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An Arkansas woman is facing a felony charge after pointing a gun at a teenage boy who she says was sexually assaulting her neighbors dog.
Kerrie Lenkerd told police in Centerton, a northwest Arkansas town, that she looked out a window and saw the teen with "the dog he raped last time."
"I got my gun out of my safe and went out my back door," Lenkerd told police, according to a court filing. "I told him to get on the f---ing ground and pointed my gun at him."
The boy, identified only as NM, 14 years old, in court documents, jumped over a fence and ran. As he fled, Lenkerd fired a shot into the grass "to scare him," she said.
https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2017-05-08/woman-who-pointed-gun-at-teen-accused-of-raping-dog-charged-with-aggravated-assault
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)It's pretty much always illegal to fire a shot to scare someone who poses no threat to you.
sarisataka
(18,649 posts)the charges are for pointing the gun, not firing a shot.
In my mind shooting, even into the ground, would be the chargeable action as the teen was fleeing according to her.
Iggo
(47,552 posts)Charge them both to the fullest.
sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)I don't know why the woman is being charged myself when she was trying to hold him for the cops since they wouldn't do anything the last time the kid raped the dog
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Which would be more damaging to the perp in the long run, firing a gun into the ground "to scare him" or taking a vid and posting it on youtube?
Duppers
(28,120 posts)Sorry I didn't read your post before posting below.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)And how do you propose to keep the dog safe? The cops didn't do anything to him the last time he raped the dog. If you're going to take the law into your own hands, you'd best do it intelligently. If a vid of him goes viral on youtube, he is going to think twice about trying to rape a dog.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)up for manufacturing and distribution of child porn.
So, sorry, I don't find this a good idea, even if you ignore the dog.
Response to sarisataka (Original post)
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Really? If so, that's truly sad.
nolabear
(41,962 posts)This was horrid, and there are horrid things that have been done by people in Arkansas. But that statement was uncalled for.
JI7
(89,249 posts)LisaL
(44,973 posts)Apparently to some people the dog is an inanimate object.
JI7
(89,249 posts)in this case proof of it would have stopped it .
LisaL
(44,973 posts)jeez.
JI7
(89,249 posts)is she always going to be there with a gun to stop him ?
LisaL
(44,973 posts)So I have no idea what you you are trying to argue here.
TheFrenchRazor
(2,116 posts)Beaverhausen
(24,470 posts)stop the teen or record it for the cops?
Now picture your own pet as the victim...
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)dalton99a
(81,485 posts)blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)should be a felony when in involved fending off an abusive spouse.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)It goes on the same line of where I live. I do not know how it works in the rest of the country but if the police respond to a domestic violence BOTH people are arrested. It does not matter if the abused is in a quivering bloody ball in the corner. They are taken to the hospital then the police station.
Duppers
(28,120 posts)Call police? Would they come or have gotten there in time? And wouldn't it then have been a she-said, he-said thing?
Getting a video would convict the kid, but would a judge in a small AK town sentence him?
And it would either of these things have stopped the dog's immediate pain? No.
Poor dog.
Sancho
(9,070 posts)I'm thankful the lady protected the dog. I know I'm going to get snarky replies, but the only thing the lady did wrong was shooting at the ground instead of the dog raper. No I don't care if he was running away. Anyone that would rape an animal is not going to grow into being a productive member of society.
Let the complaints and alerts begin, I stand by my opinion.
Sancho
(9,070 posts)of course, here in Fl you could have likely shot the guy and claimed "stand your ground" or something.
The police would likely be useless.
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)Because the line beteeen armed for self defense in case it's needed and assault is crossed when you point the gun at a person not posing a threat to you or another person.
That, and no stupid shot into the ground.
The teen still would have fled.
Laffy Kat
(16,377 posts)Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)We had at least 3 group homes in the county I worked in that had residents known to do it if they got away from the facility.
It became the subject of a pretty big lawsuit between the company that ran one and a family who had their young children look out the window and see a man in his 40's going at it with their pet goat, several deputies I worked with ended up having to give depositions and one had to testify in the case.
krispos42
(49,445 posts)I'd give her a slap on the wrist for the unnecessary discharge and toss the kid in a metal hospital.
TheFrenchRazor
(2,116 posts)sinkingfeeling
(51,457 posts)spread out of Bentonville County into mine.
gordianot
(15,237 posts)moriah
(8,311 posts)I don't know if this link will work, but here is the docket report:
https://caseinfo.aoc.arkansas.gov/cconnect/PROD/public/ck_public_qry_doct.cp_dktrpt_frames?backto=P&case_id=04CR-17-781&begin_date=&end_date=
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)moriah
(8,311 posts)I still think she acted in defense of another, and it's also permissible to use force here in a "choice of evils" situation:
http://law.justia.com/codes/arkansas/2010/title-5/subtitle-1/chapter-2/subchapter-6/5-2-604/
(1) The conduct is necessary as an emergency measure to avoid an imminent public or private injury; and
(2) According to ordinary standards of reasonableness, the desirability and urgency of avoiding the imminent public or private injury outweigh the injury sought to be prevented by the law proscribing the conduct.
(b) Justification under this section shall not rest upon a consideration pertaining to the morality or advisability of the statute defining the offense charged.
(c) If the actor is reckless or negligent in bringing about the situation requiring a choice of evils or in appraising the necessity for his or her conduct, the justification afforded by this section is unavailable in a prosecution for any offense for which recklessness or negligence, as the case may be, suffices to establish a culpable mental state.
Adsos Letter
(19,459 posts)According to the interview conducted when the kid and his mom came into the police station, he admitted he was only wearing underwear when he fled the scene.
I wonder how he tried to explain that to the cops?
pansypoo53219
(20,976 posts)too much make up? heels? a mini skirt. obviously it had to be the dogs fault. she flirted.
Bayard
(22,069 posts)What do they have to say about this, especially since its the second time the little pervert was caught in the act? I'm assuming this is a small dog that could be easily overpowered. Is it injured?
I put this in the same category as raping human babies. Sick, sick, sick.
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)Because in most states they require it to be used only in defense of ones self or another person and the big isn't a person but legally is property.
Now you could arm yourself and go confront the teen without pointing the gun at them and be legal in most places, because at that point your just armed in case of need for self defense. The difference between having a gun in case you need to defend yourself and assault is pointing it at somebody.
As for the "warning shot" its absolutely a bad idea no matter what. She it least put it into the ground and if that was legal will depend on if she was inside city limits and if not how close she was to another dwelling and Arkansas laws on that.