I thought we were adults at DU. Can we stop with the "roast in Hell, Ailes" baby talk?

[stopbush]

There is no hell, people. You know it, I know it.

There is no comfort to be had in imagining a shit like Ailes is suffering eternal damnation. He isn't. It's us who are suffering the hell he created here in the USA.

Believing that there is some kind of ultimate justice awaiting shits like Ailes is the kind of childish thinking that lets them get away with their crap while they are living. The only Justice out there is the justice that we as living human beings bring to bear on other living human beings.

Ailes was a criminal who got away with his criminality. While we can and should celebrate the fact that he's dead, we should leave it at that and skip the infantile idea that some supernatural being is visiting an eternity of torment on this bastard.

[leftstreet]

1. Meh. It's just a phrase n/t

[nini]

2. Oh FFS

Honestly.. it's a saying more than anything that glad that asshole is dead.

And if someone does believe in hell - let them.

[NightWatcher]

3. It'll pass by today's 5pm bombshell news.

No idea what it is but we've been told that even more shocking revelations are coming from major newspapers today and tomorrow.

[MineralMan]

4. Some of us are. Others, I'm not sure of.

[Calculating]

5. Why so butthurt?

Stuff like this is why some people dislike atheists. It's fine that you don't believe, but why trash on the beliefs of many other people calling them childish and infantile?

[stopbush]

8. Could be that it's because Jesus said that anyone who didn't

confess him as their lord and savior would burn in eternal hell fire? Ergo, those Xians who believe in hell because they believe that Jesus existed and said the things he supposedly said must believe that atheists are also destined for that same hell, no?

That is, unless they want to cherry pick what Jesus said...which may give them the out to say, nah, I don't believe atheists burn in hell, even though Jesus said they most definitely do. If you're going to ignore that pat of Jesus teaching, why not go all the way and just ignore the part about hell existing?

So. Are those beliefs childish and infantile, or are they something much, much worse?

[steve2470]

6. This happens every single time someone horrible dies

I'm not big on pissing on graves but live and let live. Ailes died. Not gonna say anything further.

[snooper2]

12. Pissing on graves doesn't do anything anyway- Now if we had known

He was going to die a couple days beforehand we could have smacked him around a little bit until his death. That would be more fitting

[kimbutgar]

7. No he destroyed intelligence, factual news and civility in this country.

He made stupid people even more stupid.

No, I am happy he's frying in hell.

[Lil Missy]

9. Your first mistake is assuming everyone on DU is and acts like an adult. On the contrary,

there are very few "adults" on DU.

[RoBear]

16. oh come now...

"very few"?

So how does that play against the current administration--all three branches?

[Adrahil]

10. It's perfectly adult to wish that fucker a suit of flames.

He is directly responsible for much of the creation of the right wing propaganda machine that is doing our country immeasurable harm. I'm not a believer, so I think he's just gonna feed the worms (and probably kill them too), but if there IS a hell, I hope he finds himself cordially roasting in it.

[neeksgeek]

35. Now the D and the A and the M and the N...

Wonderful song. Very "fitting."

[FSogol]

11. Instead, let's stop posts where some scolding DUer goes, "tsk, tsk."

[cyclonefence]

28. come sit with me

[Iggo]

13. I agree that there is no afterlife.

I just hope he died the way he deserved to die: Naked, cold, and alone.

[Javaman]

14. I hope Ailes roasts in Hell

see what I did there, school marm? LOL

[Sunlei]

15. don't worry by tomorrow people will forget him and Republicans will continue to upgrade hell.

[WinkyDink]

17. Well, aren't you the scold!

[Greybnk48]

18. How about this? I hope he does not moulder well.

That he has trouble mouldering, and things eat him and shit him out.

[Goodheart]

19. It's just an expression. I doubt anybody here takes it literally.

[Orrex]

20. There are plenty of better phrases to celebrate his death, I agree

In another thread I expressed the wish to fill his casket with dysentery shit and seal his corpse in with it for eternity (or as long as possible).

I'm with you in principle on the supernatural thing, but honestly it bothers me more when people invoke such empty phrases to express sympathy.


If they're rejoicing at the death of a horrible creature like Ailes, I'm content to let them express it however they wish.

[Greybnk48]

23. "We named our cats 'thoughts' and 'prayers'

because they're useless." A meme my husband has on his phone.

[Orrex]

24. I've heard a variation of that...

"Because they're useless and they don't do anything."


Love it!

[Calculating]

21. This is for you Ailes

[La Lioness Priyanka]

22. many adults believe in god and hell.

i don't but doesn't bother me when others do.

[Iggo]

25. It doesn't bother me when they do. It bothers me that they do.

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But that's for another time and another forum.

[Chemisse]

30. I agree! Who has the energy to be all worried about what other people believe?!

People can believe in pink unicorns, for all I care, as long as they don't pester me to do the same.

[The_Casual_Observer]

26. I could care less about that bastard. I rejoice that he is dead.

[wasupaloopa]

27. This always happens when one of these ass holes dies. I hope karma makes his next life is there is

one pure misery

[retrowire]

29. This.

I'd rather celebrate the life of a good dead man (Chris Cornell) than dance on the grave of a bad dead man.

[lisby]

31. I don't believe in hell

but I do believe in an afterlife and karma and no scolding by you is going to change that. Sorry. You have every right not to believe in anything you can't see, but you don't have the right to shove it down my throat.

Otherwise, peace to you, friend.

[heaven05]

32. WHY? NO!!!!!!

what he represented and will continue to represent via his 'news channel' has damned us all to a lifetime of misery, defeat, stupidity and ignorance in people that wish me a heinous death. Hence we end up with an administration such as we have. NO ONE here has the right to judge another persons maturity based on glee that this POS is dead. I AM GLAD HE IS DEAD!!!! Wish he could die a thousand times in front of me. As I will be when david duke et al. are dead or dying.

[stonecutter357]

33. he fell and hit his head so it was a very painful way to go....;

[Frustratedlady]

34. Everyone has to be somewhere at some time...

So, that's where people first thought of...

We didn't want to waste a lot of time contemplating and many had told him to go there for years. If there is no hell, then there is no problem for Ailes. If there is, he'll have a grand reunion with his friends.

[gopiscrap]

36. OK then how about

may someone climb on his coffin, open the lid and shit on his corpse face!!! and piss daily on his headstone.

[The Blue Flower]

37. "Democratic" means that people are entitled to their beliefs and opinions

nt

[Vogon_Glory]

38. No, I don't think many of us are quite done yet. We need catharsis

The older I get, the more I think many of us need catharsis when a detested, dishonorable antagonist snuffs it. Roger Ailes was neither a William F. Buckley nor an HL Mencken; he was apolitical propagandist that spread falsehoods, ruined people's lives, and gleefully used lies and rumors to debase American political discourse. Most of us are not saints and we're tired of the abuse from our tormentors; to celebrate Ailes' removal from political discourse is quite human and quite understandable.

[Orsino]

39. Can't hurt Ailes now.

Nor are his loved ones (if any) likely to be surfing DU.

[stonecutter357]

40. Can he Choose what cenobite he is going to be?