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Trump loves to look at running a country like running a business. Well if this were almost any business and Trump were the CEO the board of directors would have long ago fired him.
This also shows how the powers of the office of President also need to be reigned in IMHO. At the very least fine tuned.
femmocrat
(28,394 posts)I think the best bet is to try to get him to resign. We need some republicans to step up and do their patriotic duty for that. (Fat chance!)
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)MedusaX
(1,129 posts)Cannot afford to..
unless he chooses to go strait to a country with no extradition
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)Someone like Trump should never get near the oval office in the first place. If it was easier to get rid of a President Republicans would have removed Obama and Hillary wouldn't have lasted 100 days in office if she had gotten there.
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)No-one should have the power to arbitrarily pardon anyone they please, and no-one should be practically immune to law enforcement charges. It should also be impossible for anyone to launch a first strike nuclear attack solo, or indeed to carry out military action. You don't need full congressional approval, but at least the heads of the relevant committees should have to sign off to ensure a madman can't kill people for no reason.
SticksnStones
(2,108 posts)I don't think I'd sign on to that.
We need fairer elections, and laws requiring releasing taxes once a candidate.
A country needs a clear, definitive leader...and an election process that prevents electing a madman in the first place.
And CITIZENS UNITED must be overturned. Take the dark money out of politics!!
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)It's about having reasonable and sensible limitations on the power provided to any one person. Most other countries have those checks and balances, as they recognize that the amount of responsibility and trust it places in an individual is too high.
That should be obvious to us too now. We're in a situation where a deeply disturbed and possibly mentally unbalanced liar is in the Oval Office. He's being investigated for serious crimes along with many of his associates, and if he chooses not only can he pardon them at will, but he could also launch either a conventional or even nuclear strike to distract attention and there is absolutely nothing you, I or anyone else can do about it. That's ridiculous.
SticksnStones
(2,108 posts)Changing the constitution to prevent someone like Trump isn't the answer, IMO.
Preventing a madman from getting into the WH in the first place is the flaw in the system.
Addressing those procedural weaknesses through clearer regulations on candidates' financial disclosures, an elimination of dark money and a tighter, FEDERAL LEVEL set of standards for voting integrity would go a long way to prevent this from happening again.
I push back strongly on the notion that the problem in the Trump fiasco is that our Constitution is fatally flawed in allowing the Presidency too much power.
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)It worked fine for a long time, but times change. Tweaking it to keep it relevant to the age we actually live in doesn't disrespect it's many strengths.
Jake Stern
(3,145 posts)Republicans would love that because it means that all those low level, non-violent drug offenders about to be sent upriver for decades or even life by Sessions and his legal goons cannot be freed by a compassionate president like our previous one.
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)Who wouldn't get to walk away scot free from their crimes..
Jake Stern
(3,145 posts)Even if congressional oversight were in place the situation as it stands right now they'd still walk free.
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)John1956PA
(2,654 posts)Nixon would have hung on if the Democrats had not controlled both houses of congress.
no_hypocrisy
(46,088 posts)If it were easier to remove a president, it would become the priority of a republican House with regard to a democratic president. Not just making that president one term, but to humiliate him-
/her to an impeachment hearing.
As it is, they are generally working toward impeachment on Day1.
dawg
(10,624 posts)Republican voters, by and large, approve of Trump. Until this changes, nothing will be done.
JHB
(37,159 posts)...and consider that if there were "better tools" to remove presidents, the Republicans would have certainly employed them against Bill Clinton and Barack Obama. And would have broken out that toolbox on Day 1 of a Hillary Clinton presidency.
The problem is that one of our major political parties has lost its collective mind.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)Tough call to make it easy to remove him.
Win elections...they have huge consequences.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)trump can never gain office again. All candidates should have to release their tax returns by law. If they've ever been sanctioned for money laundering, they are automatically disqualified from running for President. Start there.
Jake Stern
(3,145 posts)Be careful what you wish for. . . . . . . .