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IMHO: It's Like A Kid Past 10 Shouldn't Put That Shit On a Hot Dog.
Wounded Bear
(58,758 posts)I put it on french fries. That's it.
I don't even have any in my fridge because I don't do fries at home. They never come out right.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,920 posts)I live in a city where almost all fries I get in restaurants are frozen, and I can tell the difference between those and the ones made from real, fresh potatoes.
I have a son living in Portland, OR, and along with many wonderful beers, every single restaurant I've ever gone to there has real fries.
Oh, and I don't happen to like catsup (or ketchup) on my fries. I sometimes put it on a burger, but that's it.
I went for several years without using that condiment at all, and I think that the recipes may have changed over time because when I next put some on a burger, I was put off by how incredibly sweet it was. I hadn't recalled it as being cloyingly sweet.
Wounded Bear
(58,758 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,920 posts)a reasonably deep regular heavy duty pot. Check your PM.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)take them out and cool. Heat the oil back up and throw them back in and
the brown and crisp up to perfection.
Have always wanted to go to one of the Belgian restaurants in DC or NY - because
theirs are supposedly the best.
with mustard, right?
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,920 posts)in cooking fries is best, but I've never had the patience to do so.
I just fry them in one step.
Salt only for me.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)in the world. I don't really understand the science but it works. Way the French do it.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,920 posts)I happen to be a huge fan of my home made fries, and I honestly have never had any that are better, anywhere. Of course, I could invite myself over to your house for ones made with the two step process to compare, yes?
In any case, real home made fries made with real fresh potatoes are the best. As I said above, I live in a city where I can tell the fries are almost always made from frozen processed potatoes, and they are meh. When I visit my son in Portland, OR, I'm totally blown away by the quality of the fries. Heck, even if they're not that well done they're from REAL POTATOES!
betsuni
(25,731 posts)Soft on the inside, crisp on the outside.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)where they do Belgian fries and you can get numerous different kinds of condiments/sauces to go with them.
They are so much better than fries using the one step process.
karynnj
(59,507 posts)Of potatoes, brushed with olive oil. Adding fresh rosemary and galic optional. From travel to southern Europe, I prefer alioli, but ketchup is good as well.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)Tom67
(40 posts)Great food. great beer and great people.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,920 posts)that I'll move there, so he can take care of me in my old age.
I will say, that when I've visited he takes me to different restaurants every time we go out, which I appreciate. Also, I have had absolutely the best New England clam chowder I've ever had in Portland. Two different trips, two different restaurants. OMG! The main reason not to move there is that I'd quickly weigh about 300 pounds if I lived there.
csziggy
(34,139 posts)I'm not sure about the others, but Hunt's catsup stopped using HFCS a few years ago. Before they advertised that the catsup was HFCS free, I'd stopped buying theirs and was getting the store brand because both were equally too sweet. I picked up some of the HFCS free Hunt's and it made a big difference - instead of being cloyingly sweet, there was more of a sweet-sour balance.
So you might try checking labels and try a catsup that is HFCS free and see if the flavor is better.
Cha
(297,890 posts)some catsup on hamburgers and fries.. and lots of it.
GeoWilliam750
(2,522 posts)Using ketchup on hot dogs? Profane!!!
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)It's my favorite way to eat them. I could really go for some good fish and chips right now.
Fries need tartar sauce.
flotsam
(3,268 posts)Use a simple fry daddy and Oreida Fast Food fries. Fries are ready when they rise to the surface.
suston96
(4,175 posts)Nobody - nobody puts ketchup on a hot dog.......
(From a Dirty Harry movie).
From Chicago, where Chicago style hot dogs are the best in the world. It's practically a law.
Only a fool would put catsup on a Chicago style hot dog, or any other type of hot dog.
jmowreader
(50,571 posts)Danny Meyer's Shake Shack chain sells a product called the "Shack-cago Dog." His original condiment plan included ten toppings: pickles, tomatoes, onions, sport peppers, relish, celery salt, ketchup, mustard, and cucumber. The one on the menu has no ketchup or lettuce.
He also planned a "New York" dog that never made it to the menu; it was supposed to have sauerkraut, redonian relish, tomato, onions, ketchup and mustard.
https://chicago.eater.com/2015/6/12/8769697/shake-shack-chicago-dog-ketchup-danny-meyer
bench scientist
(1,107 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,350 posts)I mean, it's a friggin hot dog.
And Clint Eastwood can go fuck himself.
I never liked food Nazis anyway.
Rollo
(2,559 posts)I make my own kimchee and it's wonderful on a hot dog.
I guess the closest thing would be spicy sauerkraut... but kimchee is sooooo much better than even that.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)uppityperson
(115,681 posts)mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)He brought his own food.
uppityperson
(115,681 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)What an ignorant ass!
Tanuki
(14,926 posts)sheepishly raises her hand....
flamingdem
(39,333 posts)tammywammy
(26,582 posts)AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)Takket
(21,657 posts)Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)Cartoonist
(7,323 posts)I put some on the side of the plate and dip the pieces in it. You got a problem with that?
I put both ketchup AND mustard on a hot dog.
Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)My Dad (Dead Now, Not Italian) Put It On Her Lasagna.
Maybe That's What Killed Both Of Them.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,920 posts)I'm sorry they're both dead, but I bet your mother's lasagna was the best.
My very best friend is Italian on his mother's side of the family, and he has many wonderful stories about the fabulous food she made. There are still some elderly aunts left, and he just loves being invited over for Sunday dinner.
Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)And I Would Drive 50 miles To Have My Moms Cooking Every
Sunday No Matter What, I Do Have To Admit I Lost 30 Lbs
From Grief And Good Manga.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I'm half Italian and I have never heard of such a thing - god bless your mother's soul, I am sure she was a good woman - but ketchup on lasagne?
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)What an insult to her mother! To put ketchup on Italian food! Mama Mia!
Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)But Thats Cool.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,361 posts)That's two strikes against him.
GP6971
(31,230 posts)pork was always cooked well done. At that time meat was local and pigs were usually fed what we called swill...basically garbage. This was in the 50s.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,350 posts)My dad : "you better cook that pork or you'll get trichinosis"
Everything was over cooked. My mom's hamburgers were lovingly called "hockey pucks." But my parents grew up in a time where that stuff killed people.
It wasn't until my neighbor moved in and would invite us over for pork roast. At first I was like mmm, no thanks. Now I'm like hells yeah!!
Of course, now everything old is new again. Trichinosis in New York from uncooked meat. The bed bugs my parents used to joke about "sleep tight don't let the bed bugs bite" are back. With a vengeance.
Maybe I should go back to placing my coat on the back of movie theater seats so as not to get ring worm. Just like mom used to make us.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,361 posts)It's beef steak we're talking about.
Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)..For Forks Sake..
First Speaker
(4,858 posts)...I remember once when he and the crew went to Paris, and a French chef was ready to strangle him when he poured ketchup over a fancy steak. The classic American boor. It's still an insult to Fred, though, to compare him with Trump...
Horse with no Name
(33,958 posts)I don't do it in public. Lol
mulsh
(2,959 posts)hotels in places like New York City and other major urban areas. NY's Plaza Hotel currently offers this service.
[link:http://www.cntraveler.com/story/nyc-plaza-hotel-now-offers-etiquette-lessons|
Luciferous
(6,086 posts)Shrike47
(6,913 posts)Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)spiderpig
(10,419 posts)Oops, I forgot. He only sold the bestest steaks.
jmowreader
(50,571 posts)There are eight grades of beef: Prime, Choice, Select, Standard, Commercial, Utility, Cutter and Canner. The bottom three grades are what works its way into things like taco meat and chili.
Cha
(297,890 posts)But I use to eat hotdogs.
Binkie The Clown
(7,911 posts)Cha
(297,890 posts)sauerkraut on my dogs.. or maybe a chili cheese dog.. I was incorrigible!
Binkie The Clown
(7,911 posts)Cha
(297,890 posts)Nixon did that.. lol what did I know.. nothing!
R B Garr
(17,000 posts)And at least they market that for certain steak eaters...but, ketchup?? No, no, no.
My brother puts ketchup on his scrambled eggs, which is also weird.
LeftInTX
(25,681 posts)What is even weirder, is he's Mexican. He puts salsa on everything, but he puts ketchup on scrambled eggs.
csziggy
(34,139 posts)A good steak needs nothing other than salt, especially if it is extra rare, the way I like it. And if it is not a good steak, there is no point in eating it.
I'll put A-1 in my meatloaf when mixing it and I like to put a layer of A-1 and catsup on top - I love the way the mixture tastes when it is cooked that way.
PCIntern
(25,619 posts)I'm a Pittsburgh-rare guy myself. Kosher salt added!!!
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Queens out of the boy.
betsuni
(25,731 posts)The eggs and hashbrowns need a little ketchup (not the gross corn syrup stuff, though) and the steak is not at all offended by this.
Lotusflower70
(3,077 posts)Eat whatever you want how you want. I like ranch on my steak. I hate steak sauce. A1 is crap. And I like my steak well done but not burned. My brother is a butcher and I get the most tender steak from him. I guess I don't see the issue here.
radical noodle
(8,016 posts)Everyone likes different things. Eat what tastes good to you.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)Picture this: Eggs done over easy and a couple of slices of bacon. Then watching him put catsup on the over easy eggs then start mashing it all up before eating it. I will be nice and not tell you what I think it looks like.
get the red out
(13,468 posts)And she is 42, with very liberal values.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)I put it on as a kid probably because my Dad and Grandpa did. I didn't/don't like the taste of plain steak. Is horseradish part of British culture?
Freddie
(9,275 posts)Has to be Heinz. I like a little (well-done) burger with my ketchup. Patiently waiting for DH to get un-busy long enough to get out the grill for the season for the usually round of hockey pucks. And Oscar Mayer Smokie Links (yum!)
The *only* think I agree with Dolt 45 is that (for me) steak or any meat should be thoroughly cooked. It's my PA Dutch heritage and I just don't like the taste of rare meat. Ketchup on steak? No. A splash of Worcestershire is perfect.
WhiteTara
(29,729 posts)It was horrible. I began to hate to prepare a meal because I knew it would be slathered in catsup. Eww.
Soxfan58
(3,479 posts)Need all the help they can get.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,224 posts)Ketchup (or catsup, if you swing that way) on a steak is ridiculous.
Ketchup on a hotdog is perfectly fine and acceptable. I mean, it's a hot dog. It ain't fine dining. And if you ask me, the sweetness of the ketchup acts as a perfect counterbalance to the saltiness of the dog.
People who insist ketchup on a hotdog is somehow some sort of abomination are as bad as the folks who claim iced tea can't be sweetened.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)He takes a perfectly good aged $50 New York strip, and orders it well-done. In other words, cooked until all the proteins are fully denatured. Until it goes "clank" on the plate. He likes hockey pucks with ketchup.
Seriously, you NEVER have a good steak cooked well done. Proper steaks are cooked rare. The objective is to restore the body temperature of the cow, so you have that true carnivorous experience.
BumRushDaShow
(129,803 posts)and a little ketchup.
Igel
(35,383 posts)There's no arguing over tastes.
Older than the Heinz-variety catsup is Hunts. A lot of people use A-1. They're similar but different. Both are basically unreformed catsup--they include tomatoes and something sour as well as fish.
But catsup used to routinely have anchovies in it. Used to have mushrooms in it, at least in some kinds.
Worcestershire sauce is true to even older varieties of ketchup. The recipe kept morphing, easier when it was home-made or home-brewed than when it became the object of large corporations, patents, trademarks, and media campaigns.
It all started off as fermented rice & fish sauce. I have Vietnamese fish sauce in my pantry, next to the Hunts, A-1, Worcestershire sauce, and even the stuff much, much closer to the original S. Chinese stuff, Vietnamese fish sauce.
The word's apparently traceable back to a Hokkien word. That's a variety of Chinese that's been under extreme pressure from Mandarin over the last 400 years. It's not extinct, far from it, but it's probably got a limited life-span given the imperialism and push for assimilation that is PC in some countries.
Tanuki
(14,926 posts)randr
(12,418 posts)is that any old hunk of meat "well done" would probably taste "better" with catsup.
The lsos, in all likelihood orders a primo Filet Mignon burnt for him and he needs the catsup to replace the juices .
I hope smart chefs substitute a cheap shoulder cut or such when he orders and saves the prime meat for themselves.
ThoughtCriminal
(14,050 posts)Nothing but the best!