'Locked in battle': Times and Post in an epic race for the truth

[IronLionZion]

http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/17/media/new-york-times-washington-post-rivalry/index.html?iid=hp-toplead-dom

The Washington Post dropped a bombshell just after 5 p.m. Monday: President Trump had shared highly classified information with the Russians.

In another era, a scoop like that would have dominated the news cycle for a week or more.

But barely 24 hours later, The New York Times fired off an explosive story of its own: The FBI director had documented an attempt by the president to end an FBI investigation into his national security adviser. The Times sent two cellphone news alerts.

The Trump era has revived the rivalry between two of the country's premier newspapers.

As the administration lurches from one crisis to another, the Times and the Post keep one-upping each other.

Or as Adam Goldman, a Times reporter who previously worked for the Post, put it in a tweet on Tuesday night: The two papers are "locked in battle. And every day First Amendment gets stronger & people get real news that matters."

Make Journalism Great Again!

I subscribed to Washington Post to support these efforts because I want to see more of it. https://www.washingtonpost.com/

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[underpants]

1. Yes they have been dropping bombs left and right

Everyone in DC seems to be talking rather freely.

[wildeyed]

2. Careers will be made.

Journalistic and political. Someone will become president because of what they did now too. Probably not anyone from the GOP since they are all cowards afraid to publicly challenge their leaders. That WAS on the table, but the clock is running out on them.

[Hekate]

23. Pulitzer Prizes will be justifiably won

Great stuff

[MineralMan]

3. The media is always in a battle to break stories first.

It's how they build their audience. So, major news outlets are working hard on Trump stories and have teams of people looking for the next breaking news story. That's a good thing, and something we should encourage and support by subscribing to such news outlets.

They're all commercial enterprises and have to show a profit to stay in business. We need them, as current events demonstrate.

[lovemydogs]

4. I heartily applaud this. Very Watergate era

The times and the post were doing the same with Nixon and we got Woodward and Bernstein doing legendary work.
Journalism was great then

[BigmanPigman]

14. Yes, and that is one of the reasons that the credibility and speed of the Watergate investigation

was accomplished before the age of technology. Rivalry is a good thing sometimes.

[BumRushDaShow]

5. That's good because they seem to have difficulty doing it on teevee

with some of those gasbags denying and fabricating and equivocating and projecting and whatnot.

[IronLionZion]

6. I canceled my cable, it's garbage

cable news is entertainment, not news.

[BumRushDaShow]

7. They call it "infotainment".

[gibraltar72]

8. Message deleted by DU the Administrators

[brush]

9. Thank goodness for print media. Newspapers are still the backbone of the press.

[Scurrilous]

10. K&R

[Adrahil]

11. I'm on team WaPo!!!!

I subscribed to the Post, but both are doing a good job!

[Honeycombe8]

12. Because of the free press, we learn these things. nt

[Raven123]

13. Good as long as they focus on the truth and not the scoop

[StarryNite]

15. Competition is good!

[FairWinds]

16. ". . two of the country's premier newspapers."

Hope they keep speaking truth to power and do more of it.

I'm a NYT subscriber, and have read them enough to be skeptical.

Though both are far superior to the Wash Times or FOX, that is a
very low standard to have to meet.

Neither the WP nor the NYT can really be trusted when it comes to
certain issues, namely: deficits, social security, single payer,
progressive politics, trade, war & peace, and much more . .

For example, both were disgraced by their coverage of Iraq (2003), and
Vietnam, Central America (1980's)

Check out FAIR http://fair.org/ as a corrective.

[gratuitous]

17. About 12 months too late, but better than nothing

Where was all this hard-hitting crusading reporter stuff when it could have kept Lord Littlehands out of the Oval Office? Oh yeah, I remember; Les Moonves laid it out for the vulnerables:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/leslie-moonves-donald-trump-may-871464

[Egnever]

20. The post has been kicking trumps ass since long before the election.

[yardwork]

32. That's true. I'm a Wa Po subscriber and they published a lot on Trump.

If more people had read the Post instead of their Facebook feeds, Trump would not be president.

[brooklynite]

18. As I recall, the WaPo announced they were "staffing up" after Trump won the election...

[AgadorSparticus]

24. +1,000 go wapo!!!

[Egnever]

19. Th guardian has also been kicking ass

I donated to them last week based on the job they are doing. Will likely subscribe to both the post and the times this week as well.

[RedSpartan]

21. I love the NYT, but have gotten a WaPo subscription now as well.

The Washington Post has been CRUSHING IT since Trump took office.

[gristy]

22. I am subscribing to both now

And reading both too!

[mvd]

25. That's a good rivalry to have!

It is feeling like journalism used to feel.

[onecaliberal]

26. Bought subscription to both. Let's support real media

[elleng]

27. It IS great!

I bought yesterday's Washington Post yesterday (used to get BOTH delivered to the door, when lived in DC) and have NYT digitally.

[C_U_L8R]

28. Either way

I'm not gonna get sick of this winning!!

[Mme. Defarge]

29. Just subscribed to the WP!

Apple Pay made it way too easy, but at least now I'm an honest woman.

[voteearlyvoteoften]

30. Am kick

[annabanana]

31. This kind of rivalry actually makes my heart sing . . . . .n/t

[barbtries]

33. after the election

i subscribed to the NYtimes, the washington post, and the LATimes. i gave to DU, Daily Kos, Media Matters, Mother Jones, Slate, i don't know who else. it was like i felt i personally could save the first amendment or something.

i had a protest sign professionally made; it has part of a John Adams quote at the top "a nation of laws not men" followed by the text of the first amendment. i have seen this as one of the scariest threats from the trump administration, and am so happy they have failed.

[IronLionZion]

34. The threat is real

they've been blocking white house press access to anyone who doesn't toe the line.

[barbtries]

35. isn't that wild and kind of terrifying.

fortunately there appears to be a veritable army of staffers in the WH who still recognize the importance of a free press. i don't even call them leakers anymore, i call them patriots.