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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,839 posts)
Sun May 14, 2017, 03:14 PM May 2017

Employers to drop 7 million people from healthcare insurance under AHCA

Many folks I’ve talked to recently have admitted they’re not worried about healthcare because they get their healthcare through their employer. They don’t think it will affect them and as long as it’s not affecting them, it’s not an issue.

According to the Congressional Budget Office (CBO), employers will drop 2 million people from their healthcare coverage in less than 4 years under the AHCA. The estimated number of people dropped grows to 7 million by 2026.

Here’s why and how.

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What many don’t know under the new Trump/Ryan AHCA proposal is that the bill repeals the employer mandate that requires businesses with over 50 employees to offer affordable/minimum value medical coverage to their full-time employees and their dependents up to age 26.

While this is unlikely to affect businesses who need to compete to attract top talent, it is more likely to affect businesses where labor has commoditized and businesses don’t need to offer healthcare to attract workers. Jobs like retail jobs, call centers, fast food, or other low-skill businesses. Just as businesses have driven down wages, some are likely to cut healthcare.

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/5/14/1661129/-Employers-to-drop-7-million-people-from-healthcare-insurance-under-AHCA

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Employers to drop 7 million people from healthcare insurance under AHCA (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2017 OP
This reality points out the blunder the Ds made in promoting the benefits of stopbush May 2017 #1
Some of us did try to talk about those things, but voters just tuned it out. dawg May 2017 #3
Just to point out. To use the marketplace, you have to have a job OKNancy May 2017 #4
Do not forget how we got here. Wellstone ruled May 2017 #2

stopbush

(24,393 posts)
1. This reality points out the blunder the Ds made in promoting the benefits of
Sun May 14, 2017, 03:50 PM
May 2017

Obamacare.

By concentrating almost exclusively on the ACA providing insurance to millions who didn't have insurance, they ignored the much wider effects the ACA had on the insurance policies being offered through employers. This allowed the Rs to characterize the ACA as benefiting only those lazy "takers" who didn't want to work. Worse, they characterized it as something being taken away from the employed, rather than as an add-on to insurance coverage in general.

The wiser move would have been to talk about how the ACA forced employer-provided insurance to cover more basic needs, to get rid of caps on services, to limit the % of premiums insurers could keep as profit, to allow kids to stay on their parents' policies, etc. The Ds should have talked about the adding of millions to Medicaid only as a side benefit that affected a small % of Americans.

That is why so many people are shocked that their employer-provided insurance is going to get worse under the AHCA. They had no idea that they themselves were direct beneficiaries of the positive aspects of Obamacare. So, they voted for tRump...and against their own interest.

At their core, the majority of Americans are selfish assholes. They couldn't care less if other Americans don't have things like healthcare. As long as #1 is taken care of, they're happy.

dawg

(10,622 posts)
3. Some of us did try to talk about those things, but voters just tuned it out.
Sun May 14, 2017, 04:10 PM
May 2017

Turns out, swing voters don't do nuance. They heard "Make America Great Again", and they just *knew* that Hillary couldn't be trusted, and that's about all the actual thinking they did.

Where we really failed was in not rallying *hard* behind our candidate just as soon as her nomination became inevitable.

All of the damning with faint praise and lesser of two evils shit *did* make a difference.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
4. Just to point out. To use the marketplace, you have to have a job
Sun May 14, 2017, 04:30 PM
May 2017

Not the Medicaid part, but the other users must make at least 12,000 a year to even be able to apply for insurance on the marketplace.
This part is really bad for some, for example part-time students in states that rejected the Medicare expansion.
It caught my daughter who went back for training in another job.

So the Republicans a doubly wrong that it is "benefiting only those lazy "takers" who didn't want to work."

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
2. Do not forget how we got here.
Sun May 14, 2017, 03:59 PM
May 2017

Employer based Health and Welfare started after World War 2 as a Employment tool and via Union Contract provisions.

Step back and look at what is happening in Washington by the GOP. Total dismantle of all and every New Deal program. It one thinks Employer Based Insurance will be around after 2020,for get about it. When Mitch McConnell and Gang get done with their so called AHCA,if you can afford Health Insurance good luck.

It is all about the Wealth Transfer from the US Treasury via the new Tax Code to the Wealthiest 400 families.

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