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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWe need to understand a political reality.
That, no matter how much evidence is placed in front of them, 35-40% of total voters will still support him. It doesn't matter if there is video evidence showing the President "obstructing justice" with his very own words. They believe nothing from the "mainstream media".
We are not going to persuade these people to believe any evidence that we may show them. That is a sad reality of politics of America today. There is not going to be any over-whelming majority to impeach Donald Trump, no matter how much evidence is gathered against him. As he said on the campaign trail, he could shoot someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue and he would not lose one supporter. That is the reality.
dlk
(11,561 posts)It seems that too many Americans/Republicans require someone to hate and the current Republican Party effectively and efficiently fills that need. These are people who don't respond to facts, or logic, or reason, and lack any compassion for others. It's more important for them to be right and get their way. It would be a much better investment of time and energy to register voters and work against voter suppression laws than attempt to change their minds.
RDANGELO
(3,433 posts)The Republicans risk is that they become so alienated from the rest of society that the 35% becomes their ceiling. That what can happen when your party becomes a cult full of non critical thinking people.
RKP5637
(67,107 posts)erroneous beliefs. And, there is "big money" made by some by promoting this crap ... hate radio/tv/internet, all the hate jocks.
Freddie
(9,265 posts)Gerrymandering and the nature of the Senate and the EC which give outsized power to low populated states, they can have 35% popularity and still be in power. Make it harder to vote to clinch the deal.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)a "floor" of 17-20% of voters.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)and making sure they can and do vote.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)Freddie
(9,265 posts)They get their "news" from Fox, Breitbart, Drudge, etc. and have a completely warped view of the world and accept this as 100% truth. They think Wapo and Time are "slanted leftist rags". It's like they're speaking and thinking in another language.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)The data suggests up to thirty percent of Americans exhibit authoritarian tendencies. That's his floor.
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)any criminal investigation and proceedings. They can't save him now. They are horribly outnumbered anyway.
THAT is reality.
End of.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,703 posts)conducting a fair and productive investigation. Once you accept the fact that they are committed to getting their way at all costs, there is one thing that will finally sink in. These people have no character or integrity. They should not be allowed to dirty the waters.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029088193
Enoki33
(1,587 posts)and the media, but between America and trump. We have to hammer home the fact that every step of the way trump has chosen himself and his family over America. Patriotism is a powerful reality combined with the conman factor. Nobody likes to be deceived.
DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)As the Captain said: "Some men you just can't reach"
Tatiana
(14,167 posts)Out of nearly a dozen semi-rational candidates, this is the trash that happened to rise to the Republican nomination. The people who voted for them don't care about their country, their fellow man or woman, or anyone other than their racist/sexist/whatever-ist beliefs and themselves.
They are members of a cult and would be willing to follow their "leader" much like Branch Davidians.
They are dangerous and we must understand that we cannot "reason" with these people. We have to view them as a threat to our democracy that must be vanquished.
MedusaX
(1,129 posts)Then promptly build a fucking bridge and get over it.
It is what it is... they are who they are
In the long run it makes no difference...
unless people allow 'the mystery of the 45 Kool-Aid Cult' to become an obstacle to moving forward...
It would be wise to
Leave the analysis of their behavior & cognitive processes to the historians and researchers of the future....
In order to do that, there must be a focus on ensuring that there will be a future in which historians and researchers are still free to pursue such inquiries.
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)That's probably the kind of floor we'd be looking at again. Maybe we could get it down to 20% given that a foreign government is involved, but probably only if the GOP switch allegiances too.
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)They just hate liberals more.