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Sun May 21, 2017, 05:52 PM

Put the Russia story on the periphery & tackle our real problems now

It seems I opened up a can of worms in our country's largest Liberal site, DailyKos, for which I am a contributing editor. I am sharing because I think the topic is important. The article generated several articles, some in agreement that we are spending too many resources on Russia and not on working class issues. Others were outright mad at even questioning the issue.

Check out all of the articles written by the passionate authors ab0ve. I am of the belief that crowdsourcing opinions and ideas are important in our movement. It can be difficult to some because the blowback can be vicious and sometimes outright offensive. But we are Democracy and will survive the battle of ideas and opinions.

https://egbertowillies.com/2017/05/21/put-the-russia-story-on-the-periphery-tackle-our-real-problems-now/

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Response to egbertowillies (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 06:07 PM

1. You are correct but you are figjting human nature

which loves gossip and scandal. How do we ignore our emotional brains that love to read about peeing prostitutes and immature meltdowns.in the White Hoise and instead get down to serious stuff like making policy. Maybe you can talk about this in a future blog?

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Response to egbertowillies (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 06:13 PM

2. No thanks- we can do both. Why cover for Trump unless you want him to stay...

 

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #2)

Sun May 21, 2017, 06:24 PM

4. People knew Trump was corrupt

but they voted for him anyway. They don't care if he is corrupt, they just want their own concerns addressed. We need a message other than "Trump sucks."

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Response to marylandblue (Reply #4)

Sun May 21, 2017, 06:38 PM

6. Trump is an unprecedented disaster in so many ways- all must be fought.

 

I'm only seeing the let's ignore Russia crap from people who disliked Hillary. I'm guessing they pushed he RT crap themselves and you know what- they OWN that. "Nothing to see here" isn't going to be sufficient. We need some honesty around this.

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #6)

Sun May 21, 2017, 06:43 PM

9. yup, and it was hillary who was accused of all the shit that is true of trump

but we can't say it about trump ???????? WTFFFf

trump supporters claiming he was some great businessman and deal maker and other shit . all of it crap.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #9)

Sun May 21, 2017, 06:47 PM

10. Yeah I guess since "everyone's corrupt" we can't take a hard look at Trump....

 

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Response to egbertowillies (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 06:16 PM

3. Or we blast the shit out of him and ride a wave into office in 2018 & 2020

We drive out as many repukes as we can and we (indirectly) shame those who voted for them so that if we get our internal democratic shit together, we skate to victory.

No mercy. No quarter.

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Response to egbertowillies (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 06:30 PM

5. We have no power to work on our issues. We need to regain power first

 

Getting rid of Trump is the very important as is taking back Congress

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Response to egbertowillies (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 06:42 PM

7. republicans control the govt. and the presidency because of russia's interference . so NO

we can't tackle problems without addressing the russia issue.

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Response to egbertowillies (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 06:43 PM

8. I can walk and chew bubble gum at the same time.

No need to push one aside when I can handle both.

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Response to Exilednight (Reply #8)

Sun May 21, 2017, 06:52 PM

11. Think you are missing the point

Right now we are mostly talking about Trump. It's easy, there is a lot to take about. But if your main message is "Trump sucks," that doesn't autaricallyean everyone is going to shoe up and vote Democratic next time.

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Response to marylandblue (Reply #11)

Sun May 21, 2017, 07:18 PM

13. I'm not missing the point. It is possible to multitask.

It's not about having a "main message". It's about having a unified voice.

2008 taught me that the electorate can handle several issues at once, as long as everyone within the party is giving the same response to each issue.

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Response to Exilednight (Reply #13)

Sun May 21, 2017, 07:59 PM

14. Sure but is that what we are doing now?

We are speaking with one voice on Trump, but on what other issues have Democrats created a unified positive meesage, and if so, how many ordinary people do you think know what it is?

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Response to marylandblue (Reply #14)

Sun May 21, 2017, 08:51 PM

15. To answer your question: the ACA.

We're speaking with a unified voice about the ACA.

Let's be honest, focusing on any other issues is pointless until Democratic leadership gets their act together. The DNC is in disarray, Schumer can't unify Democrats behind anything of substance, and no one is focusing on lower level government.

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Response to Exilednight (Reply #8)

Sun May 21, 2017, 08:52 PM

16. Precisely.

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Response to egbertowillies (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 07:00 PM

12. You know, its bad enough we have to contend w/ gerrymandering and voter suppression

I think Russia is a very big issue that has a little to do with Trump but has major consequences down the road. Meaning, if this happened once, they'll happily do it again. No matter the message, if Russia or any other foreign state sees a positive outcome by tampering with our elections, no message we come up with will matter.

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