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Who Puts Catsup On A Steak?... (Original Post) Grassy Knoll May 2017 OP
Ketchup has one purpose...fries Wounded Bear May 2017 #1
Ohhh, home made fries are the best! PoindexterOglethorpe May 2017 #9
I don't have a deep fryer, so I don't do fries at home...nt Wounded Bear May 2017 #14
You don't need an actual deep fryer, just PoindexterOglethorpe May 2017 #15
Exactly. And I learned the trick. You cook them until soft/done inside and then Laura PourMeADrink May 2017 #23
I have been told that the two step process PoindexterOglethorpe May 2017 #25
oh you need to try ! It's not that much longer and makes all the difference Laura PourMeADrink May 2017 #44
As in how much not much longer? PoindexterOglethorpe May 2017 #51
I boil the potatoes first, then fry them. betsuni May 2017 #52
Yes! That is the best way. They have a place here in Boston called Saus smirkymonkey May 2017 #82
Or make a variation of French fries by roasting small wedges karynnj May 2017 #71
Roasting is much healthier than frying (far less fat), but just as flavorful. - nt KingCharlemagne May 2017 #75
Portland has the best food. Tom67 May 2017 #21
I know. I keep on threatening that son PoindexterOglethorpe May 2017 #26
For a while some catsup brands had high fructose corn syrup in them csziggy May 2017 #43
I'm vegan now but I use to love me Cha May 2017 #33
Malt vinegar on fries is the way to go GeoWilliam750 May 2017 #57
I love malt vinegar on fries! smirkymonkey May 2017 #84
Bleah. Igel May 2017 #76
For a McD's knock-off at home flotsam May 2017 #86
I put ketchup on my steak........but.... suston96 May 2017 #2
No. murielm99 May 2017 #32
You won't believe who was a "fool" jmowreader May 2017 #54
That's right in chi town we don't put ketchup on hot dogs! bench scientist May 2017 #65
I never understood the concept you could ruin a hot dog with ketchup. Hassin Bin Sober May 2017 #50
Best on a hot dog: Kimchee Rollo May 2017 #62
I do and I am somebody. Doreen May 2017 #63
Faux Billionaires. sarcasmo May 2017 #3
He has to eat "foreign" food for I've over a week. I would love to do this trip uppityperson May 2017 #4
Nope mainstreetonce May 2017 #13
He is such a twit uppityperson May 2017 #19
Are you serious? smirkymonkey May 2017 #85
Tanuki.... Tanuki May 2017 #5
Our Leader flamingdem May 2017 #6
The same type of person to order steak well done. tammywammy May 2017 #7
Truth!! That is nearly criminal. No steak, especially a good one, should ever be well done AgadorSparticus May 2017 #80
3 year olds Takket May 2017 #8
People who don't actually like steak (n/t) Spider Jerusalem May 2017 #10
I never do Cartoonist May 2017 #11
My Mom Was From Italy (Dead Now) And Made Homemade Lasagna.. Grassy Knoll May 2017 #12
Oh, dear. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2017 #16
My Dad Divorced My Mom Long Before Both Deaths.. Grassy Knoll May 2017 #22
Wait, your Italian mother put ketchup on her lasagne? smirkymonkey May 2017 #39
think she meant her dad put ketchup on the lasagna her mom made Laura PourMeADrink May 2017 #46
Oh, ok. I see. smirkymonkey May 2017 #49
I'm a He, Lol. Grassy Knoll May 2017 #60
Who eats theirs well done? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2017 #17
Well, growing up GP6971 May 2017 #38
Yep. I grew up not liking pork roast. Hassin Bin Sober May 2017 #47
Where was pork mentioned in the thread? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2017 #72
3 strikes.. Eating Pizza With A Fork... Grassy Knoll May 2017 #55
Fred Flintstone... First Speaker May 2017 #18
I do. But only at home. Horse with no Name May 2017 #20
One who's parents were unaware of the etiquite classes available at Tiffany & Co, and some fine mulsh May 2017 #24
My kid does, but he likes ketchup on everything Luciferous May 2017 #27
Only if I'm out of mayonnaise. Shrike47 May 2017 #28
lol Cha May 2017 #31
Mayo On A Hot Dog Is Heven Grassy Knoll May 2017 #58
People who eat really shitty steaks, maybe, I dunno... Still In Wisconsin May 2017 #29
Like the ones Rump was marketing? spiderpig May 2017 #36
The bestest Cutter-grade steaks, right? jmowreader May 2017 #59
Eww.. catsup on a hotdog.. and I'm vegan. Cha May 2017 #30
Anything on steak OR hotdogs. yuck! vegan here also. n/t Binkie The Clown May 2017 #34
Well, I liked grey poupon and Cha May 2017 #37
Yeah. I used to like sauerkraut on mine, and ketchup (catsup) on scrambled eggs. n/t Binkie The Clown May 2017 #42
I tried it on cottage cheese.. I read Cha May 2017 #45
Heck, I can't even do the A1 Steak Sauce. R B Garr May 2017 #35
My husband does the ketchup on eggs...weird LeftInTX May 2017 #41
A-1 is for meatloaf - not for steak csziggy May 2017 #48
Ex-actly!! PCIntern May 2017 #77
You can take the boy out of Queens, but you can't take the smirkymonkey May 2017 #40
In a breakfast situation: steak and eggs, hashbrowns, tomato slices. betsuni May 2017 #53
I don't understand food snobs Lotusflower70 May 2017 #56
I'm with you radical noodle May 2017 #61
I have a friend who puts catsup on almost everything. Doreen May 2017 #64
My sister get the red out May 2017 #66
Horseradish HockeyMom May 2017 #67
Love me some ketchup Freddie May 2017 #68
My ex used to put catsup on EVERYTHING WhiteTara May 2017 #69
Trump steaks Soxfan58 May 2017 #70
Your position is 50% correct. Tommy_Carcetti May 2017 #73
That's only the start of it. backscatter712 May 2017 #74
Philly cheesesteak w/fried onions BumRushDaShow May 2017 #78
De gustibus. Igel May 2017 #79
Hokkien is alive and well in Malaysia. So is Hokkien cooking, thank heaven! Tanuki May 2017 #83
Saddest thing about his eating disorders randr May 2017 #81
Real Tomoto Ketchup Eddie? ThoughtCriminal May 2017 #87

Wounded Bear

(58,758 posts)
1. Ketchup has one purpose...fries
Sat May 20, 2017, 11:50 PM
May 2017

I put it on french fries. That's it.

I don't even have any in my fridge because I don't do fries at home. They never come out right.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,920 posts)
9. Ohhh, home made fries are the best!
Sat May 20, 2017, 11:58 PM
May 2017

I live in a city where almost all fries I get in restaurants are frozen, and I can tell the difference between those and the ones made from real, fresh potatoes.

I have a son living in Portland, OR, and along with many wonderful beers, every single restaurant I've ever gone to there has real fries.

Oh, and I don't happen to like catsup (or ketchup) on my fries. I sometimes put it on a burger, but that's it.

I went for several years without using that condiment at all, and I think that the recipes may have changed over time because when I next put some on a burger, I was put off by how incredibly sweet it was. I hadn't recalled it as being cloyingly sweet.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
23. Exactly. And I learned the trick. You cook them until soft/done inside and then
Sun May 21, 2017, 12:25 AM
May 2017

take them out and cool. Heat the oil back up and throw them back in and
the brown and crisp up to perfection.

Have always wanted to go to one of the Belgian restaurants in DC or NY - because
theirs are supposedly the best.

with mustard, right?

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,920 posts)
25. I have been told that the two step process
Sun May 21, 2017, 12:28 AM
May 2017

in cooking fries is best, but I've never had the patience to do so.

I just fry them in one step.

Salt only for me.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
44. oh you need to try ! It's not that much longer and makes all the difference
Sun May 21, 2017, 01:04 AM
May 2017

in the world. I don't really understand the science but it works. Way the French do it.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,920 posts)
51. As in how much not much longer?
Sun May 21, 2017, 01:33 AM
May 2017

I happen to be a huge fan of my home made fries, and I honestly have never had any that are better, anywhere. Of course, I could invite myself over to your house for ones made with the two step process to compare, yes?

In any case, real home made fries made with real fresh potatoes are the best. As I said above, I live in a city where I can tell the fries are almost always made from frozen processed potatoes, and they are meh. When I visit my son in Portland, OR, I'm totally blown away by the quality of the fries. Heck, even if they're not that well done they're from REAL POTATOES!

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
82. Yes! That is the best way. They have a place here in Boston called Saus
Sun May 21, 2017, 12:39 PM
May 2017

where they do Belgian fries and you can get numerous different kinds of condiments/sauces to go with them.

They are so much better than fries using the one step process.

karynnj

(59,507 posts)
71. Or make a variation of French fries by roasting small wedges
Sun May 21, 2017, 08:44 AM
May 2017

Of potatoes, brushed with olive oil. Adding fresh rosemary and galic optional. From travel to southern Europe, I prefer alioli, but ketchup is good as well.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,920 posts)
26. I know. I keep on threatening that son
Sun May 21, 2017, 12:30 AM
May 2017

that I'll move there, so he can take care of me in my old age.

I will say, that when I've visited he takes me to different restaurants every time we go out, which I appreciate. Also, I have had absolutely the best New England clam chowder I've ever had in Portland. Two different trips, two different restaurants. OMG! The main reason not to move there is that I'd quickly weigh about 300 pounds if I lived there.

csziggy

(34,139 posts)
43. For a while some catsup brands had high fructose corn syrup in them
Sun May 21, 2017, 01:02 AM
May 2017

I'm not sure about the others, but Hunt's catsup stopped using HFCS a few years ago. Before they advertised that the catsup was HFCS free, I'd stopped buying theirs and was getting the store brand because both were equally too sweet. I picked up some of the HFCS free Hunt's and it made a big difference - instead of being cloyingly sweet, there was more of a sweet-sour balance.

So you might try checking labels and try a catsup that is HFCS free and see if the flavor is better.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
84. I love malt vinegar on fries!
Sun May 21, 2017, 12:41 PM
May 2017

It's my favorite way to eat them. I could really go for some good fish and chips right now.

flotsam

(3,268 posts)
86. For a McD's knock-off at home
Sun May 21, 2017, 01:05 PM
May 2017

Use a simple fry daddy and Oreida Fast Food fries. Fries are ready when they rise to the surface.

suston96

(4,175 posts)
2. I put ketchup on my steak........but....
Sat May 20, 2017, 11:52 PM
May 2017

Nobody - nobody puts ketchup on a hot dog.......

(From a Dirty Harry movie).

murielm99

(30,779 posts)
32. No.
Sun May 21, 2017, 12:40 AM
May 2017

From Chicago, where Chicago style hot dogs are the best in the world. It's practically a law.

Only a fool would put catsup on a Chicago style hot dog, or any other type of hot dog.

jmowreader

(50,571 posts)
54. You won't believe who was a "fool"
Sun May 21, 2017, 01:56 AM
May 2017

Danny Meyer's Shake Shack chain sells a product called the "Shack-cago Dog." His original condiment plan included ten toppings: pickles, tomatoes, onions, sport peppers, relish, celery salt, ketchup, mustard, and cucumber. The one on the menu has no ketchup or lettuce.

He also planned a "New York" dog that never made it to the menu; it was supposed to have sauerkraut, redonian relish, tomato, onions, ketchup and mustard.

https://chicago.eater.com/2015/6/12/8769697/shake-shack-chicago-dog-ketchup-danny-meyer

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,350 posts)
50. I never understood the concept you could ruin a hot dog with ketchup.
Sun May 21, 2017, 01:17 AM
May 2017

I mean, it's a friggin hot dog.

And Clint Eastwood can go fuck himself.

I never liked food Nazis anyway.

Rollo

(2,559 posts)
62. Best on a hot dog: Kimchee
Sun May 21, 2017, 02:41 AM
May 2017

I make my own kimchee and it's wonderful on a hot dog.

I guess the closest thing would be spicy sauerkraut... but kimchee is sooooo much better than even that.

Cartoonist

(7,323 posts)
11. I never do
Sat May 20, 2017, 11:59 PM
May 2017

I put some on the side of the plate and dip the pieces in it. You got a problem with that?

I put both ketchup AND mustard on a hot dog.

Grassy Knoll

(10,118 posts)
12. My Mom Was From Italy (Dead Now) And Made Homemade Lasagna..
Sat May 20, 2017, 11:59 PM
May 2017

My Dad (Dead Now, Not Italian) Put It On Her Lasagna.
Maybe That's What Killed Both Of Them.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,920 posts)
16. Oh, dear.
Sun May 21, 2017, 12:09 AM
May 2017

I'm sorry they're both dead, but I bet your mother's lasagna was the best.

My very best friend is Italian on his mother's side of the family, and he has many wonderful stories about the fabulous food she made. There are still some elderly aunts left, and he just loves being invited over for Sunday dinner.

Grassy Knoll

(10,118 posts)
22. My Dad Divorced My Mom Long Before Both Deaths..
Sun May 21, 2017, 12:23 AM
May 2017

And I Would Drive 50 miles To Have My Moms Cooking Every
Sunday No Matter What, I Do Have To Admit I Lost 30 Lbs
From Grief And Good Manga.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
39. Wait, your Italian mother put ketchup on her lasagne?
Sun May 21, 2017, 12:55 AM
May 2017

I'm half Italian and I have never heard of such a thing - god bless your mother's soul, I am sure she was a good woman - but ketchup on lasagne?

GP6971

(31,230 posts)
38. Well, growing up
Sun May 21, 2017, 12:53 AM
May 2017

pork was always cooked well done. At that time meat was local and pigs were usually fed what we called swill...basically garbage. This was in the 50s.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,350 posts)
47. Yep. I grew up not liking pork roast.
Sun May 21, 2017, 01:13 AM
May 2017

My dad : "you better cook that pork or you'll get trichinosis"

Everything was over cooked. My mom's hamburgers were lovingly called "hockey pucks." But my parents grew up in a time where that stuff killed people.

It wasn't until my neighbor moved in and would invite us over for pork roast. At first I was like mmm, no thanks. Now I'm like hells yeah!!

Of course, now everything old is new again. Trichinosis in New York from uncooked meat. The bed bugs my parents used to joke about "sleep tight don't let the bed bugs bite" are back. With a vengeance.

Maybe I should go back to placing my coat on the back of movie theater seats so as not to get ring worm. Just like mom used to make us.

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
18. Fred Flintstone...
Sun May 21, 2017, 12:14 AM
May 2017

...I remember once when he and the crew went to Paris, and a French chef was ready to strangle him when he poured ketchup over a fancy steak. The classic American boor. It's still an insult to Fred, though, to compare him with Trump...

mulsh

(2,959 posts)
24. One who's parents were unaware of the etiquite classes available at Tiffany & Co, and some fine
Sun May 21, 2017, 12:26 AM
May 2017

hotels in places like New York City and other major urban areas. NY's Plaza Hotel currently offers this service.


[link:http://www.cntraveler.com/story/nyc-plaza-hotel-now-offers-etiquette-lessons|


jmowreader

(50,571 posts)
59. The bestest Cutter-grade steaks, right?
Sun May 21, 2017, 02:04 AM
May 2017

There are eight grades of beef: Prime, Choice, Select, Standard, Commercial, Utility, Cutter and Canner. The bottom three grades are what works its way into things like taco meat and chili.

Cha

(297,890 posts)
37. Well, I liked grey poupon and
Sun May 21, 2017, 12:47 AM
May 2017

sauerkraut on my dogs.. or maybe a chili cheese dog.. I was incorrigible!

R B Garr

(17,000 posts)
35. Heck, I can't even do the A1 Steak Sauce.
Sun May 21, 2017, 12:42 AM
May 2017

And at least they market that for certain steak eaters...but, ketchup?? No, no, no.

My brother puts ketchup on his scrambled eggs, which is also weird.

LeftInTX

(25,681 posts)
41. My husband does the ketchup on eggs...weird
Sun May 21, 2017, 12:59 AM
May 2017

What is even weirder, is he's Mexican. He puts salsa on everything, but he puts ketchup on scrambled eggs.

csziggy

(34,139 posts)
48. A-1 is for meatloaf - not for steak
Sun May 21, 2017, 01:14 AM
May 2017

A good steak needs nothing other than salt, especially if it is extra rare, the way I like it. And if it is not a good steak, there is no point in eating it.

I'll put A-1 in my meatloaf when mixing it and I like to put a layer of A-1 and catsup on top - I love the way the mixture tastes when it is cooked that way.

betsuni

(25,731 posts)
53. In a breakfast situation: steak and eggs, hashbrowns, tomato slices.
Sun May 21, 2017, 01:55 AM
May 2017

The eggs and hashbrowns need a little ketchup (not the gross corn syrup stuff, though) and the steak is not at all offended by this.

Lotusflower70

(3,077 posts)
56. I don't understand food snobs
Sun May 21, 2017, 02:00 AM
May 2017

Eat whatever you want how you want. I like ranch on my steak. I hate steak sauce. A1 is crap. And I like my steak well done but not burned. My brother is a butcher and I get the most tender steak from him. I guess I don't see the issue here.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
64. I have a friend who puts catsup on almost everything.
Sun May 21, 2017, 03:09 AM
May 2017

Picture this: Eggs done over easy and a couple of slices of bacon. Then watching him put catsup on the over easy eggs then start mashing it all up before eating it. I will be nice and not tell you what I think it looks like.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
67. Horseradish
Sun May 21, 2017, 07:20 AM
May 2017

I put it on as a kid probably because my Dad and Grandpa did. I didn't/don't like the taste of plain steak. Is horseradish part of British culture?

Freddie

(9,275 posts)
68. Love me some ketchup
Sun May 21, 2017, 08:08 AM
May 2017

Has to be Heinz. I like a little (well-done) burger with my ketchup. Patiently waiting for DH to get un-busy long enough to get out the grill for the season for the usually round of hockey pucks. And Oscar Mayer Smokie Links (yum!)
The *only* think I agree with Dolt 45 is that (for me) steak or any meat should be thoroughly cooked. It's my PA Dutch heritage and I just don't like the taste of rare meat. Ketchup on steak? No. A splash of Worcestershire is perfect.

WhiteTara

(29,729 posts)
69. My ex used to put catsup on EVERYTHING
Sun May 21, 2017, 08:25 AM
May 2017

It was horrible. I began to hate to prepare a meal because I knew it would be slathered in catsup. Eww.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,224 posts)
73. Your position is 50% correct.
Sun May 21, 2017, 09:50 AM
May 2017

Ketchup (or catsup, if you swing that way) on a steak is ridiculous.

Ketchup on a hotdog is perfectly fine and acceptable. I mean, it's a hot dog. It ain't fine dining. And if you ask me, the sweetness of the ketchup acts as a perfect counterbalance to the saltiness of the dog.

People who insist ketchup on a hotdog is somehow some sort of abomination are as bad as the folks who claim iced tea can't be sweetened.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
74. That's only the start of it.
Sun May 21, 2017, 10:03 AM
May 2017

He takes a perfectly good aged $50 New York strip, and orders it well-done. In other words, cooked until all the proteins are fully denatured. Until it goes "clank" on the plate. He likes hockey pucks with ketchup.

Seriously, you NEVER have a good steak cooked well done. Proper steaks are cooked rare. The objective is to restore the body temperature of the cow, so you have that true carnivorous experience.

Igel

(35,383 posts)
79. De gustibus.
Sun May 21, 2017, 10:21 AM
May 2017

There's no arguing over tastes.

Older than the Heinz-variety catsup is Hunts. A lot of people use A-1. They're similar but different. Both are basically unreformed catsup--they include tomatoes and something sour as well as fish.

But catsup used to routinely have anchovies in it. Used to have mushrooms in it, at least in some kinds.

Worcestershire sauce is true to even older varieties of ketchup. The recipe kept morphing, easier when it was home-made or home-brewed than when it became the object of large corporations, patents, trademarks, and media campaigns.

It all started off as fermented rice & fish sauce. I have Vietnamese fish sauce in my pantry, next to the Hunts, A-1, Worcestershire sauce, and even the stuff much, much closer to the original S. Chinese stuff, Vietnamese fish sauce.

The word's apparently traceable back to a Hokkien word. That's a variety of Chinese that's been under extreme pressure from Mandarin over the last 400 years. It's not extinct, far from it, but it's probably got a limited life-span given the imperialism and push for assimilation that is PC in some countries.

randr

(12,418 posts)
81. Saddest thing about his eating disorders
Sun May 21, 2017, 12:30 PM
May 2017

is that any old hunk of meat "well done" would probably taste "better" with catsup.
The lsos, in all likelihood orders a primo Filet Mignon burnt for him and he needs the catsup to replace the juices .
I hope smart chefs substitute a cheap shoulder cut or such when he orders and saves the prime meat for themselves.

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