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Pelosi did NOT say no impeachment- Please watch video: (Original Post) Madam45for2923 May 2017 OP
Again Pelosi did not say NO impeachment Madam45for2923 May 2017 #1
Disinformation/misinformation specialists are everywhere. Eyeball_Kid May 2017 #45
What can we do when an OP won't correct a title? Madam45for2923 May 2017 #2
I'd say don't worry about it.. Soon it will be buried.. pangaia May 2017 #32
Divisive to not change the title Madam45for2923 May 2017 #3
Indeed. L. Coyote May 2017 #29
Then I guess it's going according to plan. JTFrog May 2017 #35
Someone said that Pelosi was awesome at the town-hall & instead that OP trying to discredit her! Madam45for2923 May 2017 #39
Yes. It's beyond sad. JTFrog May 2017 #40
Amen. murielm99 May 2017 #47
People please watch the video: Madam45for2923 May 2017 #4
I watched it live last night. sheshe2 May 2017 #30
Plus she was at a townhall while the story was developing Madam45for2923 May 2017 #31
Correct again. sheshe2 May 2017 #36
Awesome! Instead of discussing that people trying to discredit her! Madam45for2923 May 2017 #38
Plus she was at a townhall when all this info came out Madam45for2923 May 2017 #5
KnR! Cha May 2017 #6
Thank you Cha! Madam45for2923 May 2017 #7
Mahalo to you, Madam! Cha May 2017 #52
Thank you for bringing this up. What Pelosi said was underthematrix May 2017 #8
Plus this was last night when she was at a townhall- story developing Madam45for2923 May 2017 #9
That's what I heard, as well. hamsterjill May 2017 #41
Thank you! You are correct! I hope the untrue OP/thread will be corrected or hidden. skylucy May 2017 #10
They seem to want to stir division - not a real discussion- Madam45for2923 May 2017 #12
That is exactly the point. Thanks Madam still_one May 2017 #27
Yeah. I think you're right. skylucy May 2017 #49
I'm pretty sure that was the point. Bleacher Creature May 2017 #11
and after people tell them time & time again- they don't care- Madam45for2923 May 2017 #13
For more than 9 hours! Bleacher Creature May 2017 #18
Asking people to harass her over a fake take on her words. Madam45for2923 May 2017 #20
It can be helpful as it shows who the disruptors are DURHAM D May 2017 #14
Yes, and why is anyone recommending with that misleading title and righteous rant? Madam45for2923 May 2017 #16
Bernie.... you need to change your OP. It was false. scheming daemons May 2017 #15
Do people wish us -DEMS- well? or are they trying to discredit DEM figures by twisting Madam45for2923 May 2017 #17
In some people, irrational hatred of Hillary overcomes any decency, logic or common sense. JTFrog May 2017 #28
You have to look at last year, to see what is being posted this year. William769 May 2017 #19
Thank you. FAKE BS OP titles sucks. L. Coyote May 2017 #21
K&R mcar May 2017 #22
I watched the video before responding to the other op. NCTraveler May 2017 #23
It's ridiculous that we have to fight for *facts* brer cat May 2017 #24
Yep! Am trying to make that attempt FAIL! Make so obvious cannot try next time. Madam45for2923 May 2017 #37
kick for visibility L. Coyote May 2017 #25
K & R ......agreed... Wounded Bear May 2017 #26
K&R sheshe2 May 2017 #33
Pelosi reads political winds better than anyone bucolic_frolic May 2017 #34
Misleading OPs like that lead to Republican victories. yardwork May 2017 #42
Sunshine is the best disinfectant. After last year we need lots of both! Madam45for2923 May 2017 #44
You're Right blue-wave May 2017 #43
I don't wonder what's up with that. Propaganda against the Dem party has been here for years. bettyellen May 2017 #46
Thank you for posting this, there seems to be a dedicated contingent Ninsianna May 2017 #48
k&r Starry Messenger May 2017 #50
I heard her this morning. Pelosi said she wanted the facts. I agree. In addition, while riversedge May 2017 #51

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
45. Disinformation/misinformation specialists are everywhere.
Tue May 16, 2017, 11:21 AM
May 2017

On its face, it looks like the Pelosi "no impeachment" post was intentionally misleading.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
35. Then I guess it's going according to plan.
Tue May 16, 2017, 10:35 AM
May 2017

Pretty sick of it these ploys myself.

I think the only way this place could become a functioning community, instead of farming an ocean of slime and fake news being thrown at Democrats, is for the admin to be a little more active and get rid of that stupid jury system. Lord of the Flies mob rule never ends well.

I don't think they will ever return back to the sane system. It's just that it's getting really hard to hear ourselves over all the fucking noise in here.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
8. Thank you for bringing this up. What Pelosi said was
Tue May 16, 2017, 09:26 AM
May 2017

both subtle and powerful. She was saying impeachment must be based on facts. The implication was congressional especially senate is in the process of collecting those facts.

That's what I heard.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
41. That's what I heard, as well.
Tue May 16, 2017, 10:44 AM
May 2017

In fact, I thought she was much stronger on this part of the town hall than in other areas. I didn't think it was one of her best nights, but she did not equivocate on this matter. She was strong here.

 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
20. Asking people to harass her over a fake take on her words.
Tue May 16, 2017, 09:45 AM
May 2017

Trying to discredit a DEM figure over a fake take on her words.

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
14. It can be helpful as it shows who the disruptors are
Tue May 16, 2017, 09:36 AM
May 2017

among us. The number of longtime members is particularly interesting.

 

scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
15. Bernie.... you need to change your OP. It was false.
Tue May 16, 2017, 09:36 AM
May 2017

Having a liar in the White House is bad enough.

*WE* have to be true to the facts.

 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
17. Do people wish us -DEMS- well? or are they trying to discredit DEM figures by twisting
Tue May 16, 2017, 09:40 AM
May 2017

their words and then going on a righteous rant!

Asking us to harass one of our own over a fake take on what they said.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
28. In some people, irrational hatred of Hillary overcomes any decency, logic or common sense.
Tue May 16, 2017, 10:28 AM
May 2017

I've given up on those people completely. There is something much deeper going on that I am not qualified to deal with.

William769

(55,147 posts)
19. You have to look at last year, to see what is being posted this year.
Tue May 16, 2017, 09:45 AM
May 2017

Yep, you're going to have to read between the lines on that one.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
23. I watched the video before responding to the other op.
Tue May 16, 2017, 09:51 AM
May 2017

It's pretty clear that some simply trust what is in a subject line.

It's also clear someone is attempting to generate division among us.

brer cat

(24,565 posts)
24. It's ridiculous that we have to fight for *facts*
Tue May 16, 2017, 10:05 AM
May 2017

from both the right and left. Thank you for trying to set the record straight, but it will probably fall on deaf ears.

 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
37. Yep! Am trying to make that attempt FAIL! Make so obvious cannot try next time.
Tue May 16, 2017, 10:36 AM
May 2017

Trying to say ~ WE SEE YOU!

Wounded Bear

(58,656 posts)
26. K & R ......agreed...
Tue May 16, 2017, 10:13 AM
May 2017

while she said, in effect, "not yet," the long term answer is still open, from what I heard on the clip.

As the party leader in the House, she kind of has to avoid rampant speculation and hyperbole based on innuendo and rumor. One thing she can do is count votes, and with a Repub majority, the votes aren't there and getting overly excited can work against us.

Besides, if we impeach now we might lose one of our best issues to run on next year. That's not "keeping our powder dry," that's strategy.

bucolic_frolic

(43,161 posts)
34. Pelosi reads political winds better than anyone
Tue May 16, 2017, 10:34 AM
May 2017

You don't survive in politics for a lifetime without that skill

If the time comes, she'll be explicitly in favor

Impeachment must have legitimacy to succeed and convict

That's why Nixon resigned, and Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton weren't convicted

yardwork

(61,608 posts)
42. Misleading OPs like that lead to Republican victories.
Tue May 16, 2017, 11:04 AM
May 2017

That's probably the goal.

We've seen a lot of propaganda and misinformation posted on DU for years. It's all designed to undermine Democrats and assure that Republicans take power.

It's disgusting. Thanks for this OP. Sunshine is the best disinfectant.

blue-wave

(4,353 posts)
43. You're Right
Tue May 16, 2017, 11:13 AM
May 2017

She did not say no to impeachment. She is the person in the room that this country needs right now. She's trying to approach this logically and with reason. It is the type of approach that our country's future depends on right now and is the reasoned approach in which it was founded.

Ninsianna

(1,349 posts)
48. Thank you for posting this, there seems to be a dedicated contingent
Tue May 16, 2017, 01:52 PM
May 2017

here whose pom poms waving is not well disguised attacks against Democrats. That post you referenced and corrected was out right propaganda and Trump level lying.

riversedge

(70,218 posts)
51. I heard her this morning. Pelosi said she wanted the facts. I agree. In addition, while
Tue May 16, 2017, 05:21 PM
May 2017

impeachment is my preferred route, she is right. We really need some substance-all the facts. We are fighting the RW news, the Repugs in Congress just as a start.

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