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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
Mon May 15, 2017, 10:50 AM May 2017

They hate the US government, and they're multiplying: the terrifying rise of 'sovereign citizens'

They hate the US government, and they're multiplying: the terrifying rise of 'sovereign citizens'
While US counter-terrorism efforts remain locked on Islamist extremism, the growing threat from homegrown, rightwing extremists is even more pressing
J Oliver Conroy Monday 15 May 2017 06.00 EDT

On 20 May 2010, a police officer pulled over a white Ohio minivan on Interstate 40, near West Memphis, Arkansas. Unbeknown to officer Bill Evans, the occupants of the car, Jerry Kane Jr, and his teenage son, Joseph Kane, were self-described “sovereign citizens”: members of a growing domestic extremist movement whose adherents reject the authority of federal, state and local law.

Kane, who traveled the country giving instructional seminars on debt evasion, had been posing as a pastor. Religious literature was laid out conspicuously for anyone who might peer into the van, and, when Evans ran the van’s plates, they came back registered to the House of God’s Prayer, an Ohio church. Also in the van, though Evans did not know it, were weapons Kane had bought at a Nevada gun show only days earlier.

Kane had been in a series of run-ins with law enforcement. After the most recent incident, a month earlier, he had decided that the next time a law enforcement officer bothered him would be the last.

Another officer patrolling nearby, sergeant Brandon Paudert, began to wonder why Evans was taking so long on a routine traffic stop. When he pulled up at the scene, he saw Evans and Kane speaking on the side of the highway. Evans handed him some puzzling paperwork that Kane had provided when asked for identification – vaguely official-looking documents filled with cryptic language. He examined the papers while Evans prepared to frisk Kane.

Suddenly, Jerry Kane turned and tackled Evans, knocking him down into a ditch. The younger Kane vaulted from the passenger side of the minivan and opened fire with an AK-47. Evans, an experienced officer who also served on the Swat team, was fatally wounded before he even drew his weapon. Paudert was struck down moments later while returning fire.

As the two officers bled out on the side of the highway, the Kanes jumped back in their van and sped off. A FedEx trucker who witnessed the shooting called 911.

The Kanes’ ideological beliefs – which the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) believes are shared by “well into the tens of thousands” of Americans – put them under the broad umbrella of the patriot movement, a spectrum of groups who believe the US government has become a totalitarian and repressive force.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/15/sovereign-citizens-rightwing-terrorism-hate-us-government
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They hate the US government, and they're multiplying: the terrifying rise of 'sovereign citizens' (Original Post) workinclasszero May 2017 OP
They are also quite experienced at getting TheDebbieDee May 2017 #1
You can go on youtube to see these people in action workinclasszero May 2017 #2
I believe that it's time to break up this "Un-united States. maveric May 2017 #3
In the Southwest we Wellstone ruled May 2017 #4
As they break the law, we need to put them away in 'sovereign prisons' n/t SFnomad May 2017 #5
 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
1. They are also quite experienced at getting
Mon May 15, 2017, 11:05 AM
May 2017

fraudulent refunds totaling billions of $ over the last 2 decades. The IRS figured out the loopholes these nuts were using (religiously) to get the fraudulent refunds a few years ago but they are on the lookout for NEW ways that people are scamming the system...

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
2. You can go on youtube to see these people in action
Mon May 15, 2017, 11:10 AM
May 2017

Crazy stuff but homegrown right wing terrorism gets a pass under our current republican overlords.

maveric

(16,445 posts)
3. I believe that it's time to break up this "Un-united States.
Mon May 15, 2017, 11:28 AM
May 2017

Too many differences that won't ever be rectified.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
4. In the Southwest we
Mon May 15, 2017, 11:50 AM
May 2017

see this Suckers Daily. Couple of tells,hand painted License Plates,Gazden Flag decals on their Beaters with Heaters,same flag flying over a single wide tucked between the sage and rocks. Ball caps with the 3%er logo,NRA badge on their jackets. Most will be packing a side arm or two.

Listen and you might hear those dueling Banjo's.

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