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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMorning Joe says FBI close to exposing the president: 'It's a criminal issue - and Trump knows that'
TRAVIS GETTYS
15 MAY 2017 AT 07:51 ET
MSNBCs Joe Scarborough believes President Donald Trump fired FBI director James Comey because he sensed the investigation was getting close to revealing whatever criminal actions hes trying to hide.
The Morning Joe host compared the situation to the Showtime series Billions, which depicts a U.S. attorney pursuing a hedge fund billionaire named Bobby Axelrod, and he said the FBI had found strong evidence against Trump and his associates.
The FBI has started pulling that string, and they are still pulling that string where it leads is not just an election issue, it is a criminal issue and Trump knows that, Scarborough said.
John Heilemann, the co-managing editor of Bloomberg Politics and an MSNBC political analyst, agreed that Comeys firing was not an irrational action or a political miscalculation, but rather an effort to stop or slow the FBI investigation into his ties to Russia.
The reason he did this is not because hes out of his mind, Heilmann said. He did this is because, as you said Joe, I think he recognizes he looked over at the FBI and said, this guy James Comey came to the White House, I asked him, if we believe this story, asked him for his loyalty, he wouldnt give me his loyalty. Hes been investigating since last July, hes now taking daily briefings on this matter, rather than weekly, hes now asking for more prosecutors. Donald Trump knows whats at the heart of this. I dont know what that is, but he does, and hes saying this guy knows, too.
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http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/morning-joe-says-fbi-close-to-exposing-the-president-its-a-criminal-issue-and-trump-knows-that/
Horse with no Name
(33,956 posts)Shit's circling the drain as we speak.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)watching as their "crazy" tweets about FISA warrants and Grand Juries began to get confirmed.
byronius
(7,394 posts)Meanwhile, the ratchet tightens yet another notch.
spanone
(135,830 posts)RKP5637
(67,107 posts)texts for years in what NOT to do. It's amazing to watch him in action, how he F's everything up and does it in a way it all crashes in on his head, and FFS, then he stirs it up again.
forgotmylogin
(7,528 posts)Can't resist bragging about his power and swinging it around like a big dick.
America is so easily duped when information is laid low for long enough, but Benedict Don can't even manage to keep his mouth shut and let his foibles fall off the radar.
JaneQPublic
(7,113 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,905 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,683 posts)to the #1 position.
mucifer
(23,539 posts)PJMcK
(22,035 posts)Sometimes national and personal interests can coincide.
In any event, Nixon had to go. So does Trump.
SusanaMontana41
(3,233 posts)pnwmom
(108,977 posts)and decided to trust with his secrets.
The rest of the media couldn't understand how Bob and Carl could be writing the stories. Why them?
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)And no one seems to care.
Probably because most of the republicans in Congress are just as crooked.
RKP5637
(67,107 posts)Iggo
(47,552 posts)Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)Right now - save for a few daring individuals - there's PLENTY of silence to go around.
SusanaMontana41
(3,233 posts)Calling my senators.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)They are going to do all tbey can to get someone in there who CYAs and shuts down this story.
Moreover, DT is sniffing out everyone who won't at least tacitly take his loyalty oath, and he's getting rid of them.
Yeah, it makes him and the Repubs look bad, but he rode that horse all of the way from the primaries to Prez of the US. Why stop.now?
Sancho
(9,067 posts)perhaps they've been asked to withhold publication of the story, but Joe & pals can read the "rumors" as well as DUers.
They are hinting, but not saying, that they expect a criminal case. They likely have a big story ready to push out and they are teasing for now. NBC has FBI sources for sure.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)kysrsoze
(6,019 posts)I welcome it. We need it. Too many people are in a haze about this existential threat to our government and society.
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)byronius
(7,394 posts)Well, no riots in the streets quite yet. I have trouble believing that Trumplings will actually come out in force to defend their goon once the evidence hits the fan.
'That's not Daddy on that tape! That's CGIed Alec Baldwin! I kin tell!'
Oyeeesh.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Because, as usual, we the American people, have no say in the matter.
malaise
(268,967 posts)watching them earlier this morning
NewRedDawn
(790 posts)sources within the FBI.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)right now. They and the people are all we have. The Dems in Congress are doing a much better job than usual, but they are so outnumbered.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)Or hide somewhere out of the country.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Of these, only the Vatican meets trump's interior decorating needs. No wonder he's stopping there.
Afghanistan, Algeria, Andorra, Angola, Armenia, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Belarus, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Brunei, Burkina Faso, Burma, Burundi, Cambodia, Cameroon, Cape Verde, the Central African Republic, Chad, Mainland China, Comoros, Congo (Kinshasa), Congo (Brazzaville), Djibouti, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Gabon, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Indonesia, Ivory Coast, Kazakhstan, Kosovo, Kuwait, Laos, Lebanon, Libya, Macedonia, Madagascar, Maldives, Mali, Marshall Islands, Mauritania, Micronesia, Moldova, Mongolia, Montenegro, Morocco, Mozambique, Namibia, Nepal, Niger, Oman, Qatar, Russia, Rwanda, Samoa, São Tomé & Príncipe, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Serbia, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Togo, Tunisia, Uganda, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, Uzbekistan, Vanuatu, Vatican, Vietnam and Yemen.
Phoenix61
(17,003 posts)If it heads to any of those countries I would really wonder what is coming down the pike. He really likes that plane and wouldn't want it to be seized.
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)AG Schneiderman, "Pretty little plane you have there...be a shame if something happened to it (Fed. auction block)
Hestia
(3,818 posts)particular plane was parked too. Rachel reported on that a couple of months ago.
erronis
(15,241 posts)So long, beacon on the hill. Welcome to the bloodsuckers' swamp.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)with Callista Gingrich...
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)Trump has a problem.
If he doesn't flee the country, he's going to wind up in a federal prison doing very hard time.
If he DOES flee the country, he's going to get whacked by the people he owes money to.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Hestia
(3,818 posts)in the works - The (American) President is Missing (or some such). Who knew that it might actually be non-fiction
Me.
(35,454 posts)Ducks in a row and all that. I say during the long hot summer, maybe August.
byronius
(7,394 posts)Dopers_Greed
(2,640 posts)Yet Fox News is still insisting its a non-story.
i wonder if they'll start trying to smear him by showing the pictures of JoScar and Chump hobnobbing at Mar-a-Loco.
LuckyLib
(6,819 posts)but wasn't he a Trump lover?
byronius
(7,394 posts)PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)He said many times he would NOT be voting for Donald. Mika is a HUGE Warren fan, really likes Bernie and said she voted for Hillary.
I think the final straw that turned Joe was Dump insulted Mika, called her unstable and threatened them in a tweet he could 'out" their secret affair. That really pissed of Scar (he's crazy in love with Mika) and now that they're engaged, there's nothing to hide or hold back.
NewRedDawn
(790 posts)at Mar-Lago. So it was not that. Those comments were made by Trump during the campaign last year.
DownriverDem
(6,228 posts)How does that stop the investigation? All trump has done is draw more attention to russiagate and for more calls for an independent investigation. How dumb were trump voters? Are they happy now? I know the dyed in the wool ones love it, but what about the ones who were sucked in?
Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)45 has lived his entire life in chaos. It's his go to stategy for everything. Look how he ran his primary. Look at his rallies. In his mind, if he fires the FBI director, it creates chaos. If he appointments someone crazy to head the FBI it creates more chaos. Maybe he'll fire more people at the FBI this week. Or maybe he'll turn his attention to something else. But whatever he does, he does with the purpose of generating more chaos.
jazzcat23
(176 posts)chaos is the very thing that he counts on to hide his crimes. If we have a new shiny object every few hours or at least every day, we can't see what's really happening, right? Because there's SO much out there, who can keep up? Especially with less and less press access....It's not him as much as the R's in congress, who have their agenda and he will happily sign whatever they give him. He never reads any of it...easy peasy!
Except WE LOSE!
Hestia
(3,818 posts)were appointed to one aspect of the russian story and would not be distracted by the new Squirrel! coming out every hour. They are keeping their noses to the grindstone and working on their individual parts of the whole story; like they are all in this together and are working together to get the news out there, no matter which publication they work for. This all started right after the installation of Drumpf, the WH Press had a closed-door meeting after being trashed by him. The Press came to an agreement that night, way back in January.
Last night too, the reporter who broke the story of Drumpf leaking to russians, intimated that there much more to this story but journalists were asked not print the complete story at this time.
Abu Pepe
(637 posts)The FBI isn't ADD.
blue-wave
(4,352 posts)that is growing in DC circles. My gut instinct tells me we will be amazed at the depth and scope of the whole mess.
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)... After an intelligence briefing a few month's back? And now we have more information? This is bigly huge.
TNLib
(1,819 posts)nt
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,683 posts)Trump has lost Joe Scarborough, who once was a big fan.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)berksdem
(595 posts)there are a lot more rats that have yet to jump. Trump idiots will stay by his side through the entire ordeal. Sad....
IronLionZion
(45,433 posts)before Trump made headline news again with the firing. If it were anyone else, I would think they were trying to deflect our attention from something worse.
But as many experts have said, there is no brilliant strategic plan. With Trump it's often the simplest and most idiotic answer.
peggysue2
(10,828 posts)Anyone who checks out the headlines at Memeorandum will notice a shift--Ann Coulter questioning her Trumpster love, Kellyanne Cpnway secretly hating The Donald and his bizarre behavior, his money grubbing, Scarborough talking about criminal culpability, etc.
Badass news is circulating in the ether for the Trumpsters; they feel the walls closing in and are checking out the escape hatches. This will not be pretty.
TNLib
(1,819 posts)nt
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)The story the Repubs (Lindsay Graham) are saying is that it's a counter-intelligence investigation, not criminal.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,683 posts)What would Trump's motive have been for colluding with the Russians? Their hacking can't have guaranteed he'd win the election. The Russians' motive was to disrupt the process and discredit Hillary so as to weaken her administration; they, and the Trump campaign as well, thought she was going to win. Assuming the collusion claim is true, why were the Russians so easily able to co-opt Trump? Like Deep Throat told Bob Woodward: Follow the money. The criminal part of the whole thing is likely to involve money laundering and tax evasion. Stay tuned.
Doitnow
(1,103 posts)owes in return for getting sanctions lifted so Tillerson could get to all that oil they keep talking about.
NewRedDawn
(790 posts)Keep following the money . There lies the answer.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)riversedge
(70,204 posts)iluvtennis
(19,852 posts)...haven't heard most pundits want to do thia. Most of them still try to normalize this thing they call a presiddent.
..Dumpty is NOT MY PRESIDENT, HILLARY WON
N_E_1 for Tennis
(9,721 posts)It go through reasons why 45 thinks he can get away with everything. Also explains most of his picks to fill the different positions in his admin.
bucolic_frolic
(43,146 posts)just asking
gordianot
(15,237 posts)sellitman
(11,606 posts)Fuck him. I never watch him. Never will.
He is a murderer.