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Alan Dershowitz said it's the most serious charge ever against a sitting president. nt (Original Post) Ilsa May 2017 OP
Well trump is into the superlatives Dem2 May 2017 #1
Great, another very informative thread jeanmarc May 2017 #2
I thought everyone was talking about dt revealing Ilsa May 2017 #8
only because the info is from Mossad DURHAM D May 2017 #3
Dersh is going ballistic C_U_L8R May 2017 #4
Message deleted by DU the Administrators chelsea0011 May 2017 #5
Impeachment is a political act, not a criminal process. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2017 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author The Velveteen Ocelot May 2017 #6
But he says it's not impeachable, which IMO is bullshit. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2017 #6
Invoke the 25th. NT Ilsa May 2017 #9
here's the funny part... flotsam May 2017 #11
Now that's going to be delicious. Ilsa May 2017 #12

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
8. I thought everyone was talking about dt revealing
Mon May 15, 2017, 07:42 PM
May 2017

Highly classified intel from our allies. Unless an asteroid is due to hit next week, this seems to be the most important business of the day. Sorry to have misled you. My apologies.

C_U_L8R

(45,002 posts)
4. Dersh is going ballistic
Mon May 15, 2017, 07:39 PM
May 2017

I always thought he was a fair weather Republican... Trump really pissed him off this time.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,692 posts)
10. Impeachment is a political act, not a criminal process.
Mon May 15, 2017, 07:55 PM
May 2017

"High crimes and misdemeanors" can mean pretty much anything Congress wants it to mean, including lying about a blow job.

lf said impeachment should be reserved for those who "misbehave". Cotesworth Pinkney said, It should be reserved "...for those who behave amiss, or betray their public trust." As can be seen from all these references to The very difficult case of impeaching someone in the House of Representatives and removing that person in the Senate by a vote of two-thirds majority in the Senate was meant to be the check to balance against efforts to easily remove people from office for minor reasons that could easily be determined by the standard of "high crimes and misdemeanors". It was George Mason who offered up the term "high crimes and misdemeanors" as one of the criteria to remove public officials who abuse their office. Their original intentions can be gleaned by the phrases and words that were proposed before, such as "high misdemeanor", "maladministration", or "other crime". Edmund Randothe term "high crimes and misdemeanors", there is no concrete definition for the term, except to allow people to remove an official for office for subjective reasons entirely.

Alexander Hamilton said, "...those offences which proceed from the misconduct of public men, or, in other words, from the abuse or violation of some public trust. They are of a nature which may with peculiar propriety be denominated political, as they relate chiefly to injuries done immediately to the society itself."[5]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_crimes_and_misdemeanors

Response to Ilsa (Original post)

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,692 posts)
6. But he says it's not impeachable, which IMO is bullshit.
Mon May 15, 2017, 07:41 PM
May 2017

Impeachment is a political act, not a criminal proceeding. Even if disclosing this info was not technically criminal because presidents can declassify anything, how is this not impeachable while Clinton's blowjobs* were? Dershowitz is kind of goofy. How is disclosing extremely sensitive intelligence acquired from an ally to a hostile government not some kind of high crime or misdemeanor?

*(Yes, I know Bill's impeachment was claimed to be based on perjury, but perjury unrelated to the presidency and of a kind that wouldn't even get a party in trouble in a normal court case. People lie in depositions all the time and don't get prosecuted)

flotsam

(3,268 posts)
11. here's the funny part...
Mon May 15, 2017, 08:23 PM
May 2017

last week Miss Piggy, White House spokesmanette, quoted him as an "eminent legal scholar" when he stated the president was within his rights to fire Comey...

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
12. Now that's going to be delicious.
Mon May 15, 2017, 08:36 PM
May 2017

I wonder how much venom she'll spew at Dershowitz now? Maybe accuse him of "atrocities"?

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