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babylonsister

(171,050 posts)
Sat May 13, 2017, 11:06 AM May 2017

Hidden Clues In The Trump-Comey Drama: It's Worse Than You Think

https://www.forbes.com/sites/melikkaylan/2017/05/11/hidden-clues-in-the-trump-comey-drama-its-worse-than-you-think/#51526202dfda

May 11, 2017 @ 05:04 PM 87,733
Hidden Clues In The Trump-Comey Drama: It's Worse Than You Think

Melik Kaylan

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In short, Trump is getting expert guidance. One can continue disbelieving one's eyes because the whole notion seems so preposterous. Until, it's a fait accompli. But surely, one might think, nothing like this can be happening to the indomitably democratic United States. This isn't Venezuela or Turkey, after all. True enough. The audacious scenario may yet be foiled. The American system is likely too transparent and too sensitive to public oversight. But just because such a plot might be foiled doesn't mean it's not happening. Consider one indelible detail: Trump recieves Lavrov publicly at the height of the outcry, the two of them laughing, backslapping, making a lurid display of triumph. Classic Putinist Theater. Commit every outrage openly but distort the optics so the public just can't believe what it sees. Rub their noses in it but continue to obfuscate. Hence the 'little green men' of the Crimea invasion, the 'popular uprising' in Ukraine's Donbass, the 'accidental' shoot-down of civilian airliner MH-17, the thinly disguised cyber-assaults on Western elections. You're witnessing a particularly distinctive KGB psy-ops technique infused with that tell-tale element of sadism. Attack, then laugh in their faces. We're talking about a kind of psychological fingerprint, a style, emanating out of a specific center of power.

Still incredulous? We will soon know from whatever legal and political time-delay fuses Comey left behind. Word is leaking profusely that multiple indictment-requests from the FBI to the Justice Department will emerge soonest. It's very curious that Comey demanded fresh resources from Justice to pursue Kremlingate. He didn't have sufficient manpower? Or finances? Hard to believe. In fact, the request seems so odd that I fully believe he did indeed make the request. Because it tells a story. Comey likely wanted to lay a trail. He passed the buck to the Justice Department so that no one could accuse him of inaction, the kind of inaction that Trumpsters wanted. He had waited long enough. He had prepared the groundwork. Now he needed to make it clear where the obstacle lay: not with him but with the Attorney General's office. They, in turn, are now backtracking on their role in firing Comey, at least Rod Rosentein is. He denies pushing for Comey's resignation despite the evidence of his letter. He blames Trump. Trump takes credit. He's the strong leader amid the chaos he created.

All of which may indicate that the American system is healthy and transparent and working fine. Or that the plan to deadlock the gears is well under way.

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Hidden Clues In The Trump-Comey Drama: It's Worse Than You Think (Original Post) babylonsister May 2017 OP
No patriot will stand by and let this pass. Eliot Rosewater May 2017 #1
...if the citizenry gets involved it will be like former Yugoslavia on steroids. roamer65 May 2017 #5
Too many people still stand behind Trump to let the citizens resolve this jmowreader May 2017 #8
Trump supporters want to punish the rest of us moochers and libtards. Dustlawyer May 2017 #15
K & R ...... nt Wounded Bear May 2017 #2
I think it's both...nt 2naSalit May 2017 #3
K&R Solly Mack May 2017 #4
..."infused with that tell-tale element of sadism." Spot on. Hekate May 2017 #6
Ed Rollins. SleeplessinSoCal May 2017 #7
Well, I just Google Rollins to see what he's been up to. He's a Trumper. Honeycombe8 May 2017 #12
The marriage of corrupt power and fascist propaganda with a huge dose of mind control psychology. L. Coyote May 2017 #9
Alaska back to Russia? Kentonio May 2017 #17
+1 uponit7771 May 2017 #10
K&R!!!!!! burrowowl May 2017 #11
I think we need to be careful about Trump, hear me out. cstanleytech May 2017 #13
I don't know if I buy that as a Comey plan. Honeycombe8 May 2017 #14
Some good points in these comments ewagner May 2017 #16
Yes, yes, yes, let's win the midterms !!!! JayhawkSD May 2017 #18
hey angel823 May 2017 #19
strange angel823 May 2017 #20

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
1. No patriot will stand by and let this pass.
Sat May 13, 2017, 11:12 AM
May 2017


Adam Schiff is right now on Maher admitting he and his fellow dems are too nice, they better stop that shit because they dont want the citizens resolving this, that would be, as dumbshit in the Oval Office puts it

baaaaaaaaaaaaad

jmowreader

(50,552 posts)
8. Too many people still stand behind Trump to let the citizens resolve this
Sat May 13, 2017, 02:17 PM
May 2017

As much as I'd enjoy installing a few guillotines along Constitution Avenue and sending each and every elected Republican in America down to dogcatcher level to them just to make sure we got 'em all, a few issues prevail:

First, I don't speak French. If you're gonna uphold the traditions of the French Revolution, certain niceties must be observed.

Second, there are millions of people who just LOVE them some Trump. They wouldn't care if they, themselves, lost everything they had...just so long as we get rid of abortion and birth control so a woman has to have a baby every time she has sex. After all, they have a baby every time they have sex and it hasn't hurt them any.

And third, all of Trump's most fervent fans have their own arms rooms. And they'd probably take offense at our guillotining their boy.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
15. Trump supporters want to punish the rest of us moochers and libtards.
Sat May 13, 2017, 11:37 PM
May 2017

They have been heavily steeped in propaganda from RW media that has had them angry and afraid for a long time. When there is a big story in the news, Fox will be talking about Hillary's emails, just like now. They have been talking about whether the new FBI Director will re-open Hillary's email investigation, not what Trump has done and how it is illegal.

They will not "get it" when Trump finally does gets impeached, they will never agree.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,107 posts)
7. Ed Rollins.
Sat May 13, 2017, 02:12 PM
May 2017

Study Ed Rollins. He us the quintessential post Wstergate Republican. He doesn't care about anything but tax cuts and deregulation. Said so on Charlie Rose much to the chagrin of the editor of the Financial Times seated opposite him.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
12. Well, I just Google Rollins to see what he's been up to. He's a Trumper.
Sat May 13, 2017, 11:05 PM
May 2017

So he's going to defend Trump, no matter what. He was Chairman of a Trump SuperPac. So he's in with Trump up to his neck. He no doubt knew what Trump was like beforehand.

I'd seen Rollins as a pundit on shows in years past. I didn't peg him as an extremist or alt-right person, so I'm surprised. But there you are. He's a Trumper.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
9. The marriage of corrupt power and fascist propaganda with a huge dose of mind control psychology.
Sat May 13, 2017, 08:18 PM
May 2017

And an endless supply of dark money to throw at the corruption of politicians and media personalities.

Get ready for an attempt to break up the United States and sell it off to the lowest crony bidder.

cstanleytech

(26,280 posts)
13. I think we need to be careful about Trump, hear me out.
Sat May 13, 2017, 11:08 PM
May 2017

Right now he is only the President with limited powers and unless we can get the Repugnants on board to impeach he will be the President for the next 4 years right?
Now we want him out, its unlikely to happen so to stop him what we need to do barring an impeachment is to take Congress back and or force the Repugnants that are in it to back the fuck off or they will get thrown out of office.
With that we can atleast blunt his ability to fuck up to much and thats what we really need and its the only real solution at this point short of impeaching him which isnt likely as I said.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
14. I don't know if I buy that as a Comey plan.
Sat May 13, 2017, 11:17 PM
May 2017

That Comey intentionally set things up so that people would see where the problem is: the AG's office. I don't know much about Comey, but he seems like a straight shooter who just does his job and tries to manage the mines in the field. I don't see him planning this and that, for fear he'd get blamed for not completing the investigation down the road, so he asks for $$ knowing that the W H will get wind of it, and the AG's office will step in and prevent that.

Comey's job was supposed to be assured, both by normal practice in our country (a tenured Director, free from political influence), and personally by Trump (but surely Comey noticed that prosecutor who got fired after Trump personally asked him to stay on). Comey seemed blind sided by getting fired, and the way in which it was done.

ewagner

(18,964 posts)
16. Some good points in these comments
Sun May 14, 2017, 10:07 AM
May 2017

1. Impeachment is unlikely. Too many Repubs in congress and senate. They owe their positions (and perhaps their personal fortunes) to the Republican Party and can't back out without political and personal financial ruin.

2. The Trumpsters will never passively accept any attempt at impeachment or revolutionary style removal of Trump from Office...they ARE ARMED TO THE TEETH...and are anxious to use force on "libtards", who are defined to mean "anybody that doesn't like trump".

3. The midterms are a reasonable road to stopping or slowing down Trump and his ruination of America. Maybe we could use the Repubs favorite tactics on them like they used on Obama...obstruction and constant investigations of every rumor or the slightests infraction we could find.

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
18. Yes, yes, yes, let's win the midterms !!!!
Sun May 14, 2017, 10:55 AM
May 2017

Like we did in 2006. What a victory. We were hoping to win the House and we won the Senate too!!! Victory was ours. We were going to stop the war in Iraq. We were going to roll back the Bush tax cuts. We were going to change the world.

Instead of stopping the war in Iraq we got "the Surge." We got extension after extension of the Bush tax cuts. We got renewal of the Patriot act. We got the Military Commissions Act. We got immunization of the telecoms.

Do you think it will be any different if we win the house in 2018? I don't.

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