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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo I met someone the other day who once met Donald Trump.
This man is a successful businessman himself (and not of the sociopathic huckster kind, unlike a certain orange fellow
). So I think he might be a little credible on this.
Anyway, he said to me that he had "had the misfortune of staying in a Trump hotel a number of years back." Naturally, this piqued my curiosity. So as I asked him a few more questions, this man revealed that Donald Trump just happened to be visiting this particular property on one of the days that this man was staying there.
They met in the downstairs lobby. Now, this man said that he had heard a lot of unflattering anecdotes about Trump, but other than that he really wasn't quite sure what to expect. So I asked him what Trump was actually like in person. The man replied, "He's hands down the biggest asshole I have ever met. And let me tell you something - I've met a LOT of assholes over the several decades I've done business. But this guy...goddamn.
To be more specific, he said that Trump had the most fake, incredibly awkward "smile" - the kind of expression that betrayed how much he genuinely despised listening to other people. The only times Trump really seemed to be animated and upbeat, the man told me, were "when he was talking about himself and how proud he was of his 'tremendous success.' Which was easily 80% or more of what he talked about."
Seems like Trump made quite an "impression."
lostnfound
(17,506 posts)Be entrusted with investors money...let alone hold the office of president.
How did he evade permanent consequences for his terrible behavior.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,948 posts)Obviously, the same lawyers whom work for C. Montgomery Burns, scaring and/or wearing down their opponents in Court.
maddiemom
(5,178 posts)he'll probably take all of us, the entire country, down with him. Plus, the Republicans have a lock on the White House for the next four years, even if we survive Trump, with no one in sight who's worth cheering for.
The_REAL_Ecumenist
(956 posts)thrown to Trump due to hacking & God only knows whatever else the Putinskis did to STEAL votes & the presidency? That's like someone being told that they can keep the stolen goods even though the main thieves have been incarcerated...ZERO SENSE!!
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)play out. If we could just set them aside, what replaced them would be whatever the strongest rogue group imposed.
Note that it should not be easy to remove a president who enjoys very high approval from those who elected him. If it were, we'd be tossing presidents right and left. Especially left since the right wing's typical reaction to losing elections is to form into really aggressive mobs.
The_REAL_Ecumenist
(956 posts)OFFICE? NONSENSE...Without the interfereance of the Russians, HE WOULD NOT BE IN THE WHITEHOUSE and just based on his performance, is anyone shocked about his BREATHTAKING incompetence AND corruption? NON, NONSENSE... According to the recorded interplay in the room fill of the top crooks in the Republican party, (RYAN, MCCONNELL, et all), How could ANYONE in the republican party be trusted. They're ALL complicit...
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)as well as Comey's subversion, apparently extended only to adding more layers of lies to the ones swamping the nation. They did this in an attempt to PERSUADE the electorate to vote against Democrats, especially Hillary.
But in the end it was the voters, and no one else, who decided. The electorate was suckered and manipulated, yes, but our choices rule.
Our founding fathers knew that we would frequently make stupid choices and worried that someday particularly bad ones would would destroy our nation. But they are our choices.
gopiscrap
(24,712 posts)do you work in the Church?
The_REAL_Ecumenist
(956 posts)denominations divide us. I guess you could say that I am a mystical Christian.
Right glad tameetcha GOPISCRAP. This is my NEW screenname after I wasn't able to remember the password to my original DU Screenname.. I was ECUMENIST at that time. Look forward to getting to know you through deep discussion and interplay.
JI7
(93,551 posts)Dulcinea
(10,052 posts)They WANT someone to obey without question & do their thinking for them, & they get upset if everyone else doesn't do the same.
alterfurz
(2,681 posts)...other assholes look at and say, "Now THERE'S an asshole!"
iluvtennis
(21,496 posts)BigmanPigman
(55,089 posts)Keith Olbermann was on his show and told Bill that one-on-one the Donald would seem genuinely interested in what you were saying and he would listen and was soft spoken. Bill told Keith that he had heard that from many people. He obviously has two sides like most politicians and businessmen. Also he's so crazy he probably really does have a little schizophrenia in the mix with all his other mental illnesses.
Nasruddin
(1,241 posts)Typical of many narcissists - if you're a somebody they need to impress,
you couldn't find a better companion. If you're not, well, you're lucky
not to get stepped on.
MontanaMama
(24,717 posts)Per my therapist and every therapist in her practice. Normal narcissism on steroids. Dump is a raging mess.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)tblue37
(68,421 posts)video of him leaving her behind as he enters the WH, and pics of him leaving her way behind on the airplane steps as he heads into the plane or to the car. He doesn't show even the most basic politeness toward her in public, even though that makes him look bad.

Link to tweet
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ProudProgressiveNow
(6,189 posts)idahoblue
(452 posts)Her father is in the financial business in NYC and was a friend of the family. After remaining quiet during the campaign while the rest of us were going off on Trump, the day after the election she finally let loose. She said he cannot do financial business in NYC, he is distrusted and hated by anyone reputable. Then she told a story about his visit at her home a few years ago. There was a discussion about her, single, pregnant, no intention of staying with the father. He advised her to get an abortion because her pregnancy would make her family look bad.
She hates him, her family hates him. He is a lier and a crook and everyone who has done business with him knows it.
janterry
(4,429 posts)and knew him by reputation. We all hated him. He was considered a blowhard - and mostly an embarrassment.
What gets me is that he is exactly as he appears (just as big a jerk). And yet people have fallen for it? It's unreal. He STILL has defenders.
phylny
(8,818 posts)I worked in NYC in the 70s and early 80s. There's a reason New York City didn't vote for him (except for Staten Island, but ....)
louis-t
(24,611 posts)janterry
(4,429 posts)Ligyron
(8,006 posts)A loud mouth, big city, Yankee most southerners have it in their genes to automatically hate.
I think about the irony of this a lot.
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)It turns out (I didn't know this before) that about half the US population runs on nothing but hate.
Show them that you hate others and you're their guy.
Add to that the truly gullible who thought that a billionaire who didn't even pay his bills was going to go to bat for the average, working-class people (!!! how the hell ???) and you've got enough people to make it a contest.
Then the Russian thing...
janterry
(4,429 posts)and ran away to Vermont (moving in as we speak
.
I don't get it, either. Those small towns - full of people Trump would hate to know (they are NOT his people).
And god forbid he moved next door to them, they'd hate him, too - and his city-ways.
Aviation Pro
(15,540 posts)....
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)are taken in by his phony bullshit while some of us can see through it so clearly. I have known people like that in my life. They are so phoney, so insincere, so smarmy - yet there are people who are convinced that they are charming and down to earth. It just baffles me how different people can see the same person with such different eyes.
I have no doubt that the "real Donald" is a TREMENDOUS asshole. I used to live in NYC and that was pretty much the scoop on him wherever you went. Everyone hated him.
Neema
(1,181 posts)like that and I immediately am repulsed by them. I remember a few years ago we were looking to replace a bunch of appliances and an acquaintance told us to go to a particular store and ask for some guy (I forget his name). Said he was really great and wouldn't try to screw us over, etc. So we went and within 30 seconds of meeting him my husband and I were ready to walk out. He was like a character out of a movie he was so smarmy and fake. I really questioned our friend's judgment after that.
But it must work because clearly that dude had worked at the appliance store for awhile and hadn't been fired. So somebody is buying what he's selling. Not me though, I have such a strong negative reaction to anyone trying to sell me shit if there's even a whiff of insincerity.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)One hundred deplorables have to meet with tRump one-on-one for fifteen minutes each. Afterwards, they record their impressions.
meow2u3
(25,249 posts)But I wouldn't stop at a 15-minute meeting with the Tangerine Tyrant. I'd have the 100 deplorables sit down 1-on-1 with him for about an hour. That extra 45 minutes would be more telling.
Leghorn21
(14,082 posts)pull off a "15 minute" meeting, much less an entire hour. Well, maybe if food was involved and the teevee was cranked to 11, but a quiet one-on-one lasting more than a few hundred seconds? Nyet!! Never happen! Believe me!
meow2u3
(25,249 posts)CottonBear
(21,615 posts)Leghorn21
(14,082 posts)(or...years?!) ago!
CottonBear
(21,615 posts)I currently like the moniker Dolt45.
I think I'll now refer to him as Dolt45, the Sunkist Stalin aka the Tangerine Tyrant.
Leghorn21
(14,082 posts)go with "dft" - short & sweet!
CottonBear
(21,615 posts)I've friends who won't speak his name. They simply refer to him as DT.
I think I'll suggest dft to them!
Leghorn21
(14,082 posts)Now "back in the day", I saw "DFT" either here or on twitter, and I stole that, except I refuse to capitalize it, right?? Why, that would show entirely too much "respect", Bear, so I ain't doin it!!
Leghorn21
(14,082 posts)LakeArenal
(29,949 posts)I didn't think so...
pansypoo53219
(23,028 posts)showing off years ago on PBS-THIS OLD HOUSE. but then, i have a paternal unit who is a low grade charming jerk. more W than Turnip. and i was a kid. but i have always been good at sensing people.
Tracer
(2,769 posts)I've watched EVERY SINGLE EPISODE of TOH and never remember seeing that asshole.
I think you must have it wrong.
joe_stampingbull
(165 posts)nt
BobTheSubgenius
(12,212 posts)My wife used to look after the needs of various celebrities at fund-raising events, and said they were, almost without exception, very nice people. Got quite friendly with a few - Denzel, Jamie Farr, Angela Bassett, Loni Anderson among them.
Two of the most down-to-earth people she met were actually working as volunteers with their first names on tags, but not their surname. Near the end of the event, she apologized to them for being too busy to introduce herself and thank them. Turns out, they were du Ponts.
Bill'O The Clown, however, was a complete asshole, from start to finish. OReilly was st least as big a dick as he seems on TV.
world wide wally
(21,836 posts)who like him make me wonder about them.
Juliusseizure
(562 posts)DFW
(60,133 posts)She was chaperoning a bunch of underprivileged inner city kids in a park in New Jersey, and Trump was supposed to be their celebrity guest of honor. He flew in on his own helicopter, told them that if they REALLY worked hard, someday they'd have their own helicopter just like he did.
He then turned around, went back to his helicopter and flew off. Spent zero time with the children, who, my sibling said, looked after him with a "WTF WAS THAT?" look on their faces.
C_U_L8R
(49,344 posts)
?1451341880Historic NY
(39,993 posts)even his family takes a back seat. For his poorly educated, he's a dumb fuck wad.
titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)I used to be a vendor who would occasionally work at Mar-a-Lago. I was there a number of times working when he was staying there in the Winter. He would occasionally shuffle up to me while working and say some strange things...."Nice day for a stroll" or one time he was still pissed about the Palm Beach Airport flight path "Fuck those airplanes that fly over my house ll the time." I found him to be rather teenagerish in demeanor and the way he spoke. I also remember his shifty eyes.
phylny
(8,818 posts)He, too, has not only met Trump but has been involved in business dealings. Now this guy HAS to be a Republican (just knowing his temperament, the reasons my friend divorced him, etc. - sorry, but stereotypes). When another friend asked if he voted for Trump, she said "his face got hard and angry, and he said something like, 'Not on your life. He's a conniving, deceitful jerk.'"
TheBlackAdder
(29,981 posts)ProfessorGAC
(76,603 posts)I forgot about that, and that's my current favorite version of that story. Thanks.
(BTW: Me second favorite is still the version with Alistair Sims.)
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)This was 40 years ago when I was working in Manhattan. Took a walk on my lunch break and noticed a group of people standing around a building. I stopped to see what was going on. Trump came up to me, said "I am Donald Trump" and that it was his building. He then made a slur about Puerto Ricans, and offered me that tour. No, thanks, I have to get back work. I started walking away, but he followed me down the street. "I will call your boss." "When he hears who I am, he will be fine with your being late." I said no and to leave me alone. Kept yapping on and on following me. When we reached 6th Avenue, I ran across the street to escape him.
What an arrogant creep who would not take no for answer. When I heard that one woman say Trump wanted to give her a "private tour", it sent chills down my spine. 40 years later and he was still using that same line?
crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)The only thing I'll give the asshole (not my dad) is that he never butchered my last name (many people have).
Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)Asshole of all assholes.....
Always was and always will be....
Demsrule86
(71,542 posts)We lived in Connecticut and my Dad new plenty of guys Trump had bankrupted...my brother was involved in a Trump project and said," whatever you hear about Trump...it is ten times worse". My brother is a moderate Republican who did vote for Obama the second time and Hillary in 16 because of his knowledge of Trump and his dislike of white supremacists...trying to reform the boy...but even though he is registered as a GOP he sometimes votes Democratic. He admired Pres. Obama greatly.
Generic Brad
(14,374 posts)Never met him, but it was so ostentatious and over the top tacky ornate that I felt like I needed a shower when I was done. Eew.
I remember thinking that if I were ever rich enough to afford luxury like that, I would never waste it on stupid decorations like he had in his jet. If it was decorated so as to impress people, then it worked. It impressed upon me that the guy who owned the plane was an idiot with his money.