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liberal N proud

(60,332 posts)
Sat May 20, 2017, 08:05 AM May 2017

Here is an example of ignorant voters in Ohio

What would it take for Vinton County Trump backers to stop supporting him? Nuclear war, perhaps:

McARTHUR, Ohio--President Donald Trump is under increasing fire following his dismissal of FBI Director James Comey and his disclosure of top-secret Israeli intelligence to Russian officials.

But in rural Vinton County, many Trump voters say it would take a lot more than that - blatant corruption, nuclear war, or even their own deaths - for them to stop supporting the president.

In Ohio's least populous and nearly poorest county, Trump supporters aren't fazed by Trump firing Comey after Trump told Comey he hoped the director would shut down an investigation into his former national security adviser, Michael Flynn. They think Democrats and the media are overplaying reports that Trump disclosed top-secret intelligence from Israel to Russian officials.

They feel Republicans and Democrats alike aren't giving the president much of a chance to do his job.

"That's just people trying to get Trump in trouble and get him out of office [to] put somebody else that's going to bend over and kiss the government's rear end even more," said Austin Williams, a 21-year-old Trump voter from McArthur. "I just think, let the man stay in office and do his job, and next time the elections are, when it comes to voting, vote for somebody else if you don't like Trump's way."

Williams, who works as a mystery shopper for Goodwill Industries, said he doubts Trump shared classified information with the Russians (though Trump himself has admitted it). Told that the intelligence was about a threat from the Islamic State, Williams said, "that's just old news."

http://www.cleveland.com/politics/index.ssf/2017/05/post_9.html

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Here is an example of ignorant voters in Ohio (Original Post) liberal N proud May 2017 OP
That is why I refuse to converse HAB911 May 2017 #1
The "Critical Thinking Reduction" plan is paying off! Beartracks May 2017 #2
Ignorance compounded by stupidity BSdetect May 2017 #3
This explanation is basically word for word Rush' s show kacekwl May 2017 #4
Thier daily hate is coming to them. They are not coming up with these opinions after carefully lunasun May 2017 #27
To change this pattern we must find a way to stop the propaganda when we get power next time! Dustlawyer May 2017 #46
Key Words - "Ohio's least populous and nearly poorest county" n2doc May 2017 #5
Ohio is incredibly church-poisoned and racist. HughBeaumont May 2017 #6
Trump, realized how stupid millions of Americans are and used them for their vote. They are the RKP5637 May 2017 #7
Kool aid swilling Deplorables wear ignorance like a badge of honor. nt oasis May 2017 #8
ooj isn't blatant corruption ?!? uponit7771 May 2017 #9
i know D_Master81 May 2017 #10
They are like the Manson​ family Danmel May 2017 #11
The interviewee "works as a mystery shopper for Goodwill Industries" Tanuki May 2017 #12
He's not the problem. SonofDonald May 2017 #18
If you voted for racists trump you are a deplorable POS just like him... stonecutter357 May 2017 #19
If you think everyone who voted for Trump is a deplorable POS... EL34x4 May 2017 #50
i KNOW everyone who voted for Trump is a deplorable POS stonecutter357 May 2017 #60
Well I guess it good I didn't vote for 45 then. SonofDonald May 2017 #64
Let's just look the other way about his probable racism and misogyny, because KingCharlemagne May 2017 #24
Well-said. n/t EL34x4 May 2017 #52
Oh, for GOD'S SAKE. NO CRAP "they have a right to their opinions." BUT THEIR OPINIONS ARE PIG- WinkyDink May 2017 #58
Agreed. My thought as well. Nt mrs_p May 2017 #20
I shop at goodwill all the time and most are not impaired. Yes they hire disabled but a mystery lunasun May 2017 #32
He says the ISIS intel give away is just "old news". Another uninformed trumpster... brush May 2017 #40
He's a nutter but that doesn't mean they are all low functioning or mentally impaired as was implied lunasun May 2017 #45
He looks like a product of inbreeding wolfie001 May 2017 #41
Isn't Goodwill Industries just another pay rich white people, exploit disabled and poor LakeArenal May 2017 #44
Yep both moves play to his base. ucrdem May 2017 #13
Fox News appreciates their loyalty. Barack_America May 2017 #14
and talk radio! at $1000/hr it's worth $5BIL/yr certainot May 2017 #56
Ignorance + incompetent 'citizens.' irisblue May 2017 #15
Why Let Facts Get in the Way of Your Beliefs? dlk May 2017 #16
Dumb X1000 colsohlibgal May 2017 #17
No Internet, but Everyone has Dish Network and FOX Nuze here! mackdaddy May 2017 #21
Lots and lots of stupid out there. Bleacher Creature May 2017 #22
Why any reporter thinks they'll find a Trump supporter who admits they're wrong is beyond me. WhiskeyGrinder May 2017 #23
AGREED! bresue May 2017 #28
The brainwashing is 95% irreversible. They're not worth the effort dalton99a May 2017 #25
Not true. I did a research paper on this in the 90s. Removal from their control elements is needed. TheBlackAdder May 2017 #51
A research paper is, as you know, not reality. Since before Barry Goldwater and the John WinkyDink May 2017 #59
That's the dilemma. It takes 20 years (one generation) to shift and legitimize a position. TheBlackAdder May 2017 #68
Seems all the smart people in that county. . . DinahMoeHum May 2017 #26
i know the area well and it is just Western WV or Northern KY Botany May 2017 #29
It will take time to deprogram PatSeg May 2017 #30
Don't worry. Same said for Nixon in 1974. american_ideals May 2017 #31
Yes, it's a type of stupidity that seems to afflict certain groups in every generation. If Ryan cuts anneboleyn May 2017 #54
What's a "mystery shopper?" nt LAS14 May 2017 #33
It's kind of like being a top secret spy. smirkymonkey May 2017 #37
You visit various locations of the store chain with a check list of items to rate the store lunasun May 2017 #39
Well his photo is published so there goes the mystery part. Derp. elehhhhna May 2017 #67
corporate spy crazycatlady May 2017 #66
Trump voters are Silly Putty and Trump is the Sunday morning comic section Mr. Ected May 2017 #34
Trump supporters are ignorant trash nt geek tragedy May 2017 #35
Democracy is frustrating...that your vote is considered equal to the vote of such a low end moron... Lucky Luciano May 2017 #36
The Democratic Party videohead5 May 2017 #38
typical heaven05 May 2017 #42
It's moments like this I remember that famous quote: wolfie001 May 2017 #43
I dunno, I think it's good to cover people like this Goodwill guy MountCleaners May 2017 #47
He doesn't understand LittleGirl May 2017 #48
In the land of denial WellDarn May 2017 #49
white women heaven05 May 2017 #53
THIS WellDarn May 2017 #63
"kiss the government's ass" vlyons May 2017 #55
Austin Williams turbinetree May 2017 #57
Willful ignorance is willful. Solly Mack May 2017 #61
Trump voters support treason and love Russia more than their own country nt maryellen99 May 2017 #62
must be the sister county of Mercer County, MO pstokely May 2017 #65

kacekwl

(7,013 posts)
4. This explanation is basically word for word Rush' s show
Sat May 20, 2017, 08:16 AM
May 2017

daily. Along with Hannity and the others you know where they get this belief.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
27. Thier daily hate is coming to them. They are not coming up with these opinions after carefully
Sat May 20, 2017, 09:40 AM
May 2017

reading what yes 'gibermint' officials are saying about Russia or researching what has been going on with Trump . This is told to them by thier trusted sirens . Assume asking them to think about some of the evidence might make them think twice.?
No IMO it will make them double down dig their heels in they will not let go of their trump .

Dustlawyer

(10,494 posts)
46. To change this pattern we must find a way to stop the propaganda when we get power next time!
Sat May 20, 2017, 10:35 AM
May 2017

We can start by attacking the media that is doing this disservice to these people who are un-educated or refuse to independently check what they hear. We must save them from their own ignorance and stupidity! We must fight for the FCC to require truth in the news like we used to have to a much greater degree.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
5. Key Words - "Ohio's least populous and nearly poorest county"
Sat May 20, 2017, 08:19 AM
May 2017

For now, we need to work on other, more persuadable folks. These ones are lost to the RW propaganda machine.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
6. Ohio is incredibly church-poisoned and racist.
Sat May 20, 2017, 08:21 AM
May 2017

Even much of the Northeastern suburbs are homogeneous and quite right-wing.

Years of tax-cuttin' guvs and a 20-year streak of Republican state legislature control has destroyed the educational system here and it shows.

RKP5637

(67,086 posts)
7. Trump, realized how stupid millions of Americans are and used them for their vote. They are the
Sat May 20, 2017, 08:22 AM
May 2017

gift that just keeps giving, and they love to be punished.

D_Master81

(1,822 posts)
10. i know
Sat May 20, 2017, 08:25 AM
May 2017

i know people that i dont think there's anything that would keep them from supporting him. i saw a post from 1 on facebook say he would rather have trump colluding w/ russians than democrats (who he said were trying to ruin the country).

Tanuki

(14,914 posts)
12. The interviewee "works as a mystery shopper for Goodwill Industries"
Sat May 20, 2017, 08:27 AM
May 2017

They are known for hiring the disabled. Much as I hate Trump, Williams is probably quite limited and making him the focus of contempt and derision is plucking low hanging fruit. It should have been obvious to the reporter.

SonofDonald

(2,050 posts)
18. He's not the problem.
Sat May 20, 2017, 08:57 AM
May 2017

Everyone has a right to vote for who they want, even if we feel it's wrong, I have lifelong friends that voted for 45 and can't see why "People just don't get over it, he won, get over it".

I don't argue with them, I don't talk about politics with them, they have a right to their opinions same as me, I just hope they see the truth someday.

And this man interviewed for the article, he has a job, he's not sitting at home bitching about how the democrats have ruined the world, he's actually trying to improve his.

I'm physically disabled due to beating the crap out of my body pushing crab pots for a decade, I know how it feels to start at the bottom of the food chain, this man has pride and should not be looked down at because he's not you or me or we don't agree with him.

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
50. If you think everyone who voted for Trump is a deplorable POS...
Sat May 20, 2017, 10:43 AM
May 2017

...and treat them as such, don't be surprised to find yourself drowning your sorrows after the 2018 and 2020 elections.

Contempt towards white, blue-collar voters (many of whom voted for Obama in 2008 and 2012) cost us four key states. Probably not a great idea to double-down on it.

SonofDonald

(2,050 posts)
64. Well I guess it good I didn't vote for 45 then.
Sat May 20, 2017, 02:16 PM
May 2017

It's just my opinion, and I can have whatever one I want correct?.

I just don't think that treating these people like crap or talking down to them will get us anywhere, because that just completes the circle and nothing is solved, nothing.

It seems calm reasoned debate of the issues or problems we see isn't an option anymore, and here I thought that this place above all would be hoping to return to that.

I guess I was wrong, good luck with all the attitude, you'll need it.

And I've always thought that to hate someone you have to know them first, I don't hate 45 but I do think he's given enough reason for us to, I just think there's enough hate in the world already.

There are a few people in the news lately I'd really like to punch square in the nose as hard as I can, but it won't solve anything, no names of course but you know who I mean.

But I see that pointing fingers at each other and being unable to agree on anything will never lead to what should be the way get along.

I thought faux news was the one inciting hate and distrust of each other, they made political difference into hate, distrust, violence and a huge void between us by telling their viewers to act and feel that way about someone with beliefs not the party line they excrete.

But I guess they aren't alone.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
24. Let's just look the other way about his probable racism and misogyny, because
Sat May 20, 2017, 09:25 AM
May 2017

everyone has a right to his or her opinion, right? Right?????

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
58. Oh, for GOD'S SAKE. NO CRAP "they have a right to their opinions." BUT THEIR OPINIONS ARE PIG-
Sat May 20, 2017, 12:04 PM
May 2017

IGNORANT, refusing facts right in front of their faces.

This man's "pride" has helped bring this nation and its people to a level of poverty, lack of health care, ignorance, hatred, bigotry, and TREASON not heretofore experienced by us.

F. HIM.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
32. I shop at goodwill all the time and most are not impaired. Yes they hire disabled but a mystery
Sat May 20, 2017, 09:54 AM
May 2017

shopper I don't think would be one of the positions suited for what you are implying . Weird assumptions based on his looks is trump like.

He is appropriately dressed for a mystery shopper job at goodwill
The comments attributed to him are no different or limited than the typical trump voter and he expressed a thought clearer than trump sometimes does


"That's just people trying to get Trump in trouble and get him out of office put somebody else that's going to bend over and kiss the government's rear end even more," said Austin Williams, a 21-year-old Trump voter from McArthur. "I just think, let the man stay in office and do his job, and next time the elections are, when it comes to voting, vote for somebody else if you don't like Trump's way."

Williams, who works as a mystery shopper for Goodwill Industries, said he doubts Trump shared classified information with the Russians (though Trump himself has admitted it). Told that the intelligence was about a threat from the Islamic State, Williams said, "that's just old news."

brush

(53,741 posts)
40. He says the ISIS intel give away is just "old news". Another uninformed trumpster...
Sat May 20, 2017, 10:21 AM
May 2017

add all the other low-info adjectives to that as well.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
45. He's a nutter but that doesn't mean they are all low functioning or mentally impaired as was implied
Sat May 20, 2017, 10:29 AM
May 2017

And not even sure how the picture is suppose to enhance that theory that he is "disabled"
Stupid low info nutters yes I get that of course

LakeArenal

(28,802 posts)
44. Isn't Goodwill Industries just another pay rich white people, exploit disabled and poor
Sat May 20, 2017, 10:28 AM
May 2017

Seems they use loopholes to pay disabled people less, while coporate reaps the profits.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-hrabe/the-worst-corporation-in-_b_1876905.html

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
13. Yep both moves play to his base.
Sat May 20, 2017, 08:31 AM
May 2017

And if he was looking for some bold moves to brag about in 2020, seeing how his wall looks to be DOA, his timing was good, as they'll soon be overtaken by his international photo ops and by 2020 Comey and the intel contretemps will have receded into the long ago.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
56. and talk radio! at $1000/hr it's worth $5BIL/yr
Sat May 20, 2017, 11:34 AM
May 2017

i would just like to suggest liberals who blame fox give some blame to talk radio too, which dominates messaging in 40 states with 80 senators and unlike fox, is more capable of undetected unchallenged lying, racism, and hate and is coordinated locally and to the state level.

at a cheap $1000/hr x 15hrs/day x 5 = $75,000/wk x 1200 stations rw talk radio is worth $18MIL/day or 390MIL$ /month or 4.68 BIL$/ year FREE for coordinated global warming denial, pro republican free market deregulation and wall st think tank propaganda, swiftboating, and the hate and fear used to get people to vote republican.

where limbaugh and sons make excuses for trump all day, reaching 50mil a week.

the local saturday morning guy is attacking the media in defense of trump. he is really an ignorant fool who in no way reflects the intelligence level or sentiment of the avg citizen within the range of the monster limbaugh station he's on. he's there because he reinforces limbaugh and the other national liars on 1200 stations around the country and democrats and liberals have completely ignored that propaganda operation.

my state is one of the lucky states where there are 2!!! liberal talk stations - but their signals are small compared to the one mentioned above, which reaches 5 states and more at night and is associated with/endorsed by the state's major university sports program. colorado finally got one liberal station after many years without, they went blue and legalized pot, and then the liberal station was shut down.

and my low power liberal station here has a national weekend show is doing a program on immigration that completely ignores what rw radio has been doing by design and strongly for at least since bush rove took the white house - vilifying mexican immigrants to help the GOP sell voter suppression legislation, walls, and more prisons.

irisblue

(32,929 posts)
15. Ignorance + incompetent 'citizens.'
Sat May 20, 2017, 08:39 AM
May 2017

I am sorry I read the comment section. The misspellings and sheer ignorance were horrific.

dlk

(11,512 posts)
16. Why Let Facts Get in the Way of Your Beliefs?
Sat May 20, 2017, 08:50 AM
May 2017

Some Americans/Republicans are too rigid in their thinking to be able to process new information. If they don't already know something, it's not worth knowing, and they can't adjust their perspective. Some would rather die than change their minds.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
17. Dumb X1000
Sat May 20, 2017, 08:57 AM
May 2017

They vote directly against their own personal interest and for the benefit of ultra rich people and corporations. Also for polluting their water, air, and food.

The maternal side of my family lived in Gallia County Ohio and fit the profile. So do the vast majority of folks in the absolute poorest county in Ohio , Brown County.

It boggles the mind.

mackdaddy

(1,522 posts)
21. No Internet, but Everyone has Dish Network and FOX Nuze here!
Sat May 20, 2017, 09:10 AM
May 2017

I live in this general area. Outside of the small towns, no one has internet service other than dial up. But literally everyone has satellite TV, and even the least expensive package includes FOX Nuze. We get at most one or two over the air tv stations, so Dish or Direct TV is it. We do get AM stations out of Columbus which are all Rush Limpballs stations.

Another thing is that the economic "recovery" never actually reached these areas, much like the nearby rust belt region. Mining and the small manufacturing that used to be in the area are gone. Very poor and very expensive health care here. Heroin and meth are a big problem. The area is about 95% white too.

I do not talk politics with very many here. It used to be about 50/50 but has changed to probably 70/30 repub in the last decade. Brainwashing propaganda works. Everything was Killary was going to take out gunz and kill the babies. Trump was a good (white?) business man that was going to get us jobs. GOTV calls this past election were not very fun.

I'm going to go sit on the front porch and learn the banjo....

bresue

(1,007 posts)
28. AGREED!
Sat May 20, 2017, 09:42 AM
May 2017

And at this point, Rublicans are digging their feet in. To my observation, because I am around a lot of hard core Rublicans, it is more like supporting their favorite sports team. Regardless of how bad their sports team is doing, hard core will continue to support their team. They may grumble and argue about individual team players...but they will never drop their team. Until the public sees this as American's team...versus Russia's team...I don't see their stance changing.

TheBlackAdder

(28,167 posts)
51. Not true. I did a research paper on this in the 90s. Removal from their control elements is needed.
Sat May 20, 2017, 10:44 AM
May 2017

.


Most people who are subject to "brainwashing" return to normalcy when they are removed from the agents that are controlling them. For Republicans, this could be their peer groups, church, family or information sources. I lean on their information sources first, since they are the primary drivers of slowly creeping political attitude changes.


People do not swiftly change their political views very often. It is more a slowly advancing position, which allows them to hold beliefs that they legitimize. Without legitimacy, all of it crumbles. The problem is, how does one delegitimize the effects of RW propaganda, especially where there isn't a counterweight present? The old concern of MSNBC being on higher tier cable offerings poses a problem. However, now that MSNBC is swinging to the right, that might be a moot point in a few years. Without left-leaning media, that is on basic subscription tiers, it is a hopeless effort.


If there were offerings, it might be successful to concentrate on suburban metropolitan centers of each state first, then slowly expand outward to the more rural areas of the country.


.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
59. A research paper is, as you know, not reality. Since before Barry Goldwater and the John
Sat May 20, 2017, 12:10 PM
May 2017

Birch Society, these "brainwashed" jerks have been voting against the interests of the majority of Americans.

There exists no way to "remove them from their control elements," in Research Paper jargon.

IOW: Who is the Liberal billionaire who is going to buy up the airwaves to offer a counter-brainwashing message over the next HALF-CENTURY?

DinahMoeHum

(21,774 posts)
26. Seems all the smart people in that county. . .
Sat May 20, 2017, 09:37 AM
May 2017

. . .have left for better opportunities elsewhere. Columbus and Cincinnati are not that far away, and there's Athens, home to Ohio U.

Google map it.

Botany

(70,447 posts)
29. i know the area well and it is just Western WV or Northern KY
Sat May 20, 2017, 09:51 AM
May 2017

Pretty country but filled w/dumb fucks. Many have moved to Columbus for work
over time but get a beer or two in them and they are n****r this and n****r that
and we won the election because we stopped that d**e b***h Hillary.

Their minds are so warped that bad news about Trump and Russia just proves to
them that "the liberals" are out to get them.

Rush, Fox, and their pastors have filled their minds w/hate.

PatSeg

(47,260 posts)
30. It will take time to deprogram
Sat May 20, 2017, 09:51 AM
May 2017

Trump supporters. I saw the same thing with Nixon and Watergate. Some will never change, but others will gradually and quietly let it go. A few will be openly outraged that they were duped.

american_ideals

(613 posts)
31. Don't worry. Same said for Nixon in 1974.
Sat May 20, 2017, 09:52 AM
May 2017
https://psmag.com/news/trumps-supporters-still-support-trump-so-what

It's worth reading the linked NYT article from 1974 too.

In June of 1974, with the Watergate scandal exploding and President Richard Nixon’s approval ratings in the high 20s, the New York Timesran an article that interviewed rural, conservative whites in Holdrege, Nebraska, about their feelings toward the president. These respondents were fierce supporters of Nixon and did not like the way the political system was treating him. The quotes may sound familiar today:

“I CAN’T BELIEVE THERE’S ONE DIRTY THING WRONG WITH RICHARD NIXON…. SOME PEOPLE DID SOME AWFUL WRONG THINGS AT WATERGATE, BUT YOU’LL NEVER CONVINCE ME THAT NIXON KNEW OF THEM. NOW YOU TALK ABOUT DISHONESTY. WHAT ABOUT ALL THOSE VOTES THE DEMOCRATS ALWAYS STEAL IN CHICAGO?”
“I’M JUST NOT GOING TO BELIEVE THE PRESIDENT IS WRONG UNTIL HE’S CONVICTED. I DON’T HAVE THAT MUCH FAITH IN THE NEWS MEDIA ANY MORE.”
“YOU CAN SEE THE GLEAM IN THOSE TV REPORTERS’ EYES WHEN THEY HAVE BAD NEWS.”
“I CAN’T UNDERSTAND WHY SOME PEOPLE SUDDENLY EXPECT POLITICS TO BE CONDUCTED IN A CHURCH-LIKE ATMOSPHERE. IT NEVER HAS BEEN BEFORE.”
“THOSE EASTERN LIBERALS, TRY TO MAKE THEIR POLITICAL BELIEFS SEEM SO SOPHISTICATED JUST BECAUSE THEY’RE LIBERAL, BUT THEY BLAST AND NIT‐PICK SO MUCH IT SOUNDS LIKE PROPAGANDA NOW.”

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
54. Yes, it's a type of stupidity that seems to afflict certain groups in every generation. If Ryan cuts
Sat May 20, 2017, 11:11 AM
May 2017

their Medicare and Medicaid and food stamps and so on they will probably start to notice but even then they might not blame Trump. Honestly these people (like the Nixon-lovers) are not going to be swayed by rational arguments. They want a cult leader who gives them the feelz and gives them sad, meaningless ways and verbal vomit slogans ("lock her up&quot to feel like their lives are better than they really are -- of course Trump won't do shit for them.

Trump allows them to fantasize about what being a "tough billionaire" would be like -- they watch the Apprentice and don't understand the difference between the carefully crafted image for television and the reality of the absolutely pathetic traitor, the little cowardly man, who has lived a life without consequences and of no consequence until he decided to rape the country and the office of the presidency in the Oval Office. This man will without question be rated as the most hated and worst prez in US history. They can hold on to their fantasies then if they still find them comforting.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
39. You visit various locations of the store chain with a check list of items to rate the store
Sat May 20, 2017, 10:11 AM
May 2017

Are the bathrooms clean?the items placed as corporation asks? The store clerks show courtesy
did they have a name tag on !wearing the company shirt. What was the name on the tag or if no tag describe the person who did not have the tag or did not show courtesy , did they say what ever tag line they are suppose to say to customers when ending a sale etc.
The store thinks you are an everyday shopper and you cannot reveal you are amystery shopper no matter how bad you have been treated or how poor service you see.
then you enter all your answers into a computer program the company provides at home or at a site and these undercover ops are used by the company to make sure all stores meet comform to the corp standard , and of course for ratings and appraisals
I should be able to walk into any goodwill and expect to find a similiar store to what is expected based on my past experience at another one, give or take a little I think you get the idea

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
66. corporate spy
Sat May 20, 2017, 02:50 PM
May 2017

Basically there to judge low-level employees and get them written up if they don't follow company protocol 100% on the transaction.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
34. Trump voters are Silly Putty and Trump is the Sunday morning comic section
Sat May 20, 2017, 10:03 AM
May 2017

They bear his image but in a highly inarticulate way. They are substance without intellect. They are malleable and can bounce from place to place without clarity. And they can be re-formed at will by their handlers.


Lucky Luciano

(11,248 posts)
36. Democracy is frustrating...that your vote is considered equal to the vote of such a low end moron...
Sat May 20, 2017, 10:08 AM
May 2017

(not really democracy - a republic...I know....and the votes are not exactly equal due to electoral college - I know).

videohead5

(2,165 posts)
38. The Democratic Party
Sat May 20, 2017, 10:10 AM
May 2017

Needs to go into these urban areas and help people get their voter ID's.If we can limit any 3rd party we will win.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
42. typical
Sat May 20, 2017, 10:27 AM
May 2017

of his rabid, racist, bigoted hardcore(many millions) base. Not surprising.

Yet any country that can start out by perpetrating genocide against the Native-americans, burning witches and having slavery of Africans as one of it's institutions and encouraging(fox snooze, rw radio et al.) it's continuing hate, it can be, NOT SURPRISING.

wolfie001

(2,201 posts)
43. It's moments like this I remember that famous quote:
Sat May 20, 2017, 10:27 AM
May 2017

"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill

MountCleaners

(1,148 posts)
47. I dunno, I think it's good to cover people like this Goodwill guy
Sat May 20, 2017, 10:36 AM
May 2017

This is NOT how the majority of Trump supporters see themselves. It's embarrassing to them.

LittleGirl

(8,279 posts)
48. He doesn't understand
Sat May 20, 2017, 10:36 AM
May 2017

he's just repeating what Roger Ailes and Bill O'Reilly told him. Fox Spews is probably big in that county because seriously, what else is there to do?

 

WellDarn

(255 posts)
49. In the land of denial
Sat May 20, 2017, 10:39 AM
May 2017

This is the guy who gets blamed for Trump's win (as the words "least populated" gets swept under the rug) while no explanation is offered for why a substantial majority of upper middle class white women (singled out because upper middle class white men are a lost cause), the largest single voting demographic, rejected what we were selling.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
53. white women
Sat May 20, 2017, 11:01 AM
May 2017

as a whole 53.4%, voted for this disaster. That includes all classes of white women, single, married, middle class. Yet 43% voted for HRC, gives me hope and many of them are here....

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
55. "kiss the government's ass"
Sat May 20, 2017, 11:27 AM
May 2017

That is the dualistic mindset that always needs an enemy bogeyman to explain why their lives don't work. We are the gov. This is a democracy, or at least it's supposed to be. It is we the people, of the people, by the people, for the people. But it is next to impossible to breakthru' to these numbskulls, because they always need an enemy.

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57. Austin Williams
Sat May 20, 2017, 11:56 AM
May 2017

"That's just people trying to get Trump in trouble and get him out of office put somebody else that's going to bend over and kiss the government's rear end even more," said Austin Williams, a 21-year-old Trump voter from McArthur. "I just think, let the man stay in office and do his job, and next time the elections are, when it comes to voting, vote for somebody else if you don't like Trump's way."

First, and foremost, Williams, he (the sexual predator) put himself into this "trouble" that you call it, I didn't ask him to, and neither did the 65 million voters that voted against him.

And as a reminder, if your local newspaper or tv news never reported this, lets take you back to what you voted for along with the 62 million just like yourself, you own him and he owns you








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