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DFW

(54,449 posts)
Sun May 14, 2017, 05:02 PM May 2017

If true, this is Trump's declaration of war on a place I have loved and visited for half my life

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/05/11/unprecedented-move-trump-orders-cape-cod-national-seashore-commission-and-other-federal-advisory-groups-suspend-meetings/yYoM80Mni5cQtleYBOQ7eO/story.html?event=event25

This reminds me of one of the ending scenes of the original "Wall Street" movie, where Charlie Sheen's character asks Gordon Gekko why he wants to wreck the company his father works for. Gekko snarls back, "because it's wreckable!"

I have made the trek to the tip of Cape Cod, Massachusetts, every year since 1984. I love the place, the air, the water, the food, the relaxed atmosphere, the locals, pretty much everything about it.

I can't possibly imagine why Trump wants to wreck it. Actually, he probably doesn't give a rat's ass about Massachusetts. Some of his pals would probably like to do some exploratory exploitation of some sort or other, and needs the sacred National Park status bestowed by JFK weakened to the point where the place can be wrecked with no legal consequences if the pristine national seashore gets polluted. The National Parks were largely the brainchild of Teddy Roosevelt, as I recall, and so rumps pals can be sure Gorsuch and the other "strict constructionists" on the Supreme Court will allow anything they want, since National Parks are not protected by the Constitution. Yeah, shame on James Madison for not counting on the borders of the United States extending to the Pacific Ocean 63 years after the Bill of Rights was written. Besides, Massachusetts is inhabited largely by Libbruls and Gays, right? So who cares about such a state in the first place?

I can't see anything awful happening immediately, but if I see construction start on the Hyatt Regency at Long Nook Beach, I will close that happy chapter of my life and never return until the place has been torn down, and the National Seashore returned to its uncluttered state. I would feel like some fan of the city of Hiroshima must have felt in the year 1946.
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Warpy

(111,392 posts)
1. Right, they see all that real estate and want to wall it off with ugly condos
Sun May 14, 2017, 05:10 PM
May 2017

and time shares. The whole point of the National Seashore was to keep it completely unspoiled, the dunes moving on the wind with no obstruction except tufts of grass.

There are few places like it, they've all been walled off or junked up with souvenir shops and amusement parks.

It's about the beach front real estate, not mineral or energy development.

DFW

(54,449 posts)
10. Trying to build condons and hotels on the CC National Seahore is a loser anyway
Mon May 15, 2017, 03:21 AM
May 2017

The dues are so soft and fragile that anything they build today would sink into the sand before their grand opening. They even had to spend a fortune to move the famed Truro Lighthouse back a few hundred feet because it was about to fall off the eroding dune it was on. Naturalists have already estimated that in less than half a millenium (not that Trump cares about that), a bridge will have to be built to connect Wellfleet, Truro and Provincetown to the rest of the Cape, as the land connection that now exists (Route 6) will be partially underwater by then.

Warpy

(111,392 posts)
12. Well, they'll follow the Florida program when it comes to building their
Mon May 15, 2017, 03:28 AM
May 2017

impenetrable wall of ugly buildings, using deep pilings. Besides, these real estate geniuses are in it for short term gain and don't really give a rip if the bottom two floors are under water by the turn of the next century. They'll have gotten their millions by then and all will have died in comfy beds.

All they care about is ocean front land, whether or not it's stable.

DFW

(54,449 posts)
14. Those pilings will have to be very deep indeed.
Mon May 15, 2017, 03:35 AM
May 2017

My hope would be that any such project would turn out to be too expensive to go ahead with, and be abandoned before anyone got started. The only thing that would save the Cape, if this goes ahead, would ironically be that it would prove too expensive to wreck it.

DFW

(54,449 posts)
11. No, just fuck Republican billionaires
Mon May 15, 2017, 03:24 AM
May 2017

Bill Gates isn't like that. George Soros isn't like hat. Peter Norton isn't like that.

Republicans are like that.

enough

(13,265 posts)
4. And the same with every other beloved place in the country that Trump wants
Sun May 14, 2017, 06:12 PM
May 2017

to despoil. This is truly an invading, pillaging horde. We really need to expose them for the enemies they are.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
5. Trump is very interested in running his businesses, to remove any regulation in which may
Sun May 14, 2017, 06:39 PM
May 2017

stop him from doing what he wants and when he wants. He is corrupt and his presidency shows he is willing to continue his corruption.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
8. God this infuriates me!
Sun May 14, 2017, 08:04 PM
May 2017

I spent summers there as a child and it's charm was it's natural beauty and lack of Jersey Shore-like tacky commercial ventures.

He probably wants to come in and build his disgusting, vulgar condos all along the beautiful coastline and plop down a golf-course or two. Who knows? He'll probably allow oil companies to start drilling offshore. I doubt very much the residents and property owners on the cape will ever let him touch the land without a vicious fight. I hate that bloated, orange maggot more than I have ever hated anyone in my life!

DFW

(54,449 posts)
13. The people of the Cape will fight this with every resource they have
Mon May 15, 2017, 03:31 AM
May 2017

I think even the Republican governor of Massachusetts would fight this. I don't even know where Trump thinks he can put a golf course, anyway. For a place that has been seeing its land mass steadily losing a battle against sea encroachment, and is completely settled anyway, I don't see putting a golf course in a place where the weather would only permit activity three months out of the year in the first place. It's hotel and condos in/on the dunes and oil derricks among the whale feeding grounds that frighten me.

Make no mistake, this is the American version of the Taliban blowing up the Bamian Buddhas.

spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
15. Sad to say, my mantra has become "I'm glad I'm old"
Mon May 15, 2017, 03:54 AM
May 2017

Watching the devastation of resources around me is like hearing the news of long-time friends passing.

My time is fast approaching, and I'm taking the time to smell the flowers - while we still have any.

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