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Sun May 21, 2017, 06:53 PM

Woman Charged for Pointing Gun at Teen Allegedly Raping Dog

Woman Charged for Pointing Gun at Teen Allegedly Raping Dog

An Arkansas woman is facing a felony charge after pointing a gun at a teenage boy who she says was sexually assaulting her neighbor’s dog.

Kerrie Lenkerd told police in Centerton, a northwest Arkansas town, that she looked out a window and saw the teen with "the dog he raped last time."

"I got my gun out of my safe and went out my back door," Lenkerd told police, according to a court filing. "I told him to get on the f---ing ground and pointed my gun at him."

The boy, identified only as NM, 14 years old, in court documents, jumped over a fence and ran. As he fled, Lenkerd fired a shot into the grass "to scare him," she said.

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2017-05-08/woman-who-pointed-gun-at-teen-accused-of-raping-dog-charged-with-aggravated-assault

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Reply Woman Charged for Pointing Gun at Teen Allegedly Raping Dog (Original post)
sarisataka May 2017 OP
NutmegYankee May 2017 #1
sarisataka May 2017 #2
Iggo May 2017 #3
enough May 2017 #10
sarah FAILIN May 2017 #4
ProudLib72 May 2017 #5
Duppers May 2017 #12
LisaL May 2017 #16
ProudLib72 May 2017 #19
LisaL May 2017 #23
maveric May 2017 #6
Duppers May 2017 #13
nolabear May 2017 #26
JI7 May 2017 #7
LisaL May 2017 #17
JI7 May 2017 #18
LisaL May 2017 #24
JI7 May 2017 #25
LisaL May 2017 #28
TheFrenchRazor May 2017 #40
Beaverhausen May 2017 #39
DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #8
dalton99a May 2017 #32
blueinredohio May 2017 #36
Starry Messenger May 2017 #9
Doreen May 2017 #14
Duppers May 2017 #11
Sancho May 2017 #21
LOL Lib May 2017 #29
Sancho May 2017 #31
Lee-Lee May 2017 #44
Laffy Kat May 2017 #15
Lee-Lee May 2017 #43
krispos42 May 2017 #20
TheFrenchRazor May 2017 #41
sinkingfeeling May 2017 #22
gordianot May 2017 #27
moriah May 2017 #30
ProudLib72 May 2017 #34
moriah May 2017 #35
Adsos Letter May 2017 #37
pansypoo53219 May 2017 #33
Bayard May 2017 #38
Lee-Lee May 2017 #42

Response to sarisataka (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 06:57 PM

1. Charges probably have more to do with firing a shot to scare the kid.

It's pretty much always illegal to fire a shot to scare someone who poses no threat to you.

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Response to NutmegYankee (Reply #1)

Sun May 21, 2017, 07:00 PM

2. According to her attorney,

the charges are for pointing the gun, not firing a shot.

In my mind shooting, even into the ground, would be the chargeable action as the teen was fleeing according to her.

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Response to sarisataka (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 07:03 PM

3. Gunfucker vs Dogfucker.

Charge them both to the fullest.

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Response to Iggo (Reply #3)

Sun May 21, 2017, 07:12 PM

10. Right on. NT

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Response to sarisataka (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 07:05 PM

4. Well he left his pants and ipad behind when he jumped the fence..

I don't know why the woman is being charged myself when she was trying to hold him for the cops since they wouldn't do anything the last time the kid raped the dog

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Response to sarisataka (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 07:07 PM

5. Gun versus cell phone vid

Which would be more damaging to the perp in the long run, firing a gun into the ground "to scare him" or taking a vid and posting it on youtube?

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Response to ProudLib72 (Reply #5)

Sun May 21, 2017, 07:19 PM

12. Exactly.

Sorry I didn't read your post before posting below.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Reply #5)

Sun May 21, 2017, 07:33 PM

16. So I guess the dog doesn't matter?

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Response to LisaL (Reply #16)

Sun May 21, 2017, 07:44 PM

19. You can't seriously be asking this

And how do you propose to keep the dog safe? The cops didn't do anything to him the last time he raped the dog. If you're going to take the law into your own hands, you'd best do it intelligently. If a vid of him goes viral on youtube, he is going to think twice about trying to rape a dog.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Reply #19)

Sun May 21, 2017, 07:55 PM

23. Well, since he is a minor, if you tape him and put it on you tube, you'd likely get locked

up for manufacturing and distribution of child porn.
So, sorry, I don't find this a good idea, even if you ignore the dog.

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Response to maveric (Reply #6)

Sun May 21, 2017, 07:21 PM

13. Ewwww.

Really? If so, that's truly sad.


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Response to Duppers (Reply #13)

Sun May 21, 2017, 08:02 PM

26. No, it's not true. It's just an opportunity to broad brush people.

This was horrid, and there are horrid things that have been done by people in Arkansas. But that statement was uncalled for.

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Response to sarisataka (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 07:08 PM

7. why didn't she record it and turn it in to the cops ?

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Response to JI7 (Reply #7)

Sun May 21, 2017, 07:34 PM

17. Maybe she wanted to prevent the alleged rape of the dog?

Apparently to some people the dog is an inanimate object.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #17)

Sun May 21, 2017, 07:37 PM

18. they weren't doing anything about it

in this case proof of it would have stopped it .

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Response to JI7 (Reply #18)

Sun May 21, 2017, 07:57 PM

24. Well, she did something about it.

jeez.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #24)

Sun May 21, 2017, 07:58 PM

25. so you think he isn't going to come back and try to rape the dog or other dogs again ?

is she always going to be there with a gun to stop him ?

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Response to JI7 (Reply #25)

Sun May 21, 2017, 08:06 PM

28. Per the article, police say the boy had been charged.

So I have no idea what you you are trying to argue here.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #17)

Mon May 22, 2017, 03:09 AM

40. some people really just don't care about animals; no amount of reason will change it. nt

 

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Response to JI7 (Reply #7)

Mon May 22, 2017, 12:18 AM

39. what if he was raping a child?

stop the teen or record it for the cops?

Now picture your own pet as the victim...

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Response to sarisataka (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 07:10 PM

8. Was a Huckabee involved ?

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #8)

Sun May 21, 2017, 08:46 PM

32. +1

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #8)

Sun May 21, 2017, 10:47 PM

36. I was going to say the same thing

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Response to sarisataka (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 07:11 PM

9. I'm old enough to remember DUers who agreed that pointing a gun at someone without firing it

should be a felony when in involved fending off an abusive spouse.

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Response to Starry Messenger (Reply #9)

Sun May 21, 2017, 07:30 PM

14. That is just stupid.

It goes on the same line of where I live. I do not know how it works in the rest of the country but if the police respond to a domestic violence BOTH people are arrested. It does not matter if the abused is in a quivering bloody ball in the corner. They are taken to the hospital then the police station.

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Response to sarisataka (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 07:17 PM

11. How should she have stopped him?

Call police? Would they come or have gotten there in time? And wouldn't it then have been a she-said, he-said thing?

Getting a video would convict the kid, but would a judge in a small AK town sentence him?

And it would either of these things have stopped the dog's immediate pain? No.

Poor dog.


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Response to Duppers (Reply #11)

Sun May 21, 2017, 07:50 PM

21. police would likely have shot the dog...

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Response to Sancho (Reply #21)

Sun May 21, 2017, 08:18 PM

29. Right?

I'm thankful the lady protected the dog. I know I'm going to get snarky replies, but the only thing the lady did wrong was shooting at the ground instead of the dog raper. No I don't care if he was running away. Anyone that would rape an animal is not going to grow into being a productive member of society.

Let the complaints and alerts begin, I stand by my opinion.

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Response to LOL Lib (Reply #29)

Sun May 21, 2017, 08:45 PM

31. I'm with you...

of course, here in Fl you could have likely shot the guy and claimed "stand your ground" or something.

The police would likely be useless.

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Response to Duppers (Reply #11)

Mon May 22, 2017, 06:43 AM

44. The right answer is confront, armed, but don't point the gun

 

Because the line beteeen armed for self defense in case it's needed and assault is crossed when you point the gun at a person not posing a threat to you or another person.

That, and no stupid shot into the ground.

The teen still would have fled.

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Response to sarisataka (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 07:30 PM

15. That is a seriously disturbed 14-year-old. nt

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Response to Laffy Kat (Reply #15)

Mon May 22, 2017, 06:40 AM

43. Animal rape is kind of common among developmentally disabled males

 

We had at least 3 group homes in the county I worked in that had residents known to do it if they got away from the facility.

It became the subject of a pretty big lawsuit between the company that ran one and a family who had their young children look out the window and see a man in his 40's going at it with their pet goat, several deputies I worked with ended up having to give depositions and one had to testify in the case.

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Response to sarisataka (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 07:48 PM

20. Seems to me she was stopping a felony.

I'd give her a slap on the wrist for the unnecessary discharge and toss the kid in a metal hospital.

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Response to krispos42 (Reply #20)

Mon May 22, 2017, 03:12 AM

41. word. nt

 

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Response to sarisataka (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 07:53 PM

22. Damn, Centerton is only 28 miles from where I live. It all may

spread out of Bentonville County into mine.

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Response to sarisataka (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 08:03 PM

27. In 4 years he could vote for Trump not that different.

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Response to sarisataka (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 08:27 PM

30. Charges against her were dropped.

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Response to moriah (Reply #30)

Sun May 21, 2017, 09:11 PM

34. Now that's some sleuthing



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Response to ProudLib72 (Reply #34)

Sun May 21, 2017, 09:57 PM

35. Thanks. The witness statements are interesting.

I still think she acted in defense of another, and it's also permissible to use force here in a "choice of evils" situation:

http://law.justia.com/codes/arkansas/2010/title-5/subtitle-1/chapter-2/subchapter-6/5-2-604/

(a) Conduct that would otherwise constitute an offense is justifiable when:

(1) The conduct is necessary as an emergency measure to avoid an imminent public or private injury; and

(2) According to ordinary standards of reasonableness, the desirability and urgency of avoiding the imminent public or private injury outweigh the injury sought to be prevented by the law proscribing the conduct.

(b) Justification under this section shall not rest upon a consideration pertaining to the morality or advisability of the statute defining the offense charged.

(c) If the actor is reckless or negligent in bringing about the situation requiring a choice of evils or in appraising the necessity for his or her conduct, the justification afforded by this section is unavailable in a prosecution for any offense for which recklessness or negligence, as the case may be, suffices to establish a culpable mental state.

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Response to moriah (Reply #35)

Sun May 21, 2017, 11:13 PM

37. Per the police report:

According to the interview conducted when the kid and his mom came into the police station, he admitted he was only wearing underwear when he fled the scene.

I wonder how he tried to explain that to the cops?

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Response to sarisataka (Original post)

Sun May 21, 2017, 08:57 PM

33. what kind of cut did the dog have to entice said boy?

too much make up? heels? a mini skirt. obviously it had to be the dogs fault. she flirted.

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Response to sarisataka (Original post)

Mon May 22, 2017, 12:02 AM

38. So where's the dog's owner?

What do they have to say about this, especially since its the second time the little pervert was caught in the act? I'm assuming this is a small dog that could be easily overpowered. Is it injured?

I put this in the same category as raping human babies. Sick, sick, sick.

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Response to sarisataka (Original post)

Mon May 22, 2017, 06:36 AM

42. Every state is different but in most states that wouldn't be a permissible use of force

 

Because in most states they require it to be used only in defense of ones self or another person and the big isn't a person but legally is property.

Now you could arm yourself and go confront the teen without pointing the gun at them and be legal in most places, because at that point your just armed in case of need for self defense. The difference between having a gun in case you need to defend yourself and assault is pointing it at somebody.

As for the "warning shot" its absolutely a bad idea no matter what. She it least put it into the ground and if that was legal will depend on if she was inside city limits and if not how close she was to another dwelling and Arkansas laws on that.

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