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Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
Sat May 20, 2017, 08:11 PM May 2017

When situations are fast-moving and tactical in nature, take raw intel for what it is. Don't mistake

Protip: When situations are fast-moving and tactical in nature, take raw intel for what it is. Don't mistake for analyzed/finished work.

Also, when things are super important and moving quick, don't spend time lashing out at sources if they miss a detail. Assess. Move forward.

Moreover: intelligence is a team sport. Different skillsets come together in real time. No one source knows everything - nor one analyst.

Fake News (or propaganda) is the mass repetition of a single lie. This is different than "Hey, it looks like - Oh wait, stand down."

Momentary mistaken observations or the need to cross-check intel with a subject-matter-expert is not the same as being reckless/fraudulent

Compare the above tactical intelligence practices with journalism. Both deal with information, but goals are very different by nature.

With regards to the nascent culture of Impeachment Twitter, think of the updates here as raw intel and journalists as finished intel.

For contrast, see what real Deza/Fake News looks like, exposed by @RVAwonk
(Story about Seth Rich)

Deza/Fake News is a coordinated attempt to distract the public from truthful (not perfect) narratives. It is not about "mistakes."

Deza/Fake News is the pounding of a single bullshit story in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Debate never entertained.

To sum up: you may see updates on a fast-moving situation. Seek confirmation. Use skepticism. Challenge your assumptions! And stay sharp




I thought I'd share this guy's great take on situation we are in.




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When situations are fast-moving and tactical in nature, take raw intel for what it is. Don't mistake (Original Post) Madam45for2923 May 2017 OP
. Madam45for2923 May 2017 #1
KICKIN with thanks! furtheradu May 2017 #2
I know, right!!! Madam45for2923 May 2017 #3
Where would the information that "the Supreme Court notified Mr. Trump Demit May 2017 #4
What an excellent & sane ppost. Def something to remember. mhw May 2017 #5
Sane common sense! Madam45for2923 May 2017 #6
More of this, less of Mr. Ected May 2017 #7
Yes! Thank You! & Please feel free to share. Madam45for2923 May 2017 #8
Excellent, level-headed advice. GliderGuider May 2017 #9
K&R liberalla May 2017 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Madam45for2923 May 2017 #11
Kicking! Madam45for2923 May 2017 #12
I don't mind people critical or doubtful of her, I mind what seems obsessive posts/peer pressure for Madam45for2923 May 2017 #13
 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
4. Where would the information that "the Supreme Court notified Mr. Trump
Sat May 20, 2017, 08:47 PM
May 2017

that the formal process of a case of impeachment against him was begun" have come from? That's not a missed detail. That's a WRONG detail. It couldn't happen.

I don't know what a "tactical in nature" situation is, but that is wrong information. I would think Ms Mensch and Mr Taylor would feel a little singed after being told something like that, and would in future be rightly doubtful of what their source actually "knows."

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
7. More of this, less of
Sun May 21, 2017, 09:53 AM
May 2017

The week-long assault on the twitter warriors who are doing yeoman's work interfacing with the IC and bringing pertinent information to our attention, day in and day out.

 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
8. Yes! Thank You! & Please feel free to share.
Sun May 21, 2017, 10:20 AM
May 2017

We will continue watching, reading, following whoever we damn please.
You know, making up our own minds!
Obsessive, shaming & authoritarian peer-pressure be damned.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
9. Excellent, level-headed advice.
Sun May 21, 2017, 10:56 AM
May 2017

That's the clearest description of the layman's assessment process I've read so far.

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Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
13. I don't mind people critical or doubtful of her, I mind what seems obsessive posts/peer pressure for
Tue May 23, 2017, 11:44 AM
May 2017

others to stop reading/following her if they wish to.

My motto is I'll read whoever I damn please, including LM if I wish.

I understand why she can be criticized, but I don't understand the need to be pushy towards fellow DUers to do as you deem "appropriate".

That part is very annoying.

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