKHQRNAMU4ChDoAQhVMAk#v=onepage&q=nader%20rove&f=false
Mister Ed
(5,896 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Now, provide some references.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)I was hoping for something better, or at least relevant, to illustrate the charges you threw out.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)Hence why I said Paid.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)emulatorloo
(43,979 posts)3catwoman3
(23,812 posts)...is, but we should make it Kreep so his initials can be KKK.
Initech
(99,913 posts)Snarkoleptic
(5,995 posts)We need to see their e-mails, policies/procedures, workpapers, methodologies, before/after lists, ALL OF IT AND MORE!
Furthermore, we should amend the constitution to provide a positive right to vote. Every citizen 18+ years of age and who has paid their (criminal) debt to society, should be afforded the right to vote. Only then will efforts to disenfranchise folks be off limits.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)We want MORE citizens to have the opportunity to vote, not fewer.
We need election day to be a Sunday or holiday.
We need more early voting.
And there is no need for voter registration. You don't need to register to pay your taxes. The government knows who eligible voters are. Register and vote same day.