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Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
Mon May 15, 2017, 10:34 AM May 2017

It is all about Dark Money from Russia. All the GOP is in it.

Probably even the RNC. This is what Citizens United opened the door to.

You can bet your ass Ryan and McConnell benefitted as well. They are going to fight this coming to light as hard as they can. Their careers and their party are at stake.

We must win in 2018.

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Blue Meany

(1,947 posts)
4. I agree that Citizens United pretty much ended democracy, but I don't think its
Mon May 15, 2017, 10:52 AM
May 2017

just dark money from Russia. There's probably money from Israel, Saudi Arabia and China, too. And much of it will never be detected. But I don't think that the entire GOP is in on it--that's too big a conspiracy and there are a few who wouldn't go along with it. At the same time, there are probably Democrats who have benefited from the foreign gravy train. The real problem, though, is that money from anywhere is allowed to have such influence on elections. I doesn't make feel better to think that the name of the donor is Koch rather than Putin. Oligarchs aren't really American, anyway, they are globalists.

tenorly

(2,037 posts)
14. It's their real religion.
Mon May 15, 2017, 01:00 PM
May 2017

A GOP politician is probably the most un-Christian individual on God's green Earth.

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
6. Even if we clean up in 2018...
Mon May 15, 2017, 11:17 AM
May 2017

...how do we know that the newly elected Dems won't pull an Eric Holder and "let bygones be bygones".

All of these criminals need to locked away ASAP.

Botany

(70,447 posts)
7. Both McConnell and Ryan were involved with this Russian/Turmp coup too.
Mon May 15, 2017, 11:38 AM
May 2017

Both McConnell and Ryan were involved with this Russian/Turmp coup too.

How did McConnell know if he waited until after the election he would have
somebody else to vote for for SCOTUS?


https://www.democraticunderground.com/10028671176 (NY Times Article)

Paul Ryan & Republican Establishment Used Hacked Info From Russia Against Democrats:

Let's not forget that a super PAC tied to Paul Ryan used material provided by Russia's hacking of the DNC and DCCC.

It was known that Russia had stolen material from the DNC and DCCC and a Paul Ryan Super PAC and as well as other Republican groups used it.

It wasn't just Hillary Clinton being attacked. It wasn't just Trump benefiting. There's potentially more collusion than just that between Trump's team and Russia.

C Moon

(12,208 posts)
13. Sick people. Traitors. I wish we could lay down the law and make them all do their time.
Mon May 15, 2017, 12:28 PM
May 2017

We always knew they were hiding behind the U.S. flag for their own benefit; sending our men and women to lose life and limb for their bank accounts; nearly sending us into another Great Depression; trying to take away our security nets; and now they have—without a doubt—shown their TRUE colors: the Russian red, white and blue.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,164 posts)
15. Bernie and Warren are way too softball on them
Mon May 15, 2017, 01:47 PM
May 2017

And those are the two most regarded as radical in Washington. Especially by the corporate news shows.

The thing is that many different right wingers, from politicians to 'news' hosts, strike low all the time. And what is astonishing is that most of their low blows are based on outright lies. faux scandals. Whereas those on the left actually have facts on their side, and decades of history of Republican destruction to draw upon, if they decided to go that route. The route of the Rude Pundit, or even Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert minus the humor.

I think many on the left that don't bother voting think that Dems are weaklings and have no spine, and that only is solidified when they see how the GOP, and especially Trump, are fearless in their hyperbole, sometimes abusive, sexist, racist hyperbole where they even have to sometimes retract (nudge nudge wink wink) what they had said. The whole "at least he says whatever he wants and doesn't worry about offending anyone" is intoxicating.

I wish we'd have a leader that would take the risk of offending a few people on the left's fragile PC sensitivities, even losing some of them, by calling out the Republicans in much stronger language. How they are robbing and looting and have highjacked the system for decades long now, and they are on the brink of turning the USA into a version of modern Russia, an institutionalized mafia state.

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
16. Yes, there's a lot of information here --
Tue May 16, 2017, 12:33 AM
May 2017

in this Twitter thread




and I was thrilled to read this, from Louise Mensch, in which she reveals that her sources say RICO charges are being considered against the whole GOP. But there's a lot of other great info in it too --

Several separate sources with links to the intelligence communities of more than one nation, and with links within the US state and federal justice systems, have outlined evidence that exists against multiple men in the line of succession to the US Presidency, as it relates to Russia’s hack on America. I can also exclusively report a RICO case is being considered against the Republican party for laundering Russian money.

I know full well that many people don't like or trust or believe Mensch, consider her tabloid gossip (not even as good as "tabloid journalism," but -- I definitely like to read her and pass it along. Maybe it's true, maybe not. Time will tell. That's how I take it. And enjoy the hell out of it in the meantime.

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