Pence is Obvioulsy the One Who Convinced Trump To Pull a "Saturday Night Massacre."

[McCamy Taylor]

What a wild two weeks. Trump was safe. His party had control of both houses of Congress and the Justice Department. He had the power to change the subject at any time just by lobbing missiles at a foreign country. Americans love a good gladiatorial battle--as long as it is being fought in someone else's back yard. And then someone persuaded Trump to pull the ultimate Dick move. And by "Dick" I mean Dick Nixon, the man who single handedly jump started the Watergate scandal by arranging to have Special Prosecutor Cox fired. Anyone who was alive in 1973 remembers the Saturday Night Massacre. It was the moment America turned on its president--a president who really did win by a popular landslide. Trump just barely squeaked by on a technicality. What made him think that he could get away with copying Nixon's greatest mistake? What snake in the grass was whispering in his ear? Telling him "You're the president. You can do anything. "

Pence now claims it was Sessions and Rosenstein. Obviously a lie. If Rosenstein was guilty of that kind of obstruction of justice, he would not have appointed a special prosecutor to investigate, indict and jail all the people involved in the conspiracy to obstruct justice. Rosenstein was forced to appoint a special prosecutor in order to save his own skin after Trump and Pence tried to throw him under the bus.

Now, ask yourself, who benefits if the Assistant Attorney General is forced to appoint a special prosecutor who will almost certainly recommend that Trump be impeached? Answer, Trump's Vice President who hopes to be president soon.

That is why I think that Pence is the one who persuaded Trump to fire Comey. And now, he will promise pardons for everyone--if everyone just keeps their mouths shut about his involvement in the treason and the obstruction of justice. And by "everyone" I mean Trump.

But will Trump go gently into the goodnight of being a private citizen again. He may be vain and senile, but he is cunning enough to realize that he has been duped--and con artists like Donald Trump hate being duped.

I expect things to get ugly between Trump and Pence in the near future. I would not be at all surprised if Trump takes a page from the Pence playbook and starts playing dumb, as in "It was all Pence's idea."

[furtheradu]

1. Brilliant!

I think You nailed it!

[leanforward]

2. I'm with you on this.

I've not trusted Pence for some time. Especially with regards to women. I don't believe Pence, and haven't believed him for several years.

I am a loyal citizen/american/patriot in opposition to pRezident dRumpf and any GOP lemming.

Follow the money. US banks don't loan him anything. Why do the Russians? dRumpf says he is not "invested in russian", but are they 'heavily' invested in his business LLC's?

[Spider Jerusalem]

3. Pence pretty clearly expects to be president if he keeps his head down

it's hard to imagine any other reason for a sitting VP to start a new PAC three months into his president's first term.

[PufPuf23]

4. Your theory makes much sense.

Some ways I trust Pence even less than Trump. Pence is a more capable political animal and more the ideologue. Trump is way more transparent and wishy-washy because of his raw ego. Both are creeps.

[alcibiades_mystery]

5. Next time, use "Deputy Attorney General" rather than "Assistant Attorney General"

It's an accuracy thing.

[Phoenix61]

6. Because God wants him to make this a righteous country

Oh yeah, I can so see him thinking he is the annointed one. He's going to have a hard time explaining Cummings letter but it sure will be fun watching him try.

[obliviously]

7. Since this Trump has come along nothing has ever turned out the way we thought it should

Not once.

[MyNameIsKhan]

8. Real life house of cards ... I agree this is ultimate goal

[Bernardo de La Paz]

9. Could be. . . . nt

[BigmanPigman]

10. The Donald will throw anybody under the bus as self preservation.

It doesn't matter who it is (except Kushner and Ivanka). He has no loyalties and will drag our entire country down with him.

[canetoad]

11. That's a real possibility

And one that I hadn't considered. I don't believe that Trump will go quietly, by resignation or impeachment. He will fight, unreasonably to the end and as the inevitable looms, will wreak revenge in the only way he can; bring everyone else down too.

Good thinking!

[moonscape]

12. I'm not so sure. Two people who have the most to lose

by an investigation are T and Jared. Their financial crimes are likely even deeper and more astonishing than we can imagine. They would reveal such layers of corruption and incompetence that they had serious stress over it.

T has felt dogged by this stuff for quite a while, intensifying as the spotlight came on him during the election season. He wanted it to go away, and when he couldn't get Comey to back off, his justified paranoid took off. The reports that he was raging are credible, also that Jared was pushing on firing Comey - because Jared knows he could be in big trouble.

Frankly, I think Pence was sitting comfortably in the corner eating popcorn.

[NoveltySocks]

13. It kind of seems like he (or others on "Team Pence") might be making moves behind the scenes

I hadn't thought about Pence being the one making the recommendation, but it wouldn't surprise me (though I'm not sure anything would at this point, tbh).

I've thought all along that Trump would take as many others as he can if he's forced out.

I wonder if the Bannon/Mercer/Not Pence wing had a mole at that GOP meeting with McCarthy, Ryan and the rest of that group last summer (and likely other gatherings). Maybe it was leaked as a warning? I guess it's less likely since Trump was named in McCarthy's "joke" about Russian payments, but maybe it's become clear that he's doomed and he's letting them know that if his family goes down, so does theirs. This is me assuming that Pence is Ryan's guy, and that Ryan's "family" might be helping put the Pence plan into action.