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Our desire for never-ending intervention overseas causes never-ending pain for our troops.
US Marine Corps soldiers pay their respects in the Helmand Province of Afghanistan in 2009. (AP Photo / Julie Jacobson)
By Peter Van Buren
TODAY 12:05 PM
My guilt will never go away, former Marine Matthew Hoh explained to me. There is a significant portion of me that doesnt believe it should be allowed to go away, that this pain is fair.
If America accepts the idea of fighting endless wars, it will have to accept something else as well: that the costs of war are similarly endless. Im thinking about the trillions of dollars, the million or more enemy dead (a striking percentage of them civilians), the tens of thousands of American combat casualties, those 20 veteran suicides each day, and the diminished lives of those who survive all of that. Theres that pain, carried by an unknown number of women and men, that wont disappear, ever, and that goes by the label moral injury.
THE LASTING PAIN OF WAR
When I started Hoopers War, a novel about the end of World War II in the Pacific, I had in mind just that pain. I was thinkingcouldnt stop thinking, in factabout what really happens to people in war, combatants and civilians alike. The need to tell that story grew in large part out of my own experiences in Iraq, where I spent a year embedded with a combat unit as a US State Department employee, and where I witnessed, among so many other horrors, two soldier suicides.
The new book began one day when Facebook retrieved photos of Iraqi children I had posted years ago, with a cheery See Your Memories caption on them. Oh yes, I remembered. Then, on the news, I began seeing places in Iraq familiar to me, but this time being overrun by Islamic State militants or later being re-retaken with the help of another generation of young Americans. And I kept running into people whod been involved in my war and were all too ready to share too many drinks and tell me too much about what I was already up all too many nights thinking about.
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guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)War brutalizes both sides. Look at the current Israeli/Palestinian conflict as one example among many of how both sides are brutalized.
rug
(82,333 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Northern Ireland,
the US, (North vs South)
Quebec vs Anglophone Canada, (mainly among the PQ partisans),
Israel/Palestine,
and on and on.
eleny
(46,166 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)One wonders how many of the wounded soldiers he has painted were wounded because of the Bush/Cheney lies that started the wars in which the soldiers were wounded.
eleny
(46,166 posts)NotMyFuhrer
(58 posts)Not to mention the people in Iraq who died as a direct result of his miss step (MORE THAN Sadam ever killed!!) . . . or the people still reeling from pictures and actions of what went on at Abu Ghraib !!
What about the reprecussions of all that COLLATERAL DAMAGE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can also add the current Syrian mess (chaos, instability, armed militia (with OUR "surge" weapons!) to the list!
NotMyFuhrer
(58 posts)Looks like it is time to start networking on the following THREAD . . .
No more war
https://www.democraticunderground.com/~no%20more%20war
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1021110
In 2012 . . . Jim . . . in Florida started an important topic. WAR!! (The end of humanity as we know it, mass murder, insane aggression, Deranged Leadership). Whatever you call it.
I vote for starting up the conversation again!! Today's times REQUIRE IT!!!!
Think: Syria, Hamas, N. Korea, Somalia, Turkey/Kurds, India/Pakistan . . . non-state Terrorists running around with bombs . . . what could go wrong?
#
RKP5637
(67,088 posts)genetically defective programming, hard-wired for conflicts, and the profiteers of war make hoards of money.
Shandris
(3,447 posts)It's an energy thing, and it's unavoidable (although it can be lessened and/or strengthened). It's also why we will continue to have war. There are individuals who desire this effect.
You can not truly kill your way to peace, safety, security, utopia, or literally ANYTHING...but doom, although you can push the doom down the road.
For a while.