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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Mon May 22, 2017, 08:14 AM May 2017

Jim Bakker: Imploding Trump "Presidency" is "the first horse of the apocalypse"

In an interview with Steve Strang of Charisma News on Thursday, Bakker warned of an assassination attempt against Trump, given that “the apocalypse has already begun.”

“There’s going to be an attempt on our president’s life very soon,” he stated. “The world is marching in the streets against our president, and it is a war.”

“This is the first horse of the apocalypse,” Bakker promised. “The apocalypse has already begun.”

According to Bakker, Trump’s opposition is “the spirit of the Antichrist,” fighting back against God’s miracle: the election of Trump. The strongest indicator of end times for Bakker was the cancellation of ABC’s “Last Man Standing” last week. The show starred Tim Allen, an anomalyous Trump supporter in Hollywood. Conservatives have blamed Allen’s political leanings for the show’s cancellation, despite offering no evidence to support their claims.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/right-wing-christians-have-some-insane-theories-about-why-the-trump-presidency-is-imploding/

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Jim Bakker: Imploding Trump "Presidency" is "the first horse of the apocalypse" (Original Post) Miles Archer May 2017 OP
Didn't that man put in a.c. for a dog house using $$$ he conned from little old ladies? Botany May 2017 #1
yes he did. He lived the life of the rich and famous off poor peoples donations luvMIdog May 2017 #3
Shut up Jim. You went to jail for stealing from old people luvMIdog May 2017 #2
Buy my buckets of swill in preperation!!!! HAB911 May 2017 #4
Bakker and Allen are first class assholes. roamer65 May 2017 #5
I disagree with Reverend Jim.... kentuck May 2017 #6
Hey Baker....FUCK OFF and DIE ok?? Bengus81 May 2017 #7
+1 dalton99a May 2017 #22
Partly agree..trump is a horse's ass.. don't think it's that particular horse... dembotoz May 2017 #8
Where in the book of Revelations.. flakey_foont May 2017 #9
It's right there in the book of Tim (Allen), chapter 2, verse 36 Miles Archer May 2017 #10
Durn dog chewed those pages flakey_foont May 2017 #13
"The Four Horses of the Apocalypse and the Donkey of Eternal Salvation" Donkees May 2017 #11
Giddy up, Jim. tanyev May 2017 #12
Boy some of these Xstians are really bad at the whole false idols thing. nt justiceischeap May 2017 #14
Let's not write this off too quickly gratuitous May 2017 #15
Ah, the grifter prepper swindler felon whack-a-doo speaks. HughBeaumont May 2017 #16
fuck off jim...cashing in on 'God' and 'trump' spanone May 2017 #17
Jim Bakker's crimes and conviction workinclasszero May 2017 #18
Bakker isn't talking to you. He's talking to Trump's base. mn9driver May 2017 #19
Baker bluestarone May 2017 #20
Jim Bakker is the 2nd horse's ass of the Apocalypse. Trump is the first. yellowcanine May 2017 #21

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
6. I disagree with Reverend Jim....
Mon May 22, 2017, 08:22 AM
May 2017

I think this is the third horse.

We will see a full catastrophe by the last day of August.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
7. Hey Baker....FUCK OFF and DIE ok??
Mon May 22, 2017, 08:23 AM
May 2017

You and your pray TV CON JOBS over the decades have swindled millions over the years from those who MOST couldn't afford to lose it. Your theme park back in the 80's was a time share CON like no other. I heard you'd have to live to be 200 years old to ever get a time share slot after paying out the nose to Jim and Tammy.

Your a POS Baker,follow Tammy will you??

flakey_foont

(3,338 posts)
9. Where in the book of Revelations..
Mon May 22, 2017, 08:26 AM
May 2017

is there mention that canceling a TV show is a sign of the impending Apocalypse? This guy is way off his rocker!!!

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
10. It's right there in the book of Tim (Allen), chapter 2, verse 36
Mon May 22, 2017, 08:30 AM
May 2017

PLEASE...do your homework before posting.



flakey_foont

(3,338 posts)
13. Durn dog chewed those pages
Mon May 22, 2017, 08:34 AM
May 2017

"PLEASE...do your homework before posting. "

- sounds like every teacher I have ever had>..

Donkees

(31,383 posts)
11. "The Four Horses of the Apocalypse and the Donkey of Eternal Salvation"
Mon May 22, 2017, 08:31 AM
May 2017

Excerpts:

Close Encounters: The Next 500 Years is an international exhibition of contemporary indigenous art presented by Winnipeg Cultural Capital of Canada 2010 and organized by Plug In Institute for Contemporary Art with a number of other Winnipeg galleries.

There is a deep work by Mary Anne Barkhouse entitled "The Four Horses of the Apocalypse and the Donkey of Eternal Salvation". The main part of this work is four riding horses -- the kind you would find at a mall and ride for 25 cents. Each was mapped to an apocalyptic element, which was displayed on a banner behind the horse. The banners were exquisitely done. The detail was well worth the examination to see elements of doom that the artist had worked into them. The donkey was small, white and did evoke the image of redemption. Very thought provoking.

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Curator Emily Falvey's interpretation is that gallery-goers who ride Barkhouse's apocalyptic horses are "taking an adventure in carnival-grotesque humiliation."

Barkhouse wants people to draw their own conclusions. The piece includes four "heraldic" banners that refer to environmental destruction, with images of industry, mining, farming and fishing practices.

"I'm hoping to get the viewer to consider: How are we going to ride this horse, which is technology, from here on in? Are we going to go to Armageddon one quarter at a time . . . or take this ride to a better place?"

The Donkey of Eternal Salvation is a wooden ass on wheels. "The horses are kind of flashy, but ultimately they're stationary," the artist says. "I was thinking of the cycles of violence and destruction that human society invariably seems to go through. Now, the donkey, he's small. He's kind of humble. He looks like an old-fashioned pull toy, but he's mobile.

"Maybe how we go forward in a better way is a very simple thing, as opposed to being technology-reliant."

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/arts-and-life/entertainment/arts/four-horsemen-reimagined-for-technological-age-114192369.html



gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
15. Let's not write this off too quickly
Mon May 22, 2017, 08:54 AM
May 2017

After all, in Revelation 13, there's an account of a head being wounded, apparently fatally, but the head recovers and the whole world wonders after it. That head belongs to the antichrist, though, so maybe that's not what Jim's talking about when he warns of an assassination attempt.

You're sure you're looking through the right end of the telescope there, Jim?

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
16. Ah, the grifter prepper swindler felon whack-a-doo speaks.
Mon May 22, 2017, 08:56 AM
May 2017

Do any of these Bible Literalists ever hear themselves speak?

It's the greatest argument for becoming atheist.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
18. Jim Bakker's crimes and conviction
Mon May 22, 2017, 08:58 AM
May 2017
Fraud conviction and incarceration

Following a 16-month Federal grand jury probe, Bakker was indicted in 1988 on eight counts of mail fraud, 15 counts of wire fraud and one count of conspiracy.[8][14] In 1989, after a five-week trial which began on August 28 in Charlotte, the jury found him guilty on all 24 counts, and Judge Robert Daniel Potter sentenced him to 45 years in federal prison and a $500,000 fine.[5]:52[15]

He served time in the Federal Medical Center, Rochester, in Rochester, Minnesota, sharing a cell with activist Lyndon LaRouche and skydiver Roger Nelson.[16]

In February 1991, the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit upheld Bakker's conviction on the fraud and conspiracy charges, but voided Bakker's 45-year sentence, as well as the $500,000 fine, and ordered that a new sentencing hearing be held. The court held that Potter's statement at sentencing that Bakker's actions resulted in "those of us who do have a religion" being lampooned as "saps from money-grubbing preachers or priests" was evidence that he had injected his own religious beliefs into considering Bakker's sentence.[17]

Jim and Tammy Bakker were divorced on March 13, 1992. On November 16, 1992, a sentence reduction hearing was held and Bakker's sentence was reduced to eight years.[5]:104

In August 1993, Bakker was transferred to a minimum security federal prison in Jesup, Georgia, and was subsequently granted parole in July 1994, after serving almost five years of his sentence.[5]:116, 130 Bakker's son, Jay, spearheaded a letter-writing campaign to the parole board on his father's behalf, urging leniency.[5]:106–115

His Federal Bureau of Prisons (B.O.P.) number was 07407-058, and he was released from B.O.P. custody on December 1, 1994.[18]

On July 23, 1996, a North Carolina jury threw out a class action suit brought on behalf of more than 160,000 one-time supporters who contributed as much as $7,000 each to Bakker's coffers in the 1980s.

The Charlotte Observer reported that the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) still holds Bakker and Roe Messner, Tammy Faye's husband from 1993 until her death in 2007, liable for personal income taxes owed from the 1980s when they were building the PTL empire, taxes assessed after the IRS revoked the PTL ministry's nonprofit status. Tammy Faye Messner's new husband said that the original tax amount was about $500,000, with penalties and interest accounting for the rest. Notices stating the IRS liens list still identify "James O. and Tamara F. Bakker" as owing $6,000,000, liens on which Jim Bakker still pays.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Bakker#Fraud_conviction_and_incarceration

mn9driver

(4,424 posts)
19. Bakker isn't talking to you. He's talking to Trump's base.
Mon May 22, 2017, 09:15 AM
May 2017

Bakker has no cred in the real world, but in Trumpworld where the Orange Shitstain is theMostAwesomePresidentandLeaderEver
DemocratsStealingMyMoneyGivingIt
ToUnworthyBrownPeople, he is an authority.

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