IMO, The whining about the electoral college is missing the real problem, the census.

[CK_John]

As part of Trump's swamp the government the funds to get ready for 2020 census are being withheld.

Also one of the problems for the RW is non citizens get counted which controls the Congressional District size of the 435 seats.

Start calling your local Congress member any start bugging them about preparing for the census.

Read More:

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/06/us-house-takes-its-whacks-planning-2020-census-and-monthly-survey

https://thecensusproject.org/2015/06/03/gone-fishin-come-find-me-in-2021/


Census Director Resigns, Trouble Ahead

By Phil Sparks

You would not have thought that the same week Washington-based media was focused on the firing of FBI Director Comey, the abrupt resignation of Census Bureau Director John Thompson would have garnered much press attention – but it did!

In editorials and news articles, the media decried the Thompson resignation, rightfully so.

Director Thompson’s sudden resignation leaves the Census Bureau leaderless just as Congress has dramatically underfunded the FY 2017 census budget, and as the Trump administration only proposes increasing the bureau’s FY 2018 budget by $30 million.

Let’s hope reality sets in with the Trump administration. As the Washington Post editorial concludes, “the 2020 Census will begin in April of that year – right in the middle of the primary season. The bureau’s troubles pre-date Mr. Trump’s ascension but the census is happening on his watch. If it fails, he will own it.”
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Posted on May 15, 2017 by The Census Project

[Tanuki]

1. I wouldn't call concerns about the EC "whining" by any means,

but I do agree about the looming census crisis.

[no_hypocrisy]

2. The Constitutional 3/5 fraction was all about the Census.

Southern states wanted it both ways: for their slaves not to be considered citizens, let alone "persons" but the slaves to be fully counted for the census.

The North feared that the exaggerated count would lead to southern dominance in representation in Congress and thus the 3/5 "compromise" was incorporated into the Constitution until the 14th Amendment.

[rufus dog]

3. The whining about the EC isn't what you think.

Repubs don't want to get rid of the EC, they want to change how votes are allocated.

This is what they believe: (YES - THEY REALLY BELIEVE THIS BULLSHIT)

Republicans in large states like CA and NY are disenfranchised. Millions of them vote for a republican candidate yet no EVs are awarded to the Repub.

To fix this the states should split the EV based on the % of votes.

Now a logical conclusion would be just to eliminate the EV, go with popular vote like all other democracies.

But here is the hitch, they don't want that, they want EVs split in states like CA, NY, IL, but leave the winner take all in the other states. There is no logic to the proposal, other than thinking liberal voters shouldn't count. For example, they won't argue for % allocation in the five or ten largest states then winner take all in the rest. Because TX would be included in that scenario and they want TX winner take all. (Until the demos change and then they won't want that anymore)

[CK_John]

4. I think the EC is not understood. The census sets the number of people will be in a district.

I believe it is currently at 710,500 people per district... So every district is the same, so what is the problem.

Every district in the country are equal. In addition each state get 2 EC votes.

How the map is drawn for those districts is a function of the state, but that is not an EC problem.

Who gets to vote in each state is a function of the state, not an EC problem.

How committed each electors votes is also function of the state, not an EC problem.

So why waste time trying to change/elimate the constitution,
for a state problem.