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packman

(16,296 posts)
Sun May 21, 2017, 02:24 PM May 2017

Karma - big game hunter has elephant fall on him

This guy was a "hunter" who used pack dogs to flush out big cats so wealthy clients could shoot them.





A professional big game hunter from Tzaneen, Theunis Botha, 51, died on Friday afternoon during a hunt in Gwai, in Zimbabwe, when a member of his group fired at a storming elephant cow and the animal fell on him.

A source who didn’t want to be named told Netwerk24 that a group of hunters had gone for a walk on Friday afternoon when they suddenly came across a breeding herd of elephants.

Three elephant cows stormed the hunters and Botha shot at them. A fourth cow stormed them from the side and one of the hunters shot her after she’d lifted Botha with her trunk. The shot was fatal and as the cow collapsed, she fell on Botha.

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/hunter-dies-after-shot-elephant-falls-on-him-20170521?

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Karma - big game hunter has elephant fall on him (Original Post) packman May 2017 OP
He can hunt drmeow May 2017 #1
I'll gotten gains get you got. oasis May 2017 #2
+++ so true iluvtennis May 2017 #21
I wonder if that elephant' spirit will continue to punish him, in the afterlife Siwsan May 2017 #3
I'm sorry for the loss of the Elephant jimlup May 2017 #4
Perfect. Hoyt May 2017 #5
I second that! Kleveland May 2017 #8
Same here. And as said below... SMC22307 May 2017 #15
Yep! old enough to remember that film. busterbrown May 2017 #26
+1 dalton99a May 2017 #27
!!! Alice11111 May 2017 #48
Talk about a lack of situational awareness. thucythucy May 2017 #6
I could hear elephants half a mile to a mile away when I was in Africa and I am untrained stevenleser May 2017 #11
Yay, Team Karmic Elephant! MrScorpio May 2017 #7
+1 irisblue May 2017 #12
+1, karma is a bitch demigoddess May 2017 #43
Good fucking riddance. BigDemVoter May 2017 #9
good. stonecutter357 May 2017 #10
You know, I believe the elephants 'knew'... just 'knew' and they can sense evil and ill intentions. PearliePoo2 May 2017 #13
Your Comments? busterbrown May 2017 #28
yeah well, that's a damn shame... dhill926 May 2017 #14
Elephants always remember....... Historic NY May 2017 #16
...somewhere, Horton is smiling... Ken Burch May 2017 #39
Good riddance. Horrible that all those elephants were killed, per the article. SunSeeker May 2017 #17
Fitting end malaise May 2017 #18
Yea malaise.. busterbrown May 2017 #29
Hegot that when the elephant hit him malaise May 2017 #33
Good. Doreen May 2017 #19
I'm just sorry they didn't get his two clients. sandensea May 2017 #20
They were probably ooday and koosay. They love to big animal hunt. They have notdarkyet May 2017 #25
If they ever do something akin to the Hunger Games, I nominate Eric and Donnie Trump sandensea May 2017 #40
Despicable. Truly despicable. I can't say anything further. I just can't. Eyeball_Kid May 2017 #50
And worst of all, too many of our fellow Americans admire cowardice like this. sandensea May 2017 #56
Good. smirkymonkey May 2017 #22
And more good news form the article: sandensea May 2017 #23
I don't believe in karma but am happy this asshole Duppers May 2017 #24
You don't believe in karma. Nor do I. Glad the elephant Alice11111 May 2017 #57
Vengeance Hulk May 2017 #30
The trophy, to put beside the bear, tiger, and lion heads, Alice11111 May 2017 #61
Too bad it wasn't Donald, Jr. RandySF May 2017 #31
Exactly my thoughts! LOL Lib May 2017 #37
I kept waiting for the Dems to go w this in a camp ad. Alice11111 May 2017 #58
+1 dalton99a May 2017 #44
I looooooooooove your OP's title! It is classic for something. Madam45for2923 May 2017 #32
The elephant got its revenge liberal N proud May 2017 #34
... Ken Burch May 2017 #35
Elephants are heros, saints & martyrs. Sunlei May 2017 #36
A human being died oberliner May 2017 #38
A killer. KatyMan May 2017 #41
Human garbage masquerading as human died Le Gaucher May 2017 #42
A monster died while doing something monstrous. Crunchy Frog May 2017 #46
Zero fucks to give for a big game hunter. nt Codeine May 2017 #49
He was cruel and would have continued his viciousness. The elephant was innocent. tblue37 May 2017 #54
The universe is a better place without this hunter & Ailes Alice11111 May 2017 #60
Other than simple self-righteousness, for what specific and relevant purposes? LanternWaste May 2017 #66
Oh please. The elephant was the much bigger loss. Coventina May 2017 #67
A human being that devoted much of his life to killing. Ken Burch May 2017 #70
Loss is MFM008 May 2017 #45
Good. Maynar May 2017 #47
That's GOTTA hurt. C Moon May 2017 #51
One can hope. Hassin Bin Sober May 2017 #55
Good. nt Honeycombe8 May 2017 #52
The punishment fit the crime. VOX May 2017 #53
Elephants are among the few animals who memorialize their dead IronLionZion May 2017 #59
Wonder what breed of dogs those are? Ligyron May 2017 #62
The death of that worthless scum brings me the kind of joy Jack-o-Lantern May 2017 #63
Yes, I am a bad person tavalon May 2017 #64
So sad. sellitman May 2017 #65
Sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes the bear eats you inwiththenew May 2017 #68
"It's not nice to fool Mother Nature" niyad May 2017 #69

thucythucy

(8,045 posts)
6. Talk about a lack of situational awareness.
Sun May 21, 2017, 02:54 PM
May 2017

These "hunters" go "for a walk" and they just stumble unknowingly upon a herd of breeding ELEPHANTS?

Someone please enlighten me. When elephants fuck, do they draw the blinds, close the doors, and make sure to keep their voices down lest they bother the neighbors? I had no idea elephants could be such prudes.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
11. I could hear elephants half a mile to a mile away when I was in Africa and I am untrained
Sun May 21, 2017, 03:03 PM
May 2017

My hearing is probably a little above average but stumbling upon elephants seems pretty hard to do.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
13. You know, I believe the elephants 'knew'... just 'knew' and they can sense evil and ill intentions.
Sun May 21, 2017, 03:09 PM
May 2017

I feel sick that an elephant died and I feel so bad for the remaining ones that will forever grieve for her.
They DO grieve...and they remember.
I hope this sadistic, bloodthirsty fuck suffered intense pain and misery before he died.

Kicking for Karma for the critters.


Doreen

(11,686 posts)
19. Good.
Sun May 21, 2017, 03:28 PM
May 2017

I wish the elephant had not died but at least she accomplished a final "fuck you" to asshole hunters.

sandensea

(21,624 posts)
20. I'm just sorry they didn't get his two clients.
Sun May 21, 2017, 03:41 PM
May 2017

The clients are the true culprits in my book, since their money keeps the whole dirty business going.

notdarkyet

(2,226 posts)
25. They were probably ooday and koosay. They love to big animal hunt. They have
Sun May 21, 2017, 03:57 PM
May 2017

Pictures of themselves on the web with a cheeta? Lion? They killed and also holding an elephant trunk they cut off from an elephant they killed.

sandensea

(21,624 posts)
40. If they ever do something akin to the Hunger Games, I nominate Eric and Donnie Trump
Sun May 21, 2017, 04:17 PM
May 2017

And may the odds be forever in their DISfavor.

sandensea

(21,624 posts)
56. And worst of all, too many of our fellow Americans admire cowardice like this.
Sun May 21, 2017, 04:57 PM
May 2017

Republicans see it as somehow "manly" - which of course says everything we really need to know about them.

sandensea

(21,624 posts)
23. And more good news form the article:
Sun May 21, 2017, 03:44 PM
May 2017

Botha was a good friend of Scott van Zyl's who was killed by crocodiles in Zimbabwe last month. Van Zyl, 44, was on a hunt at the Chikwaraka camp in Zimbabwe, when he disappeared on April 7.

His backpack was found on the banks of the Limpopo River and two crocodiles were shot during the extensive search for Van Zyl. DNA tests were done on samples taken of the crocodiles’ stomach contents, and it matched his.

Part of a Cat boot, similar to that which Van Zyl was wearing when he disappeared, was found in the stomach of a third crocodile which was shot on April 14. ···

Duppers

(28,120 posts)
24. I don't believe in karma but am happy this asshole
Sun May 21, 2017, 03:45 PM
May 2017

Was killed.

I do think elephants are sacred, for lack of a better term. They are especially intelligent and empathetic beings.

These hunters should experience the terror of being the hunted.


Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
57. You don't believe in karma. Nor do I. Glad the elephant
Sun May 21, 2017, 04:58 PM
May 2017

took him down though. Very sad for the elephants.

Often people put so much energy toward something they don't want, it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.
Also, if you wait long enough, things usually change directions, but not always when we want or need it the most. Sometimes, there are random ironies.

On the other hand, often the bad guy or evil wins. It isn't always true that he will get his...but it makes people feel better.

God, Force, love, energy, however someone views it, isn't all powerful, sometimes evil wins...Nazi Germany.
Nometheless, we will attempt make the world a happier, better, safer place.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
30. Vengeance
Sun May 21, 2017, 04:06 PM
May 2017

What can you say, sad for the loss of the elephant.

Just what the fuck are these idiots thinking! Kill an elephant?....for what! G'damned idiots! Scourge of the earth. Good riddance!

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
61. The trophy, to put beside the bear, tiger, and lion heads,
Sun May 21, 2017, 05:21 PM
May 2017

At the vacation ranch or cabin. His friends can determine how big his penis is by the display. Even if he finds the bear hibernating w her cubs now, he can be the brave hunter. It's the same with sneaking up on the elephants w game hunters paid $100000 to isolate the elephants. Such brave warriors.

I would like to have international penaties of $1 million and 5 years in jail (for the guides, assistants, hunters, whatever, too), plus sanctions to the country of both the hunters and and their guides.

They sell these hunting packages, for $100k or more, telling the hunters in the brochures that there are too many elephants, and they will be helping to keep the population down. Unbelievable, I know, but the hunters justify their actions.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
58. I kept waiting for the Dems to go w this in a camp ad.
Sun May 21, 2017, 05:04 PM
May 2017

Revolting and hard to look at, but this is who they are. Love of animals crosses party lines. Repubs have their lap dogs. The one w Eric in the photo too justs speaks, Trump. Damage and destroy life and freedom.

These two DT adult childten are fair game
They were active in the campaign.

 

Le Gaucher

(1,547 posts)
42. Human garbage masquerading as human died
Sun May 21, 2017, 04:23 PM
May 2017

There, I fixed it for you.

I would have called him Sub-human garbage - but killing other animals for sport, is uniquely human. So human garbage is appropriate.

tblue37

(65,328 posts)
54. He was cruel and would have continued his viciousness. The elephant was innocent.
Sun May 21, 2017, 04:55 PM
May 2017

This man's death has spared the lives of innumerable animals.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

I don't mourn Roger Ailes, either.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
66. Other than simple self-righteousness, for what specific and relevant purposes?
Mon May 22, 2017, 10:45 AM
May 2017

"Please note that a human being lost his life..."

Other than simple self-righteousness, for what specific and relevant purposes?

Coventina

(27,101 posts)
67. Oh please. The elephant was the much bigger loss.
Mon May 22, 2017, 10:48 AM
May 2017

In fact, every creature he ever killed was worth more than him.

Trophy hunters are scum.

(I apologize to scum, scum is actually better than that guy).

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
70. A human being that devoted much of his life to killing.
Tue May 23, 2017, 01:14 AM
May 2017

And not killing out of necessity or in self-defense, but solely for the sake of money and ego.

I'm sorry for whatever pain his family is feeling, but there's little you can say for his "humanity".

IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
59. Elephants are among the few animals who memorialize their dead
Sun May 21, 2017, 05:05 PM
May 2017

My condolences to the elephant's family and friends. I hope she lived a good life and they take care of her baby elephants if she has any.


Ligyron

(7,627 posts)
62. Wonder what breed of dogs those are?
Sun May 21, 2017, 05:45 PM
May 2017

Last edited Sun May 21, 2017, 07:36 PM - Edit history (1)

Maybe we could use some to flush out fat cats?

I think a dying elephant is going to fall on some politicians in the US.

on edit: They are Slovakian Kopov a type of hound.

Jack-o-Lantern

(966 posts)
63. The death of that worthless scum brings me the kind of joy
Sun May 21, 2017, 10:30 PM
May 2017

I experience when a pitifully hurt dying bull gores a matador... hopefully to death.

inwiththenew

(972 posts)
68. Sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes the bear eats you
Mon May 22, 2017, 10:50 AM
May 2017

African big game hunting is inherently dangerous and he knew the risks involved.

niyad

(113,259 posts)
69. "It's not nice to fool Mother Nature"
Mon May 22, 2017, 01:52 PM
May 2017

Botha was a good friend of Scott van Zyl's who was killed by crocodiles in Zimbabwe last month. Van Zyl, 44, was on a hunt at the Chikwaraka camp in Zimbabwe, when he disappeared on April 7.

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