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Baitball Blogger

(46,684 posts)
Fri May 19, 2017, 11:47 AM May 2017

The 39 Percent - America's Lost Tribe.

I don't know why we're waiting to see them budge from their political positions. It's their way of life that is under indictment and if they can accept cheating in order to win elections, don't expect them to support any process that will prove them wrong.

I wish I could say they have a common factor that we can use to out them, but they come from diverse economic backgrounds. I've seen people who have grown up around wealthy circles, (and never served in the military), pushing the same false right-wing news and views as friends who grew up on military bases and owe their existence to tax-payer money. I don't have any doubt that if you put these two groups together in the same room, one would complain about the smell of polyester and the other would call the other arrogant. And, yet, they are Trump's support group.

It has been very difficult to navigate the few social venues where we find ourselves in the same place, but what I have discovered is that it's more important for them to get that group photo opportunity that will assert to the world, that nothing has changed, that all is good and this is just a political disagreement. But things have changed.

Anyone who is a Trump supporter who questions the investigative process that is underway, can only do so because of situational ethics. And why should this surprise us? They were willing to accept a win that was gamed from the start. Seriously, I would now question someone's integrity based on where they stand politically today. Where I might once doubt what happened to personal items that disappeared after someone's visit to the house, I will question no longer. That's how convinced I am that support for Trump at this stage in history is more than misjudgment. So, maybe we should stop waiting for them to see the light.



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CK_John

(10,005 posts)
1. IMO, it's easy to understand, they will never have a good job.
Fri May 19, 2017, 12:03 PM
May 2017

They may not know why but they know that we are in a change that will wipeout the middle class.

Automation is just not creating enough jobs and by 2020 we will be looking at a 40-60%.

Doodley

(9,048 posts)
2. It isn't always about integrity. Many have been subjected to the extreme right propaganda
Fri May 19, 2017, 12:06 PM
May 2017

day after day all their lives, or they have parents who hold those views, and they have been programmed to believe the very worst of liberals. They have inexplicable anger at what is essentially a party for the many, not the few. In a way, they are victims too. We are all human, and humans can be manipulated and used by authoritarians in power.

But this is the hardcore. Trump's support is eroding. You say, "the 39 percent." It was 46 percent at the beginning of February, and it seems that there is only one way to go from here.

Dulcinea

(6,604 posts)
3. Authoritarian personalities
Fri May 19, 2017, 12:08 PM
May 2017

I think a lot of Trump supporters are authoritarian personalities: people who WANT someone they can obey without question, who will do their thinking for them, & provide security in a big, scary world that's undergoing a lot of change. Why else would they defend everything he does?

The shite will really hit the fan when they discover that The Donald doesn't care about them or their concerns. Never has, never will.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
5. I think you have to default to the assumption that the non-voters are split along the same lines
Fri May 19, 2017, 12:17 PM
May 2017

... in the absence of any better evidence.

leftstreet

(36,101 posts)
8. I would doubt that
Fri May 19, 2017, 03:55 PM
May 2017

I understand what you're saying, but I think the evidence (not voting) indicates otherwise

anarch

(6,535 posts)
11. I think there's a disproportionately large number of Americans who are simply apathetic
Fri May 19, 2017, 04:29 PM
May 2017

This is just based on anecdotal evidence on my part, and to be fair, some of these people I'm thinking of have had their voting rights restricted due to felony convictions (although they didn't, as far as I know, ever vote before they got busted either), but I find it amazing how many people don't see any connection between politics and our collective quality of life, and/or simply don't think it matters one way or the other if they vote or not. In some ways, I think that's a bigger problem than the relatively small contingent of dedicated right-wing extremists that make up Fuckface von Clownstick's core voting bloc.

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
6. When are the next polls due out?
Fri May 19, 2017, 12:19 PM
May 2017

I'm hoping there is a solid 6+ point drop in approval across all demographics.

I wonder how low it will go after his first gaffe?

kairos12

(12,843 posts)
7. Agreed. The only way Drumpt drops below 39% is if he proposes National Health
Fri May 19, 2017, 12:32 PM
May 2017

Insurance (yeah right) or he proposes any gun control legislature (yeah right again).

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
9. The common factor is Fox News.
Fri May 19, 2017, 03:56 PM
May 2017

These folks get their news almost exclusively from Fox and believe nothing they hear anywhere else. It is poisonous and can turn otherwise good people into rageaholics.

mountain grammy

(26,598 posts)
10. You really think it's that high?
Fri May 19, 2017, 04:10 PM
May 2017

I don't, but what does it really matter? it's high enough for this shitshow, so you're probably right.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
12. Birds of a feather...
Fri May 19, 2017, 04:34 PM
May 2017

I know a lot of people who aren't very well off and uneducated who are just like Trump. I think he attracts people who are either just like him or who want to be just like him. He is a role model as a sleazebag con-man who is rich (because he was born into it) and they want to be him. They think his sleaze is cool. They admire it. They want to be it.

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