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So awful and senseless. A textbook example of why we need to keep and use the death penalty.
http://www.wapt.com/article/boy-inside-car-kidnapped-during-auto-theft/9871713
JACKSON, Miss.
The Hinds County Sheriff's Department has taken a second person of interest in custody in connection with the death of a 6-year-old boy.
Maj. Pet Luke, with the Hinds County Sheriff's Department, said Kingston Frazier, 6, was found in the 1200 block of Gluckstadt Road in Madison County at about 9:30 a.m.
The body was in the back of a Toyota Camry that was reported stolen with Kingston inside, Jackson police said. The boy had been shot, police said.
"This is the worst day of my career -- of my 17-year career," said Jackson police Cmdr. Tyree Jones. "Anytime you have that kind of hurt or harm to a child, a defenseless, harmless child, it's bad."
Dwan Dion do Wakefield, 18, of Ridgeland was taken into custody about 11 a.m. Thursday, Luke said. DeAllen Washington, 18, was apprehended later in the day, Luke said.
The Mississippi Bureau of Investigation issued an Amber Alert for Kingston at about 4:30 a.m.
The boy was inside the silver 2000 Toyota Camry about 2 a.m. Thursday in the parking lot of Kroger on Interstate 55, when someone stole the car, police said. The boy's mother left the car running while she went inside the store, authorities said.
The Hinds County Sheriffs Department handles security at the store.
The car thief got out of what appears to be a silver Honda Civic with a dent on the rear passenger's side, investigators said.
These individuals must be held accountable. Were going to conduct a multi-jurisdictional investigation. Were going to follow up on all leads. Were going to ask the public, anyone with any information, to call us, Jones said. We want to bring someone, or some people, to justice.
Kingston attended North Jackson Elementary School.
Perps and victim
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luvMIdog
(2,533 posts)BigDemVoter
(4,149 posts)I actually think life in prison is a much harder punishment.
In any case, I'm a firm believe that the government has NO business KILLING its citizens.
Ronan the Accuser
(8 posts)Send him on a long bid in Parchman.
HeartachesNhangovers
(814 posts)easy, considering the alternative: decades in prison, and probably as pariahs.
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)have no place in a civilized society. With such a cowardly - and totally unnecessary - act they forfeited their right to be among us. These are poster children for the death penalty.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)EL34x4
(2,003 posts)A car you can find on craigslist for $1500.
What kind of monster does this? Just unbelievable.
Calculating
(2,955 posts)I can only assume they killed him so he couldn't identify them or something. This wasn't a case of a robbery gone bad where somebody just panicked and pulled the trigger. This was cold blooded murder by a couple of sociopaths. I don't even consider them to be human honestly. They lack something called 'empathy' which is what separates most humans from animals.
packman
(16,296 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)I don't support the death penalty in any circumstances. Rather keep the perps alive as long as humanly possible.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,307 posts)Also against it. Even in this case.
tenderfoot
(8,425 posts)eom
yardwork
(61,538 posts)The death penalty isn't the answer. Throw them in prison for the rest of their lives.
I am so sorry for the family.
lindysalsagal
(20,581 posts)Poor family.
Ohioblue22
(1,430 posts)prolonging it would be cruel
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)Just day after endless day bored with no hope of ever getting free.
madokie
(51,076 posts)How in the hell can anyone shoot and kill a child
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,816 posts)Of course, if people didn't have guns . . . . Nah, silly idea.
Maybe the six year old should have had a gun, whaddya think?
Okay, so this may not be a good place to bring up the whole gun debate, but better these young men spend a very long time without any freedom.
malaise
(268,693 posts)Fugg 'em!
mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)Jake Stern
(3,145 posts)Are you willing to have YOUR rights casually tossed aside because of emotion?
What happened to the child is heinous but everybody, including these two, are entitled to a fair trial.
mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)Mariana
(14,854 posts)I know everyone doesn't agree with that idea, but it's very sad to see someone on DU advocating it.
SoCalMusicLover
(3,194 posts)He should have had his own gun to defend himself with.
Only a pro-gun person would think this story has nothing to do with guns. But it has EVERYTHING to do with guns, and the fact there are so many in this country, it's easy enough for killers like these to get their hands on some.
uponit7771
(90,301 posts)Laffy Kat
(16,373 posts)How could anyone? No words, no words.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)child like that. I can't understand such senseless violence. Rest in peace sweet child.
Rhiannon12866
(204,740 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Skittles
(153,111 posts)I've read several cases where a guy jacked a car not knowing a child was inside - they always stopped somewhere and dropped the child off
why, why?
lpbk2713
(42,736 posts)The more they yelled at him to shut up the worse he got.
So ..
roamer65
(36,744 posts)Child murderers/rapists are bottom of the rung in the pecking order.
Jake Stern
(3,145 posts)The answer to killing is not more killing.
Ronan the Accuser
(8 posts)or books (like the person above) - let him stew and think about why he would kill a 6 year old.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)bigtree
(85,975 posts)...about the efficacy or effectiveness of the death penalty.
Stinky The Clown
(67,761 posts)nolabear
(41,932 posts)I'm angry too. But once you cross that line you do things that can't be undone.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Six months a year in a SuperMax
Six months a year in a Standard Federal Prison in the general population.
Keep rotating.
taught_me_patience
(5,477 posts)Then put them down like dogs.
csziggy
(34,131 posts)What kind of society lets young men grow up to be so desperate for money to steal a car worth so little? It being Mississippi, I wonder how bad the school systems are, whether anyone ever tried to reach those kids, whether they ever had a chance to make something of themselves?
THIS is why we need to pour money into our educations systems AND into arts and other enrichment programs that show children a wider world than the one they were born into.
The world has lost three young lives that most likely could have been so much more. Now one child will be buried and two young men will cost the state millions of dollars to take to trial, lock up for decades, and maybe put to death.
What a loss all the way around.
Calculating
(2,955 posts)She'll probably blame herself for this incident and live in a self-made hell for the rest of her life. A total of 4 lives ruined/ended and millions wasted incarcerating/executing the two perps. All of this over a damn clunker of a car.... WHY? is the only thought that comes to my mind.
csziggy
(34,131 posts)The mother and family of the little boy, the mothers and families of the two perpetrators - they will all suffer from the loss of their children.
Last year I was on a jury for a young man who had just graduated from college and pretty much had a melt down. The jury really had no choice but to find him guilty - his attorney stipulated the facts and all we had to do was to decide on the level of charges.
While I did not want to cut him any slack for his attack on a female friend of his that has left her scarred for life (he bit her lower lip off), I also felt bad for him and his family. In a Florida prison he will get no counseling, and no help with how to rebuild his life when he gets out. His life is ruined as surely as his victim's.
His attorney said he was the first of his family to go to college - and it was clearly devastating to them to see him in court being declared guilty of a horrific crime. The entire family lost and will suffer for what happened.
I don't know if there were any signs beforehand that he was having difficulties with transitioning from college to career, and leaving the friends he had in college to move to another place. There may not have been - if there were I wish he had gotten help then.
We are failing the children of our society when so many are not able to find ways to live their lives that help them keep out of trouble.
JI7
(89,239 posts)the 6 year old's last moments in his short life were in fear. fuck those two.
csziggy
(34,131 posts)They are lost just as surely as the 6 year old is lost.
Certainly I have more sympathy for the loss of the 6 year old and the grief of his family. But if we do not make an effort to understand how the two killers became what they are we will continue to see this cycle and we will continue to lose both victims and perpetrators - both groups could contribute so much more to the benefit of our country.
Elizabeth George, the author of the Inspector Thomas Lynley mystery series, wrote a plot in which Lynley's wife was killed in one book of the series (With No One As Witness).
Her next book was What Came Before He Shot Her:
The brutal, inexplicable death of Inspector Thomas Lynleys wife has left Scotland Yard shocked and searching for answers. Even more horrifying is that the trigger was apparently pulled by a twelve-year-old boy. Who is he? Where did he come from? And what were the circumstances that led to his final act of desperation?
That story begins on the other side of London in rough North Kensington, where the three, mixed-race, virtually orphaned Campbell children are bounced first from their grandmother to their aunt.
http://www.elizabethgeorgeonline.com/books.htm
George investigates in excruciating detail how the system failed the child/killer. After reading that book, I find it hard to simply want punitive measures taken against young killers. Something brought them to that stage and a normal society with healthy systems would not do that.
If anything is destroying our country, it is the failure of our systems to educate children, to give them the tools they need to lead their lives with some degree of success, and to help them when they need it.
Those two 18 year old killers are lost. They will go to prison (or to the death chamber) and will not be helped so if they ever get out of prison they can work on better lives. They are probably so damaged that no amount of work would make them able to lead productive lives (whatever that phrase might mean) but that should not blind us to the fact that we are failing the children of our country - and now the Republicans want to cut the budgets of the very systems that we need to strengthen to help them.
Yes, we could echo the cries of "Lock 'em up!" but how will just doing that prevent another tragedy like this?
JI7
(89,239 posts)to know right/wrong. fuck them both.
Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)in hell. And whether they'll get it or not, they deserve death. (I'm rather ambivalent about the death penalty, I admit.)
I'm originally from South Africa, where car jackings and house break-ins are often accompanied by the murder of the inhabitants of said cars and homes, including children, so this is not new for me. But it is upsetting each time.
My sympathies to the mother, but why oh why did she leave her 6 year old in the car? Isn't that against the law? (I'm not shifting blame to her, I'm just wondering since I though that was illegal until they're teens.)