Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
20 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
DUers I gotta tell ya. Pence is fucked as well... (Original Post) busterbrown May 2017 OP
Yes, but Missn-Hitch May 2017 #1
And who says Ryan is clean either? GBizzle May 2017 #2
I really don't think there are tapes. There might be, but I don't think so...IMO. Missn-Hitch May 2017 #3
In that case, I have no idea why they didn't just deny tapes exist and claim it was a joke. GBizzle May 2017 #5
Correct. But.... Missn-Hitch May 2017 #19
True. But it looks like Pence and Ryan were hip deep in this too... GBizzle May 2017 #20
We are not screwed iamateacher May 2017 #4
Eeeewwww! LOL Lib May 2017 #6
That's not the reason. It's some sort of religious rectitude The Velveteen Ocelot May 2017 #8
I've known quite a few couples PatSeg May 2017 #11
I was referring to Pence's refusal to eat meals with women The Velveteen Ocelot May 2017 #13
It's possible to be a right-wing religious nut and still be a competent politician, The Velveteen Ocelot May 2017 #7
Except he was on the verge of being voted out in his home state of Indiana iamateacher May 2017 #16
Read the rest of my post. I made note of his incompetence in IN. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2017 #17
Yes iamateacher May 2017 #18
Message deleted by DU the Administrators Shell_Seas May 2017 #15
I don't like him or his politics, but he is not a god OldHippieChick May 2017 #9
My dog could find the overwhelming evidence to put them all in jail (no offense Spike). BigmanPigman May 2017 #10
That's all well and good if a special prosecutor confirms this matt819 May 2017 #12
By the time they're done maybe Dancin' Rick Perry will be POTUS. Vinca May 2017 #14

Missn-Hitch

(1,383 posts)
1. Yes, but
Wed May 17, 2017, 02:16 PM
May 2017

That puts Paul Ryan in the WH. We are screwed. We must get at least the House and/or Senate in 2018.

 

GBizzle

(209 posts)
2. And who says Ryan is clean either?
Wed May 17, 2017, 02:18 PM
May 2017

They could all have said incriminating stuff in the White House, on tape.

Something to consider.

 

GBizzle

(209 posts)
5. In that case, I have no idea why they didn't just deny tapes exist and claim it was a joke.
Wed May 17, 2017, 02:25 PM
May 2017

That would be the logical, sensible, keep-your-Presidency-alive thing to do.

Missn-Hitch

(1,383 posts)
19. Correct. But....
Wed May 17, 2017, 04:43 PM
May 2017

we are talking about the Executive Producer of The Apprentice. Has he done anything logical and/or sensible?

I think it was just an empty threat against Comey.

 

GBizzle

(209 posts)
20. True. But it looks like Pence and Ryan were hip deep in this too...
Thu May 18, 2017, 10:16 AM
May 2017

Couple Trump's transition team (and Pence, who headed it) knowing about Flynn's investigation before the inauguration, and Ryan caught on tape "joking" with McCarthy that Putin pays Trump, and suddenly President Orrin Hatch doesn't sound too far-fetched.

iamateacher

(1,089 posts)
4. We are not screwed
Wed May 17, 2017, 02:22 PM
May 2017

Why is everyone fashioning Pence as a political genius? He is a far right evangelical conservative. He calls his wife "mother ". He will not have a meal with a female staff member without his wife present. This will not go over well...We are better off with Pence.

LOL Lib

(1,462 posts)
6. Eeeewwww!
Wed May 17, 2017, 02:26 PM
May 2017

So he is sexually attracted to his "mother?" I knew he looked freaky. Hey it was good enough for Cain and Abel right?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
8. That's not the reason. It's some sort of religious rectitude
Wed May 17, 2017, 02:29 PM
May 2017

where he fears that other wingnuts will think he's having sex, or wants to, with any woman he has dinner with alone without his wife present.

PatSeg

(47,399 posts)
11. I've known quite a few couples
Wed May 17, 2017, 02:33 PM
May 2017

who referred to each other as "mother" and "father". It is an old fashion thing, that is quite rare these days.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
13. I was referring to Pence's refusal to eat meals with women
Wed May 17, 2017, 02:37 PM
May 2017

unless his wife is present, which is weird.

The "mother" thing isn't that unusual among older people; I've heard it as a slightly ironic term of endearment. My dad sometimes used it that way, with no religious overtones at all.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
7. It's possible to be a right-wing religious nut and still be a competent politician,
Wed May 17, 2017, 02:28 PM
May 2017

but I don't think Pence is any kind of genius. People who had to deal with him in Indiana have said he's as dumb as a stump.

iamateacher

(1,089 posts)
16. Except he was on the verge of being voted out in his home state of Indiana
Wed May 17, 2017, 02:44 PM
May 2017

Look up "periods for Pence". It isn't going to go too well.

OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
9. I don't like him or his politics, but he is not a god
Wed May 17, 2017, 02:30 PM
May 2017

to the trump voters and I don't think I'll lose sleep worrying about him pushing the red button.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
10. My dog could find the overwhelming evidence to put them all in jail (no offense Spike).
Wed May 17, 2017, 02:31 PM
May 2017

They are ALL in on it! Manafort chose Pence. McConnell knew about Russia (collusion) as well as Ryan. It is probable that if they just scratched the surface they'd find evidence of illegal activities from MANY that we aren't even aware of and if they dug deep they'd hit the mother load. The problem is that until dems are in control NOTHING will happen to any of these muthers. There are many more involved in this than there were in Watergate when dems were in charge of the proceedings.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
12. That's all well and good if a special prosecutor confirms this
Wed May 17, 2017, 02:33 PM
May 2017

Dots are fine, but if there's no further investigation - by a government body - and if 45 is impeached, Pence will be sworn in as 46.

Vinca

(50,261 posts)
14. By the time they're done maybe Dancin' Rick Perry will be POTUS.
Wed May 17, 2017, 02:42 PM
May 2017
Or Ben "I'll Try to Keep My Eyes Open" Carson.
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»DUers I gotta tell ya. Pe...