Do any of you know a Trump supporter who isn't MEAN?

[Buckeye_Democrat]

For example, a Trump voting neighbor who's a sweet old lady with an optimistic view of people and who tries to help them if she can?

I haven't met one yet, but my sample size is pretty small.

[meadowlander]

1. My uncle's just greedy and oblivious.

[pnwest]

2. Yes! A friend from high school,

art teacher, fun, funny, dead-normal. I had no idea she was even a republican, until she posted photos attending the inauguration!! Even going to a ball. Coulda knocked me over with a feather. Hasn't uttered a political word before or since.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

3. Interesting!

Did you make any inquiries into her reasons for supporting Trump? Did she miss his mocking of the reporter with a disability, I wonder?

[pnwest]

6. No, cause she's the one Republican

I haven't gotten into an all-caps shouting match with, and she survived the "great Facebook friend purge" of 2016. I like her so much, I just didn't want my illusions shattered, and another friend lost. She's never once lit into me for any of my political rants, and I didn't want to start a beef with her...

[Buckeye_Democrat]

7. Understandable. n/t

[furtheradu]

4. Goood question!

Personally, those I know just REEK ugly meanness.
I think I can see it a mile away. Makes me
..I don't want to assume any thing about any One(ain't that prejudice? !) ..I give the ole benefit o'the doubt, & it kicks my @$$, every time.
Thank YOU for posting this thought provoking post.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

9. I've known some "mean" Democrats too, but there's fewer of them.

In my life, if I meet someone who behaves like a total grouch, it's usually not too long before I hear that person making some pro-Trump or pro-Republican comments.

That seems especially true if the person appears to have a pretty decent life, in material terms.

[pressbox69]

5. Yes the klan leader that lives a couple of blocks away.

He dropped dead a couple of weeks ago.

[greymattermom]

8. You have to be mean

to hate "them" more than you love your feet.

[Cha]

10. I don't know any trump fans.. aren't I a

lucky duck.

ETA.. I take that back.. there's a sociopathic, psycho former marine in #4 that's the bully of the building. He won't shut down the throbbing base that blasts through the thin walls when the manager asks him to. It's been going on since January. The owners can't do anything either and also refuse to give him a notice to vacate.

So it's me who's leaving asap.. but that doesn't look very soon. I don't speak to him anymore and don't know if he's a trump fan but my guess is yes.. they're both bullies and have no empathy for others.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

11. Yes, at least in your immediate domain!

It obviously still stinks at the national level, trickling into our lives in various ways.

[Cha]

17. I had to take that back.. I posted a ETA in

Last edited Sat May 13, 2017, 04:48 AM - Edit history (1)

my reply.. like a 180!

So, I'm not so lucky after all.. in fact I'm trapped until I can move.. waiting on a place to open where I'm on a list but that could take years.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

21. That stinks! I've dealt with inconsiderate neighbors like that too.

Two young guys shared a double-bedroom apartment next to me, and they blasted their stereo at all hours of the day. It was seemingly random and not an everyday occurrence.

One day, one of them told me about an outdoor music festival he attended as I was leaving my apartment. I politely listened despite not liking the guy for the occasional loud music. He said that he left the festival because there were "too many Democrats there." I asked him how he knew that? Were they wearing political shirts or something? He looked at me like I was naive and said, "Black people!" I shook my head, got in my car and left. No point in engaging someone like that in my experience. I didn't have time anyway.

[Cha]

24. OMG! "Too many Dems.. "

"Black People/Dems!"

So you know what I'm going through a little bit.. yesterday it was 8 hours straight.. and it's random too.. he's done it at all hours. There is no safe time.

Right now it's blessedly peaceful and quiet. It could start any time.

[pressbox69]

12. I met an old schoolmate today.

The conversation turned to #45 and he swore he loves him. He did a few years for forgery and now lives in the park.

[jeanmarc]

13. Mean or generally racist

My immediate family is mean. My mother and sister have been hissing at me since my divorce. Like it doesn't take two people to get a divorce. My sister has never had a serious relationship, but she has all sorts of advice to put in my mother's ear. Never seen sis with a dude or a girl.

My extended family is racist. It comes from living in Louisiana. They are part of a family that put everyone through Catholic schools to avoid public education.

Each of these two groups love Trump. I am going to our annual Mother's Day dinner today with trepidation. I don't want to speak my mind as my tongue is quite sharp. It might get ugly. And I really don't want that. My sister has put ideas in my mother's head, and now I have to attend this event. Maybe I'll call in sick.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

20. Ugh, sorry to read that.

Claiming to be sick might be the best option.

[hatrack]

39. Sheesh, why go? I'd rather rearrange my sock drawer . . . .

Or scrub the shower stall.

[MedusaX]

14. Yep... mid sixties female... sweet as can be.. but is easily influenced by church pals

Who were all Cruz worshippers before jumping on the trumpwagon...
Tended to justify w/Lots of Fox sound bites..

All adjectives... no substance....
allowed herself to buy into the fear and fictionalized descriptions of rampant violence & crime...

All of which I learned after I unintentionally initiated a political discussion with her last November...

Never crossed my mind that she would have voted for him...
and me being me...
when she said she was glad the election was over,
I said something..to the effect of --

Well, If nothing else,
after enduring 4 years of rampant corruption by a president who stands for nothing other than his own personal enrichment...
I guess people will have a whole new appreciation for Traditional politicians & the status quo...
provided, that is, that we are all still alive ...

With a puzzeled expression she said
You don't think Trump will do a good job?


At which point I suddenly remembered why I prefer to stay home...

[Buckeye_Democrat]

18. Thanks! I imagined some of those church-going types voting for him.

I don't attend church, so that limits my exposure.

My long-deceased grandparents were sweet people, but they always voted Republican because they associated the GOP with God somehow. I never heard what their pastors was preaching to them, but they might have covered some politics. I think they would be absolutely appalled by Trump if they were still alive, but who knows?

[Manly_Scream]

15. My 80-year-old co-worker (grocery bagger)

On Election day and the day afterward, he claimed he just HAD to vote for Trump because Clinton would ruin the country and "a 15-year-old would do a better job than her".

But ever since then he's been competely mum on Trump and politics in general.

Either he now realizes he fucked up, or by putting a fellow old white man in office, he already did his part to "Make America Great Again" and it's all over, and all good, so there's nothing to fight for right now.

Either way, I can justifiably call him a moron, but I don't consider him mean or blatantly racist (if he was, he wouldn't civilly engage me.)

But I do feel that every Trump supporter is on some "spectrum" of being a bigot, though not all of them are full-fledged white nationalists.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

19. Thanks for sharing!

He might fit into the strictly ignorant category, then.

[Manly_Scream]

25. Just because they're "ignorant"

Does not mean that they don't have similar motives as the "mean" ones and/or the white nationalists, and they're innocent.

I live in Virginia, and I don't see *anyone* praising or defending Trump anymore, but the ones who did had these 3 things in common :

White, Elderly, Low-Income.

I truly believe these people (my co-worker included) got their egos critically bruised by their president being a black man for 8 years. Reich wing hate radio has told these people that they are special and the REAL Muricans for being white and Christian, therefore they are entitled to a bigger piece of the pie, and the libruls handed the entire pie to an African Moose-slim by putting him in office.

They believe that.

They also believed Hillary Clinton was anti-white family because "feminism", and "Benghazi" oh and because since Obama was in office for 8 years, non-whites have no right to complain about anything ever, and must kiss the white man's ring.

Again, not all of these people are white nationalists (the "alt-right&quot . They're cool with being friends with non-whites as long as they percieve them to "know their place".

[kysrsoze]

16. I know some who are not mean, but they're all extremely odd and/or stupid.

Sheesh!

[MountCleaners]

22. i know two people who are nice to people's faces

Even black people or Muslims, but they post "snowflake" memes on their Facebook page. I think it's phony of them. The memes are disturbing. So they're "nice", but do they really care about anyone who isn't white, straight, and middle-class?

[Buckeye_Democrat]

23. Ah, yes, the secretive ones.

I've met some of them too.

[TEB]

26. No it is in there genetics

[secondwind]

27. I have very nice neighbors

And I mean very nice. They would give you the shirts off their back. And they are solid Republicans.

We have the other variety as well. We live in a red state

[putitinD]

28. All the Republicans I know are just downright HATEFUL!

[Baconator]

29. Peer at work...

So yes...

[mnhtnbb]

30. I know a lot of Trump supporters who wouldn't qualify as mean

but I'm also white, so I would never have been someone they wouldn't treat nicely.

However, my brother and his wife (die-hard Republicans and Trump supporters) are extremely greedy. That is their overwhelming characteristic
that makes them identify with keeping what is theirs and not sharing. My SIL pretends to be a good Christian, but she's as greedy as they come: sickly sweet in person but will turn around and stab you in the back if she thinks she's going to get something for it that she won't have to share.

My husband's family, on the other hand, are just racists. Out right racists. Raised in Georgia--where they still live--and believe themselves to
be good Christians but are totally racists. Hated Obama with a passion. Have listened to Rush Limbaugh for years and years. As a family,
they've been very good to my husband since he was a little boy, but again, he's white and family, so why wouldn't they treat him well? Now, nobody talks
to him--and he can hardly abide visiting them--since their racism came out in the open when Obama was president.

The other Trump supporters I know--casually, friends over the years--are by and large phony Christians who have bought in to the evangelical conflation of riches on earth indicating God's approval of their lives here. Some of them are college educated, some are not. Many of them are business types (not professionals) and have a naive view of the value of capitalism. Ayn Rand types, but maybe never even read her stuff. They just think that business is "good" without really thinking about the concept of what unfettered capitalism means. I have never seen these people being mean, but I have seen them being selfish.

[tblue37]

31. Yes, many. People are tribal, so they support the side their tribe supports.

If someone belongs to a family or community that identifies as Republican, chances are he will, too. Most people don't really follow politics. They vote their "team," or vote the way those around them vote.

[MrScorpio]

32. Nope, they're all despicable assholes

[duncang]

33. Some

Now remember I live in a very red county in Texas. Normally there aren't even any democrat or other choices to even vote for.

My Mother in law. She is really a sweetheart. My father in law was mainly a republican voter. She doesn't really keep up with what the parties differences are. I keep it low key trying to convert her.

Four of my next door neighbors. A really elderly couple and their daughter and son in law who move in to help them. Both the father and son in law were preachers. They run the "christian" broadcasting network all day. The father and mother are in bad shape. He is showing signs of dementia.

All of them are lifetime r's and don't really follow news enough to see what has happened to their party.

[Bear Creek]

34. Most of them

Of the ones I know and I am surrounded. They voted out of hate. Which almost all of them claim to be christian. But in the last week or so small number of them have buyers remorse and do not know what came over them and are back to their normal self like nothing happened. The ardent support is gone they pretty much have shut up.

[Sgent]

35. Yes

one is very nice, as long as you don't ask him for anything. Its not even that he's greedy, its just he has no empathy for people not in his situation, and he and his family grew up very wealthy and he makes a good amount. I honestly believe if he had gone to public schools and university he would be very different, but he only went to very expensive private schools and private universities, and has no experience with people not in his income range.

The others are all single issue voters. They are great in so many ways, many in favor of gay rights, many support O'care, etc. Their issue is abortion, they absolutely view it as murder, and they will not vote for any candidate for president that doesn't vow to appoint judges that will overturn Roe.

[WePurrsevere]

36. A few. We live in a fairly red rural area of NY and...

while I would say most of the die hard Trumpsters up here are ignorant, bigoted and/or very mislead by Fox, and a few are sort of jerks, most of the ones I know are not what I'd call truly 'mean', at least not obviously so.

Mind you I've known some truly MEAN abusive, bullying, manipulative, controlling a-holes so in comparison others may not look to as 'mean' to me as they would someone else.

[oberliner]

37. Yes, many

Lots of kind older folks, in particular.

He is a good con man, abetted by Fox News and such.

Remember that almost every Republican thinks he's doing a good job right now, in spite of everything.

[HAB911]

38. Those I know are just asleep watching Faux News

[MoonRiver]

40. Yes

I have a beloved cousin who supported, not sure about now, him, mainly due to her being a fundamentalist Christian. I have an ex-son-in-law who supported him for the same reason. I am very close to both these people, but will never understand how ANYBODY could consider Chump a good Christian! However, I've learned to just never bring up the issue. They will learn, if they haven't already, how despicable that evil SOB is.

I also am close to another animal rights activist who hated Hillary, and supported Chump to keep her from winning. Again, aside from politics, I dearly love this woman, who has done so much good for animals.

I have been pretty shocked to find out people I care deeply for and who are, otherwise, wonderful, caring people, could have been so conned.

I want to add that, based on some fb posts, the animal rights person may be turning on him. She is very upset about the EO allowing murder of hibernating bears and their cubs.

[hamsterjill]

41. The ones I know all have some underlying meanness.

They don't let it show all the time, but it's there if you look closely. They're all ill-informed and selectively ignorant, too.

[Nonhlanhla]

42. My neighbors

I know they voted for Trump, but they're pretty decent people. Not much education (the wife has none beyond high school, the husband I think has a college degree - and he's the actual Republican of the two, she just follows him). White, middle class, Catholic. We don't talk politics. I'm friends with the wife on FB, mostly for neighborhood and school related stuff, so she must be aware of my political leanings, but we've never discussed it. I also don't plan to. We probably won't ever be close friends, but we get along.

[retrowire]

43. My next door neighbor is a great neighbor

I only know of their Trump alignment because of noticing a "Hispanics for Trump" sign hanging in their garage one day.

Other than that, we've never discussed politics. They surprised us with Christmas cookies at our doorstep last year and they are openly communicable about modifying foliage along our property line, asking permission and such.

Good neighbors. What can I say?