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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Fri May 19, 2017, 05:29 AM May 2017

Matt Taibbi: Roger Ailes Was One of the Worst Americans Ever

Roger Ailes Was One of the Worst Americans Ever

Fox News founder made this the hate-filled, moronic country it is today



http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/taibbi-roger-ailes-was-one-of-the-worst-americans-ever-w483013

On the Internet today you will find thousands, perhaps even millions, of people gloating about the death of elephantine Fox News founder Roger Ailes. The happy face emojis are getting a workout on Twitter, which is also bursting with biting one-liners.

When I mentioned to one of my relatives that I was writing about the death of Ailes, the response was, "Say that you hope he's reborn as a woman in Saudi Arabia."

Ailes has no one but his fast-stiffening self to blame for this treatment. He is on the short list of people most responsible for modern America's vicious and bloodthirsty character.

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Ailes was the Christopher Columbus of hate. When the former daytime TV executive and political strategist looked across the American continent, he saw money laying around in giant piles. He knew all that was needed to pick it up was a) the total abandonment of any sense of decency or civic duty in the news business, and b) the factory-like production of news stories that spoke to Americans' worst fantasies about each other.

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Matt Taibbi: Roger Ailes Was One of the Worst Americans Ever (Original Post) Miles Archer May 2017 OP
Absolutely savage. Gravitycollapse May 2017 #1
Absolute truth sometimes is! Dustlawyer May 2017 #17
I have to agree with Matt madokie May 2017 #2
Popular and rich all from hate and lies. lindysalsagal May 2017 #3
Now to the real root of the problem... mdbl May 2017 #4
There is a legitimate chicken-egg question that could be posed here DFW May 2017 #6
As prophesied by the movie Idiocracy..... mdbl May 2017 #7
Not the choice most conducive to improvement, either. n/t DFW May 2017 #8
So, the only way to deal with them is total manipulation mdbl May 2017 #9
Ailes knew this from the 1968 campaign DFW May 2017 #11
They were there all along crazycatlady May 2017 #20
I'm going with "B" also. HughBeaumont May 2017 #21
In my bubble bucolic_frolic May 2017 #12
That's more like it BeyondGeography May 2017 #5
Couldn't Agree More! Rot in hell Roger! Chasstev365 May 2017 #10
Yes shenmue May 2017 #13
My thoughts exactly. Ailes is responsible for the atmosphere of hate and division. Vinca May 2017 #14
Trivialized life and death issues. zentrum May 2017 #15
ding dong the warlock is dead lambchopp59 May 2017 #16
A wasted life dreamland May 2017 #18
RIH Nitram May 2017 #19
Amen! volstork May 2017 #23
ailes is dead? KG May 2017 #22
Superb..."i hope he comes back as a woman in Saudi Arabia".. WoonTars May 2017 #24
Great article until the swipe at liberals Wednesdays May 2017 #25
The air is already easier to breath. progressoid May 2017 #26
No Doubt colsohlibgal May 2017 #27
I'm usually not one to dance on people's graves but Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2017 #28
I thought we were supposed to hate Taibbi now melman May 2017 #29

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
4. Now to the real root of the problem...
Fri May 19, 2017, 06:02 AM
May 2017

....gullible ignorant Americans. How do we deal with that before another Roger is born?....

DFW

(54,378 posts)
6. There is a legitimate chicken-egg question that could be posed here
Fri May 19, 2017, 06:11 AM
May 2017

Can the exploding percentage of gullible, ignorant Americans be laid at his feet, or did he get rich because they were there as low hanging fruit to begin with?

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
9. So, the only way to deal with them is total manipulation
Fri May 19, 2017, 06:20 AM
May 2017

because common sense doesn't exist in their world. That is where we were going wrong. We've been trying to appeal to an intellect that wasn't there.

DFW

(54,378 posts)
11. Ailes knew this from the 1968 campaign
Fri May 19, 2017, 06:41 AM
May 2017

Our problem is, we all know that the huge success of Roger Ailes came from appealing to people's basest instincts. Our dilemma is trying to find a way to succeed without appealing to those base instincts, and there are just too many people you can't reach otherwise.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
21. I'm going with "B" also.
Fri May 19, 2017, 09:05 AM
May 2017

The rise of Hate Media made being an asshole fashionable again. Long, isolated periods of time listening to nasty commentators playing to already-existing pet hates - a great recipe for a divided America.

Rupert and Roger weren't the only ones - but they were the most connected.

bucolic_frolic

(43,161 posts)
12. In my bubble
Fri May 19, 2017, 07:24 AM
May 2017

the rise of Fox News began with the OJ Simpson white bronco chase

It was the first real media hype in my memory, with an honorable mention
to Bill Clinton's Bad Hair Day, which was years later learned to be fabricated
and for which there was no video to draw viewers

OJ chase had it all

Fox rode that horse into sports programming and fed news-sports one off the other

Yes it all appealed to the lesser mentally gifted, but also caught many ordinary people
with good minds who were just relaxed because it was recreation - sports

It was a marketing empire in my view

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
5. That's more like it
Fri May 19, 2017, 06:10 AM
May 2017

"Ailes was the Christopher Columbus of hate. When the former daytime TV executive and political strategist looked across the American continent, he saw money laying around in giant piles. He knew all that was needed to pick it up was a) the total abandonment of any sense of decency or civic duty in the news business, and b) the factory-like production of news stories that spoke to Americans' worst fantasies about each other."

Vinca

(50,271 posts)
14. My thoughts exactly. Ailes is responsible for the atmosphere of hate and division.
Fri May 19, 2017, 07:47 AM
May 2017

He almost single-handedly destroyed the notion of "one nation." He led the dumbing down of America and was proud of it. Thanks, Matt.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
15. Trivialized life and death issues.
Fri May 19, 2017, 08:00 AM
May 2017

From his wikipedia page:

"If you have two guys on a stage and one guy says, 'I have a solution to the Middle East problem,' and the other guy falls in the orchestra pit, who do you think is going to be on the evening news?"


What FOX does to facts makes it basically a criminal enterprise. Evil.

The harm inflicted by him on the country is incalculable.

dreamland

(964 posts)
18. A wasted life
Fri May 19, 2017, 08:31 AM
May 2017

For all the good he could have done with the money he's made, he chose to grow rich and perpetrate hate. In the end, he takes nothing with him but a bad reputation.

Wednesdays

(17,374 posts)
25. Great article until the swipe at liberals
Fri May 19, 2017, 10:10 AM
May 2017

He just had to sneak in a little "both sides do it" drivel. Other than that, spot on.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
27. No Doubt
Sat May 20, 2017, 12:31 AM
May 2017

This slime was in essence our version of a Hitler's propoganda master Joseph Goebbels....shoveling out right wing talk 24/7 while calling it fair and balanced.

The damage Fox has caused is incalculable.

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