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Sat May 20, 2017, 11:01 PM

Arab bashing/ Muslim bashing might be popular but I stand against it even I'm agnostic

I'm agnostic I married a Muslim Arab. I had one son when I married him. I had 4 daughters with him. The father of my son was an absent father. The Arab man I married supported that boy all his life from the time he was an infant even though he didn't have to.

My daughters are half Irish American & half Arab. 2 of those daughters are Muslim and wear hijab. The third daughter is a very free spirit and not really religious and married a guy with south American roots. My 4th daughter is an outspoken atheist and she is also pansexual and very active about LGBT rights. My son is also atheist and married a girl with South American roots and he speaks Spanish fluently.

Yes 9/11 was an awful thing done to our country by terrorists. Our government has also done some awful things in their countries as well.

It is not okay to me for me to sit by silently while people lump everyone in one culture in a big lump and ridicule them. ALL cultures throughout history have done some funky things.

I come to this place to get away from small minded right wingers that are hate ridden.

4 of my kids are half Arab. I'm not going to slam that for anyone. 2 of my daughters have chosen to be Muslim. That is their choice and I love them. My atheist daughter told me she'd been having a sexual relationship with another woman. I hugged her and said " Be who you are. Be happy!" .

Ridiculing people based on these kinds of things is very hurtful and damaging. I wonder if some of you even realize it sounds just like the right wing and makes me feel like crying.

I divorced the Arab man I was married too. He remarried. I'm disabled. Do you know this man I divorced paid cash for my surgeries? He calls to ask if I need money or help. Yes & then I get to hear how Arab men treat their wives like shit. NOT all Arab men treat their wives like shit. Some of them love their wives madly. Please stop saying such racist and insensitive things. My first husband was Texas cowboy he likes to cheat on me and come home and beat me senseless. He was 100 percent American.

I'm now 60 years old . I'm agnostic I try to live and let live. I just wanted to speak my mind here because I wanted some of you to know that some of these comments you are making sound very right wing and they are hurtful to other people. If I get banned.. well I get banned.

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Reply Arab bashing/ Muslim bashing might be popular but I stand against it even I'm agnostic (Original post)
luvMIdog May 2017 OP
juxtaposed May 2017 #1
elleng May 2017 #2
juxtaposed May 2017 #3
elleng May 2017 #4
juxtaposed May 2017 #5
Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #15
brooklynite May 2017 #6
luvMIdog May 2017 #8
pnwmom May 2017 #10
brooklynite May 2017 #13
pnwmom May 2017 #14
RandiFan1290 May 2017 #11
brer cat May 2017 #7
luvMIdog May 2017 #9
uppityperson May 2017 #12
Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #16
luvMIdog May 2017 #17
Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #19
OldSchoolLiberal May 2017 #18

Response to luvMIdog (Original post)

Sat May 20, 2017, 11:06 PM

1. agnostic is nothing more than an undecided voter but I agree about the bashing

 

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Response to juxtaposed (Reply #1)

Sat May 20, 2017, 11:08 PM

2. Try again:

a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God.

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Response to elleng (Reply #2)

Sat May 20, 2017, 11:12 PM

3. Thank you elling you just summed up what an undecided voter is. just my take of years

 

dealing with undecided voters. Thanks.

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Response to juxtaposed (Reply #3)

Sat May 20, 2017, 11:15 PM

4. I'm not an undecided voter.

I am agnostic re: the existence or nature of God.

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Response to elleng (Reply #4)

Sat May 20, 2017, 11:18 PM

5. Thank you again.

 

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Response to juxtaposed (Reply #1)

Sun May 21, 2017, 01:38 AM

15. Wrong.


I am agnostic because of my rational scientific evidence-based thinking (proving a negative is very hard) but the weight of evidence for atheism is so compelling that I behave as if I am atheist and even advocate for it.

By your binary thinking I am an "undecided voter". You could not be more wrong. I vote and advocate for atheism.

Binary thinking is one of the most common fallacies that people indulge in.

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Response to luvMIdog (Original post)

Sat May 20, 2017, 11:24 PM

6. I'm sure you feel equally unhappy about anyone criticizing Christianity?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #6)

Sat May 20, 2017, 11:36 PM

8. There are militant radical Muslims & there are militant radical Christians..

My father is a Christian. 2 of my sisters are Christian. My granny was a Christian. My favorite aunt is a Christian. My daughter in law is a Christian. I love them all.

Sometimes I will bash televangelists when they are preaching messages of hatred . I'm also freaked out by them saying 45 is God's choice. But no I don't run amok bashing and ridiculing Christians for Christianity.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #6)

Sun May 21, 2017, 12:04 AM

10. Are you suggesting Christians in the U.S. are hated on as much as Muslims?

Most Americans know plenty of Christians -- enough to realize that they comprise an entire spectrum of good and bad people.

But many Americans live in places where they're met few, if any, Muslims in real life. So stories like the OP's help to give them perspective.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #10)

Sun May 21, 2017, 01:15 AM

13. Whether they're hated or not is irrelevant...

...both religions are intolerant and are equally deserving of criticism, regardless of what their adherents are like.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #13)

Sun May 21, 2017, 01:18 AM

14. There are plenty of non-religious people who are intolerant;

for example, members of the John Birch Society, which is a political, not a religious, group.

Non-religious people just use other excuses for projecting the negative feelings inside them.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #6)

Sun May 21, 2017, 12:08 AM

11. 'Whataboutism'

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Response to luvMIdog (Original post)

Sat May 20, 2017, 11:32 PM

7. Thank you for sharing this, luvMIdog.

Such broadbrush attacks reflect ignorance and a closed mind, as well as indifference to the pain it causes others. Not what one would expect here; certainly not values we like to associate with Democrats.

I appreciate the time you took to introduce us to your family. Your love and respect for diversity is something we all should strive to achieve. "Be who you are. Be happy!" We would all be lucky to be so loved.

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Response to brer cat (Reply #7)

Sat May 20, 2017, 11:42 PM

9. Thank you. I have my warts , but I try

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Response to luvMIdog (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 12:09 AM

12. If you see nasty comments here, please alert on therm. I don't stand for prejudice or bigotry

Best wishes to you and yours.

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Response to luvMIdog (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 01:42 AM

16. +1. People are people. Praise the good ones, condemn the bad ones.


There are religious people who are tolerant.

There are religious people who are intolerant.

There are areligious people who are intolerant.

There are areligious people who are tolerant.


For me, tolerance is more important that what a person might believe alone at night or in large groups of like-minded people.

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #16)

Sun May 21, 2017, 02:02 AM

17. Thank you

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Response to luvMIdog (Reply #17)

Sun May 21, 2017, 02:04 AM

19. You are welcome. What people do is more important than what they believe. . . nt

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Response to luvMIdog (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 02:04 AM

18. We all need to stand against the racism. Period. No if ands or buts.

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