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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHow things look today if you only watch Fox News
Sean Hannity:
The leakers in the White House are the national security threat.
The media is biased against Trump and producing fake news.
The Washington Post is always wrong and has it in for Trump.
The news focus should be on the investigation into the death of Seth Rich.
Tucker Carlson:
Hillary Clinton is trading favors for money with her new PAC.
The leaks and media attacks on POTUS are the real national security threat.
We should be building a positive relationship with Russia.
Liberals are hysterical, chicken little, boy who cried wolf, deranged over Trump.
Important to remember, they are literally operating in an alternate universe - and millions and millions of Americans live in said universe. They think we are crazy and/or evil for the way we view Trump.
Whiskeytide
(4,459 posts)... appearance and demeanor of a genuine nutjob. He use to at least make an effort to appear and sound reasonable while he spewed his crap. Now he sneers and glares at the camera - it's creepy and unsettling. He's so far off the rails now he's making Beck and the chalkboard look rational.
But I saw some of my conservative friends yesterday, and they are past ready to jettison Trump. I heard a lot of "he was never my guy" and "I wish he'd resign and let Pence take over". And this was before the Comey memo broke. So maybe ... ?
7962
(11,841 posts)Whiskeytide
(4,459 posts)... Everyone has left or been run off, it seems. Isn't he kind of the last man standing?
7962
(11,841 posts)I wouldnt be surprised to see them bring in Sheryl Atkisson
Hell, maybe even Tomi Lehren regardless of the pro choice "baggage"
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Mike Nelson
(9,942 posts)...I try to sample them, but haven't been able to recently... it's good t know what they're seeing.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)I can't really handle watching them for more than little spurts. This is what those two guys have been tweeting over the past 24 hours.
Mike Nelson
(9,942 posts)...Twitter, but don't look at it much.
Renew Deal
(81,844 posts)He's doing their bidding.
Carlson is just another guy on Fox's payroll reading a script.
elias7
(3,991 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)It's insane.
Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)But ONLY believe Fox News.
I've actually interacted with some of these people in real life. It is astounding.
LittleGirl
(8,277 posts)They out right refuse to watch anything but Faux Spews because they have been so brainwashed by them.
They change channels and see a different reality and can't handle it and change it back to Faux Spews just to return to their right wing views.
It's exhausting to be around people like that. I've un-friended a few people that I went to school with who posted that they LOVED faux spews and so glad that there is a channel for them to learn so much. ugh.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)benefits (PKA "Food Stamps" , all while attacking "takers".
certainot
(9,090 posts)Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Dustlawyer
(10,494 posts)talking about whether the new FBI director will re-open the Hillary email case. Over and over that is what the brainwashed Republicans are hearing. It is no wonder they hold different opinions on things. This propaganda must stop, it is tearing our country apart and feeding the hyper-partisanship we have that keeps us from having sane policies!
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Honestly, it is a completely separate reality.
wolfie001
(2,199 posts)....it pisses me off to no end when Norm MacDonald calls the Clintons "murderers". He seems to work it into his bits any chance he gets. He's a Canadian so maybe he should just shut his stupid face about it. That's the kind of background noise that helped to elect the lying socio-psychopath.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)covered by every major newspaper in the world, if it is bad for Repubs. Instead, they will be talking about made up Clinton murders or emails. This is one reason DT is holding in the polls w the Trumpsters. They aren't watching news, just propaganda.
spanone
(135,781 posts)democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Authoritarian drumpf redumbliCON propoganda must continually be exposed for what it is.
Ligyron
(7,615 posts)They don't like reality so Fox paints an entirely different narrative of the world for them where it's viewers are persecuted and under attack every day by "libruls", Democrats and brownish people hell bent on pushing their socialistic, atheistic views on them and their children.
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)Seems like they are the American version of TASS, or at least the GOP version.
The First Amendment guarantees a free press. It does not guarantee an alternate version of the facts. This disinformation, including the blaspheming of the true and authentic press, is an affront to our Constitution. It has to be stopped. It is a criminal syndicate whose message, at this level, cannot be tolerated. It's sad when it can be suggested, as it was last night on MSNBC, that Republicans are hesitating to impeach Trump because they don't want to offend FOX. That is SICK.
wildeyed
(11,243 posts)Trump Critics 'Like Squirrels on Crack' Um, no, that's Donald Trump
But those aren't the top stories. The top stories are all about how DNC is attempting to harness anti-Trump energy. They want their readers to be VERY AFRAID!
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Just like Fox and all the other traitors on the right. They can't wait to sell out America to a foreign dictator.
They make me puke!
rdking647
(5,113 posts)FailureToCommunicate
(14,006 posts)can't stomach much of it if any!
Just seeing Tucker "Jazz Hands" once again employed is vomit worthy, even before he opens his "mouth" to spew crap.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)The most I can handle is keeping tabs on their twitter feeds.
cubbies01
(85 posts)Many, myself included, have been (rightfully) deriding the ridiculous response of Republican congressional people. But the root cause is the massive brainwashing of a huge chunk of people that has taken place over 25 years. To me, more disturbing than the congress republican actions is the running approval rating that after all that has taken place, remains 38-40 percent. That to me is the scariest and most disturbing thing. His approval should be in low 20s but sadly 90 percent of republican voters are sticking with him. We very much underestimated the damage Propaganda the right wing employed on am radio then Fox News then internet / social media the last three decades. These people have been conditioned to accept any lie given them and worse to accept an authoritarian strong man.
VOX
(22,976 posts)N/t
Cosmocat
(14,558 posts)I've had heartburn over right wing propaganda for a quarter century now.
Still have clear memory of being at the gym in 1993, with them piping Limbaugh in over the radio. I was just out of college, and could not fathom the appeal of this gasbag grinding away about complete, hateful gibberish.
But, I saw so many people there that I liked, even respected who ate it up with spoons.
I was relatively naive about people, had this romantic notion that we would collectively make the right decision at the ballot box, but by the end of Bills term had come around to knowing how they appeal to the lowest elements of the human spirit.
Then saw how they, with the mainstream media gladly in tow, positively framed a feckless dolt as "a guy you would like to have a beer with" while negatively casting a decent, intelligent and honorable man as an "arrogant liar."
Fact is, it was horrible in the 90s, and gotten worse with time. When he came down that escalator, I told people and posted here, he was the odds on favorite to win the nomination, and while I hoped not, this country was absolutely stupid enough to make him POTUS.
GeoWilliam750
(2,521 posts)Nitram
(22,755 posts)KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)same conversation with Comey wherein he asked Comey to lay off Flynn.
Freedom of the Press is a near-absolute right, imo. The cure for bad speech is better speech, not 'banning" or "suppressing"
Nitram
(22,755 posts)But the effect Fox has had on the nation is actually worse than yelling "fire" in a crowded theater. I know it will never happen, but humor me, please, while I vent.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)than any amount of propaganda Fox News could promulgate. To my mind, they are the best proof of P.T. Barnum's nostrum that there's "a sucker born every minute."
Nitram
(22,755 posts)One more charge during the impeachment trial.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)certain cohort in this country who would be only to glad to carry out Trump's orders to attack journalists. They would do so without a second thought. And who would stop them? The constabulary are pretty much in Trump's back pocket. So his utterance of a "Will no one rid me of this damned Priest?" line is what frightens me.
Nitram
(22,755 posts)But the Fifth Estate has power and resilience. And they support each other in times of threat.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,145 posts)1. Nobody cares about Trump and Russia
2. Nobody cares about Trump's tax returns
3. Everybody wants a wall to keep the scary Mexicans away
4. Trump is a wildly successful and beloved President who wants to do so much good for the country and bad people are keeping him from doing it.
All are more or less verbatim from her mouth.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)of Congress?
If so, how does she square that circle?
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,145 posts)KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)one party to the discussion has no basic understanding of civics or how our government with its co-equal branches functions. So I applaud you for hanging in there, although I question the efficacy of your doing so.
Moostache
(9,895 posts)I was stuck in traffic yesterday and dial surfed to a right-wing/Christian radio station and for 30 minutes had to tamp down the urge to ram my car into the road divider. It is all EXACTLY the same...
No one REALLY dislikes Trump...only LEFT WING Operatives...
Everything else is FAKE NEWS...
Trump is awesome...Clinton is a crook (STILL beating on the Hillary drum for the tribe)...
Liberals HATE AMERICA (yeah, THAT canard is STILL being flown...)
And there really is no left-wing radio to counter the right-wing radio loons (not that it would matter, I guess).
VOX
(22,976 posts)How do they all get on-message so quickly and uniformly? Is there some RW-propaganda clearing house that decides on the day's talking points and transmits them to their loyal lapdogs in every sector? How? Through the fillings in their teeth?
They have it over us, in that one regard: the discipline to stick with their candidate-- but therein lies their Achilles heel. 45 has finally become a toxic asset, careening toward the inevitable 90-degree drop-off at the bluff, a la Wile E Coyote.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,391 posts)is literally like peeking behind the curtains into an alternate reality universe.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)It can be surreal - especially after watching CNN or Rachel Maddow to then flip over to see what Fox is talking about.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,391 posts)The few minutes of it that I've ever been able to stomach it, I can see how easy it might be for an unsuspecting person to get sucked into their warped and twisted worldview.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)I'm surprised Fox would run with such a blatant lie. What is most alarming are the hints that this is a time to fight the liberals and kill the offenders.
I'm calling it the Fake News Jihad. The organized and concerted propaganda reveal is how they are employing the #ComeyMemo hashtag to place their message in competition with the factual reporting revealing Trump's obstruction of justice. Can conspiracy top obstruct charges can be brought against them if a White house link is proven? Who is directing the propaganda effort? Who is the troll army general? Roger Stone and friends?
Link to tweet
progressoid
(49,933 posts)thucythucy
(8,037 posts)Saw this yesterday in my grocery store, think it was the Globe:
"Trump refuses to grant a tearful Hillary a pardon: she's going to jail!"
These people have no morals, no sense of decency. The ability to lie is their greatest talent, and sad to say there are millions of Americans who fall for it.