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egbertowillies

(4,058 posts)
Sun May 21, 2017, 05:52 PM May 2017

Put the Russia story on the periphery & tackle our real problems now

It seems I opened up a can of worms in our country's largest Liberal site, DailyKos, for which I am a contributing editor. I am sharing because I think the topic is important. The article generated several articles, some in agreement that we are spending too many resources on Russia and not on working class issues. Others were outright mad at even questioning the issue.

Check out all of the articles written by the passionate authors ab0ve. I am of the belief that crowdsourcing opinions and ideas are important in our movement. It can be difficult to some because the blowback can be vicious and sometimes outright offensive. But we are Democracy and will survive the battle of ideas and opinions.

https://egbertowillies.com/2017/05/21/put-the-russia-story-on-the-periphery-tackle-our-real-problems-now/

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marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
1. You are correct but you are figjting human nature
Sun May 21, 2017, 06:07 PM
May 2017

which loves gossip and scandal. How do we ignore our emotional brains that love to read about peeing prostitutes and immature meltdowns.in the White Hoise and instead get down to serious stuff like making policy. Maybe you can talk about this in a future blog?

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
4. People knew Trump was corrupt
Sun May 21, 2017, 06:24 PM
May 2017

but they voted for him anyway. They don't care if he is corrupt, they just want their own concerns addressed. We need a message other than "Trump sucks."

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
6. Trump is an unprecedented disaster in so many ways- all must be fought.
Sun May 21, 2017, 06:38 PM
May 2017

I'm only seeing the let's ignore Russia crap from people who disliked Hillary. I'm guessing they pushed he RT crap themselves and you know what- they OWN that. "Nothing to see here" isn't going to be sufficient. We need some honesty around this.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
9. yup, and it was hillary who was accused of all the shit that is true of trump
Sun May 21, 2017, 06:43 PM
May 2017

but we can't say it about trump ???????? WTFFFf

trump supporters claiming he was some great businessman and deal maker and other shit . all of it crap.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
3. Or we blast the shit out of him and ride a wave into office in 2018 & 2020
Sun May 21, 2017, 06:16 PM
May 2017

We drive out as many repukes as we can and we (indirectly) shame those who voted for them so that if we get our internal democratic shit together, we skate to victory.

No mercy. No quarter.

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
5. We have no power to work on our issues. We need to regain power first
Sun May 21, 2017, 06:30 PM
May 2017

Getting rid of Trump is the very important as is taking back Congress

JI7

(89,247 posts)
7. republicans control the govt. and the presidency because of russia's interference . so NO
Sun May 21, 2017, 06:42 PM
May 2017

we can't tackle problems without addressing the russia issue.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
11. Think you are missing the point
Sun May 21, 2017, 06:52 PM
May 2017

Right now we are mostly talking about Trump. It's easy, there is a lot to take about. But if your main message is "Trump sucks," that doesn't autaricallyean everyone is going to shoe up and vote Democratic next time.

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
13. I'm not missing the point. It is possible to multitask.
Sun May 21, 2017, 07:18 PM
May 2017

It's not about having a "main message". It's about having a unified voice.

2008 taught me that the electorate can handle several issues at once, as long as everyone within the party is giving the same response to each issue.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
14. Sure but is that what we are doing now?
Sun May 21, 2017, 07:59 PM
May 2017

We are speaking with one voice on Trump, but on what other issues have Democrats created a unified positive meesage, and if so, how many ordinary people do you think know what it is?

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
15. To answer your question: the ACA.
Sun May 21, 2017, 08:51 PM
May 2017

We're speaking with a unified voice about the ACA.

Let's be honest, focusing on any other issues is pointless until Democratic leadership gets their act together. The DNC is in disarray, Schumer can't unify Democrats behind anything of substance, and no one is focusing on lower level government.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
12. You know, its bad enough we have to contend w/ gerrymandering and voter suppression
Sun May 21, 2017, 07:00 PM
May 2017

I think Russia is a very big issue that has a little to do with Trump but has major consequences down the road. Meaning, if this happened once, they'll happily do it again. No matter the message, if Russia or any other foreign state sees a positive outcome by tampering with our elections, no message we come up with will matter.

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