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Sun May 21, 2017, 02:56 PM

 

This Melanie Trump tweet - does she not see the irony?

Melania Trump‏
Enjoyed talking to the incredible women working hard @GE_Saudi service center. Great strides being made towards the empowerment of women.

:large
A few of those women don't look especially empowered.

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Reply This Melanie Trump tweet - does she not see the irony? (Original post)
oberliner May 2017 OP
trueblue2007 May 2017 #1
oberliner May 2017 #3
Siwsan May 2017 #2
Doodley May 2017 #4
lunasun May 2017 #9
BigmanPigman May 2017 #34
Cha May 2017 #36
lunasun May 2017 #5
emulatorloo May 2017 #6
oberliner May 2017 #8
emulatorloo May 2017 #10
oberliner May 2017 #12
SunSeeker May 2017 #32
BigmanPigman May 2017 #35
SunSeeker May 2017 #39
3catwoman3 May 2017 #30
yuiyoshida May 2017 #7
emulatorloo May 2017 #11
Thomas Hurt May 2017 #13
sheshe2 May 2017 #14
uppityperson May 2017 #15
Doreen May 2017 #16
Amaryllis May 2017 #17
mdbl May 2017 #18
Amaryllis May 2017 #19
MFM008 May 2017 #20
MFM008 May 2017 #21
elleng May 2017 #28
Chemisse May 2017 #29
dalton99a May 2017 #22
progressoid May 2017 #23
dalton99a May 2017 #24
Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #26
Leith May 2017 #25
Squinch May 2017 #33
elleng May 2017 #27
Chemisse May 2017 #31
oberliner May 2017 #40
SunSeeker May 2017 #42
oberliner May 2017 #43
spiderpig May 2017 #44
muriel_volestrangler May 2017 #37
left-of-center2012 May 2017 #38
oberliner May 2017 #41

Response to oberliner (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 02:59 PM

1. none of the women look empowered. THIS IS AN AWFUL LOOKING PICTURE

i pity those ladies. slaves to men, never having a good life. my heart goes out to them

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Response to trueblue2007 (Reply #1)

Sun May 21, 2017, 03:01 PM

3. Likewise

 

Saudi Arabia is the home of the most fundamentalist, most oppressive version of Islam in the world.

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Response to oberliner (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 03:00 PM

2. Judas Freaking Priest!!

I suspect that Melania does what she's told and not much more.

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Response to oberliner (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 03:02 PM

4. Very ironic. And why no head scarf. Very insulting.

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Response to Doodley (Reply #4)

Sun May 21, 2017, 03:04 PM

9. Lol the hypocrisy IOKIYAR Why are you making enemies Melania ?

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Response to lunasun (Reply #9)

Sun May 21, 2017, 05:21 PM

34. Also hypocrisy with Jared and Ivanka flying on the Sabbath.

They got a rabbi's permission so it's OK if they do it. Everything is OK if THEY do it.

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Response to lunasun (Reply #9)

Sun May 21, 2017, 05:32 PM

36. isn't trump making Enough Enemies for you, melania?!

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Response to oberliner (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 03:02 PM

5. They don't look that excited about meeting with her either

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Response to oberliner (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 03:02 PM

6. I sort of doubt Melania has ever seen her own twitter feed.

Seems more like a John Miller or Meredith McIver production.

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Response to emulatorloo (Reply #6)

Sun May 21, 2017, 03:03 PM

8. Good point

 

But she did pose for the photo.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #8)

Sun May 21, 2017, 03:07 PM

10. Indeed she did. Thanks for posting it.

A bit off topic, but I think you will find this thread interesting:

Trump supporters' heads, SCANNERS EDITION, after he calls Islam "one of worlds great faiths"
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029097850

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Response to emulatorloo (Reply #10)

Sun May 21, 2017, 03:13 PM

12. The RW Trump hacks don't even seem to be covering this trip

 

Their Twitter feeds appear to be about everything but Trump in Saudi Arabia.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #12)

Sun May 21, 2017, 05:07 PM

32. And for very good reason. The optics are horrible to the base.

They're afraid they'll react like Roger Stone just did.:




I don't think Stone even realizes Trump curtsied to King Salman after the King put the medal on his neck, he wad just pissed off at the picture of the bow for the medal. Stone doesn't watch MSM news, and Fox sure didn't show the curtsy. In fact they ran a false headline that "Trump shakes hands with Saudi leader, doesn't bow as Obama appeared to do," showing Trump at the airport, not the medal ceremony.

Wait till his base gets a load of Trump's curtsy:



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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #32)

Sun May 21, 2017, 05:26 PM

35. Stone wrote "#Jaredsidea" as if it was Jared's recommendation.

It WAS Jared's idea to fire Comey. Does Stone dislike Jared, Bannon or both?

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #35)

Sun May 21, 2017, 06:28 PM

39. The advisors all hate each other, like the pit of vipers they are. nt

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Response to oberliner (Reply #8)

Sun May 21, 2017, 04:58 PM

30. Striking a pose...

...is all I ever see her do.

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Response to oberliner (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 03:03 PM

7. Waiting for the President to get the idea that

Melania would look great in a Burka. Maybe he will buy her one.

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Response to yuiyoshida (Reply #7)

Sun May 21, 2017, 03:10 PM

11. Pence would definitely go for that.

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Response to oberliner (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 03:15 PM

13. Did they give the Mutaween the day off?

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Response to oberliner (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 03:18 PM

14. OFFS!

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Response to oberliner (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 03:43 PM

15. What strides! Only 2/7 are in full burqa.

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Response to oberliner (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 03:45 PM

16. I have a feeling that what they say about Ivanka's speech being great and acting happy

about getting a picture with Melania is an order given to them by their men. How can Melania encourage them to be successful when she is not far from where they are as far as being respected from her husband. No matter how successful Melania and Ivanka might be it would not surprise them in the least if they saw trump treat either one of them badly because no matter how successful a woman in that country may be she is still under the tight rule of a man and if you really think about their success it is really the mans because they are only doing what they are allowed or told to do.

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Response to oberliner (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 03:59 PM

17. Unlike her hubby, her tweets are probably approved before sending.

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Response to Amaryllis (Reply #17)

Sun May 21, 2017, 04:05 PM

18. Approved by who? Her husband?

Because that's how it appears - and that is the Saudi way.

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Response to mdbl (Reply #18)

Sun May 21, 2017, 04:07 PM

19. Ivanka, Jared, any number of teh dozens who went along on the trip. I dont think her husband pays

that much attention to her.

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Response to oberliner (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 04:27 PM

20. When I lived I Libya

I thought the covered ones were all burned or horribly deformed....

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Response to MFM008 (Reply #20)

Sun May 21, 2017, 04:28 PM

21. I was 5 at the time

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Response to MFM008 (Reply #21)

Sun May 21, 2017, 04:56 PM

28. Right, suggesting there was and probably is a lot more to understand

than mere appearance.

Thanks.

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Response to MFM008 (Reply #21)

Sun May 21, 2017, 04:57 PM

29. That kind of head gear leaves a lot to the imagination of a small child.

It's very creepy.

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Response to oberliner (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 04:33 PM

22. She's impervious to irony

and she couldn't care less

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #22)

Sun May 21, 2017, 04:48 PM

23. Like how she was going to combat online bullying as first lady,

while her husband is one of the biggest online bullies.

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Response to progressoid (Reply #23)

Sun May 21, 2017, 04:50 PM

24. Yep, that was a textbook example

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Response to progressoid (Reply #23)

Sun May 21, 2017, 04:53 PM

26. All show. Haven't heard a peep from her about it since. But if she is sincere then


... then it is a dig at her husband: Back off!

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Response to oberliner (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 04:52 PM

25. Umm.... the Sign Behind Them?

TATA Consultant Services? It looks like somebody didn't think that through well enough.

Look at it this way: some of them have decorations on their burkas and two of them are ninjas!



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Response to Leith (Reply #25)

Sun May 21, 2017, 05:08 PM

33. Tata is an enormous global company.

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Response to oberliner (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 04:55 PM

27. It is wrong to equate women's wardrobes with their empowerment.

One MUST understand their cultures.

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Response to elleng (Reply #27)

Sun May 21, 2017, 05:05 PM

31. You make a good point.

And I am fine with most of the garb. I have a lot of Arabic students who wear head coverings. They can be really pretty and stylish.

I just have a hard time getting past the burka. It screams out 'I am a prisoner.' Even if the women who wear them are on board with this on religious grounds, they have to be hot, uncomfortable, and physically and visually restrictive.

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Response to elleng (Reply #27)

Sun May 21, 2017, 06:44 PM

40. A woman cannot travel, attend university, work, or marry without her guardian's permission.

 

To add some context.

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Response to elleng (Reply #27)

Sun May 21, 2017, 06:51 PM

42. A woman in a burqa is not empowered. She is imprisoned in a restrictive, suffocating cloth sack.

No cultural tradition justifies it. None. The Koran does not require a burqa for women. Burqas are very different than a mere head scarf. A head scarf does not cover a person's face or obliterate their identity, impede their ability to see, or dehumanize them.

I can't believe a progressive would defend burqas and attack other progressives as being ignorant about "culture" simply for pointing out the obvious about burqas.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #42)

Mon May 22, 2017, 06:38 AM

43. Well put

 

Thanks for this post.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #42)

Mon May 22, 2017, 07:20 AM

44. How can a woman navigate a flight of stairs in that thing?

Or cross a street?

Is this one of those time-travel tours back to the 7th century?

Melania must be renegotiating her prenup to go along with this.

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Response to oberliner (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 05:55 PM

37. A test of empowerment: how many men are those women in charge of?

(Given Saudi Arabia's attitude to non citizens, perhaps that should be "how many Saudi Arabian men are those women in charge of?"

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Response to oberliner (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 06:04 PM

38. What would happen if those women went out looking like her?

I'm guessing they'd be arrested and beaten by a cane.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Reply #38)

Sun May 21, 2017, 06:46 PM

41. If they said they didn't believe in Islam anymore, they'd be beheaded

 

This is from April of this year:

SADUI MAN SENTENCED TO DEATH AFTER DECLARING HIMSELF AN ATHEIST IN ONLINE VIDEO

A Saudi Arabian man who posted videos of himself disparaging the Prophet Muhammad and renouncing Islam on Twitter had his second appeal against a 2015 death sentence denied earlier this week.

http://www.newsweek.com/saudi-man-sentenced-death-after-declaring-himself-atheist-online-video-591473

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