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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon May 22, 2017, 05:29 PM May 2017

Monica Lewinsky: Roger Ailes's Dream Was My Nightmare

By MONICA LEWINSKY MAY 22, 2017

This is not another obituary for Roger Ailes, who died last week a year after being ousted at Fox News. It is, I hope, instead an obituary for the culture he purveyed — a culture that affected me profoundly and personally.

Just two years after Rupert Murdoch appointed Mr. Ailes to head the new cable news network, my relationship with President Bill Clinton became public. Mr. Ailes, a former Republican political operative, took the story of the affair and the trial that followed and made certain his anchors hammered it ceaselessly, 24 hours a day. It worked like magic: The story hooked viewers and made them Fox loyalists. For the past 15 years, Fox News has been the No. 1 news station; last year the network made $2.3 billion.

Some experts have noted that viewers found Fox for the first time because of the crisis. John Moody, a Fox executive editor, reflected on that period: “The Lewinsky saga put us on the news map.” As he put it in another interview: “Monica was a news channel’s dream come true.”

Their dream was my nightmare. My character, my looks and my life were picked apart mercilessly. Truth and fiction mixed at random in the service of higher ratings. My family and I huddled at home, worried about my going to jail — I was the original target of Ken Starr’s investigation, threatened with 27 years for having been accused of signing a false affidavit, obstructing justice, suborning perjury and other crimes — or worse, me taking my own life. Meantime, Mr. Ailes huddled with his employees at Fox News, dictating a lineup of talking heads to best exploit this personal and national tragedy.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/22/opinion/monica-lewinsky-roger-ailess-dream-was-my-nightmare.html

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Monica Lewinsky: Roger Ailes's Dream Was My Nightmare (Original Post) DonViejo May 2017 OP
why is her name out there AGAIN???? sarah FAILIN May 2017 #1
I don't think it's unreasonable for people whose lives were ruined by that vulture to go public Aristus May 2017 #2
Monica made out all right... Blue_Tires May 2017 #4
really? she "made out all right"? maxsolomon May 2017 #8
Her life was basically ruined. Your comments are uninformed and offensive. Gravitycollapse May 2017 #12
Thank you.! Nt lostnfound May 2017 #14
You don't look much at the psychological side of life, then? Is it all about the stuff? lostnfound May 2017 #13
"Youthful indiscretion?" I wouldn't let her off that easily. JudyM May 2017 #21
Monica made out all right... LenaBaby61 May 2017 #30
Thank you. n/t demmiblue May 2017 #7
Yep. She was victimized by a sick misogynistic culture and by Fox far more than by one horny guy lostnfound May 2017 #11
She wrote a piece for the NYT. elleng May 2017 #26
I don't intend on it. sarah FAILIN May 2017 #29
Exactly. She's not the most ethical person either but made a very valid point. ATL Ebony May 2017 #32
I hope Linda Tripp is happy! Chasstev365 May 2017 #3
Post removed Post removed May 2017 #5
Because She's Clearly The One Who Lied SoCalMusicLover May 2017 #9
"Bimbo"?! obamanut2012 May 2017 #10
Monica Lewinsky has been so maligned by both sides of the political spectrum. demmiblue May 2017 #6
I actually have also listened to her Horse with no Name May 2017 #24
this was one of those things nobody needed to know about and something she could have written a book JI7 May 2017 #15
Post removed Post removed May 2017 #16
SHE'S not that bright?! mac56 May 2017 #17
You win the misogynist of the day award. Gravitycollapse May 2017 #18
Lol Jno_Gilmor_ May 2017 #20
Shut. Up. Look, I'm as cognizant of Mitterand's two women at his funeral as anyone, but to have WinkyDink May 2017 #19
Yes. And it went beyond Clinton, to impact our party more broadly. JudyM May 2017 #22
What was the name of Mark Sanford's girlfriend? Gingrich's? Remember when Ailes dissected them? lostnfound May 2017 #25
And Rudy's flaunted mistress became his wife. New Yorkers hated him, then....9/11. WinkyDink May 2017 #35
That's not on her, as much as its on him, as much as its on our whole culture JCanete May 2017 #27
Roger Ailes is dead. Good. hunter May 2017 #23
Very good piece of writing KT2000 May 2017 #28
+1 Lucinda May 2017 #31
I remember that... Mike Nelson May 2017 #33
I'm sure she isn't the only person on the planet that regrets blowing someone ;) luvMIdog May 2017 #34

Aristus

(66,316 posts)
2. I don't think it's unreasonable for people whose lives were ruined by that vulture to go public
Mon May 22, 2017, 05:38 PM
May 2017

with the story.

It makes a nice counterpoint to Rachel Maddow's fluffery over Roger Ailes's death.

maxsolomon

(33,310 posts)
8. really? she "made out all right"?
Mon May 22, 2017, 06:10 PM
May 2017

I think she'd gladly have done without all the benefits you mention.

lostnfound

(16,171 posts)
13. You don't look much at the psychological side of life, then? Is it all about the stuff?
Mon May 22, 2017, 08:05 PM
May 2017

What if she were your daughter getting dismantled on nightly TV month after month after month, for a youthful indiscretion?

Do you ever put yourself in her shoes?

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
30. Monica made out all right...
Tue May 23, 2017, 02:37 AM
May 2017

Well .....

WHO wants to hear their name used in such a nasty and pejorative way IE: "Oh, so (Insert any woman's name) gave (Man's name) a Lewinsky." There's that Blue, stained dress. Former Pres. Bill Clinton, the cigar and what he used it for and on whom.

BOTH Monica and Bill were wrong for engaging in what they did, their behaviors. Bill was a much older, married man who should have been concentrating on his presidency. Clinton's presidency was somewhat derailed. Lewinsky was wrong to have told Linda Tripp about her affair, and Tripp was a dog for telling others what Lewinsky told her in strict confidence. From Bill Clinton to Monica, to the House Managers--some of whom where guilty of having or being IN affairs or between mistresses (Gingrich, Bob Livingston etc.)/making mistresses or wives have abortions (Bob Barr etc.), having outside families/children (Henry Hyde, Dan Burton), pedophiles (Dennis Hastert etc.) closeted gays (Larry Craig etc.) who criticized Bill Clinton were hypocrites and embarrassments to themselves that were outed. More recently, we seen the fortunes of Ken Starr (Ousted as President at Baylor University because of a scandal) who later pretty much admitted that there was really no there, there, with the "Clinton Scandals" which cost us taxpayers time and money.

NOT too many winners all the way around from this sad, sordid saga in our nation's and political history where frailty and humanness intersected with hypocrisy and gall. SCARY thing is that this current scandal involving tRumputin/family/putin/russian interference into US elections to elect tRumputin/assange & fakileaks, GOP voter-suppression, the GOP protecting tRumputin thus far so that they can destroy this country makes the Clinton "scandal" look like a picnic in the park.

lostnfound

(16,171 posts)
11. Yep. She was victimized by a sick misogynistic culture and by Fox far more than by one horny guy
Mon May 22, 2017, 08:01 PM
May 2017

She has as much right to speak up about it as anyone. Flipping hypocritical culture, big on "slut-shaming" and not giving a shit about the individual people who are being publicly humiliated.

The GOP and FoX were DISGUSTING in that whole episode, and wasted so much taxpayers money in the process.

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
29. I don't intend on it.
Tue May 23, 2017, 01:01 AM
May 2017

She can stick all the copies of it in a ziplock bag and save them for whoever is interested in reading them later on for all I care about her.

ATL Ebony

(1,097 posts)
32. Exactly. She's not the most ethical person either but made a very valid point.
Tue May 23, 2017, 04:18 AM
May 2017

I have to wonder if she's looking for a talk show gig since she's being very public these days.

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
9. Because She's Clearly The One Who Lied
Mon May 22, 2017, 06:17 PM
May 2017

Why exactly is she a witch? She's neither the one who came forward with what took place. She was the victim, and merely told her side of the story when she had to.

I would say more, but it would probably get this post flagged by someone who didn't like it.

demmiblue

(36,841 posts)
6. Monica Lewinsky has been so maligned by both sides of the political spectrum.
Mon May 22, 2017, 05:49 PM
May 2017

I actually rather admire her after watching her TED talk:





I will refrain from saying anything else.

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
24. I actually have also listened to her
Mon May 22, 2017, 10:20 PM
May 2017

And what she went through. It was horrible and she didn't deserve a bit of it.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
15. this was one of those things nobody needed to know about and something she could have written a book
Mon May 22, 2017, 08:06 PM
May 2017

On years later when she was retired to make some money but without hurting hers and others lives at the moment.

And the hypocrisy of those who thought this was so important and how dare they pres not tell them about it whole defending trump is disgusting.

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WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
19. Shut. Up. Look, I'm as cognizant of Mitterand's two women at his funeral as anyone, but to have
Mon May 22, 2017, 08:42 PM
May 2017

President Clinton almost brought down by this affair was AWFUL!

We do NOT need to be reminded of it! EVER AGAIN!

lostnfound

(16,171 posts)
25. What was the name of Mark Sanford's girlfriend? Gingrich's? Remember when Ailes dissected them?
Tue May 23, 2017, 12:04 AM
May 2017

No? Huh. What a shock.

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
27. That's not on her, as much as its on him, as much as its on our whole culture
Tue May 23, 2017, 12:23 AM
May 2017

that wants all the sordid details and wants to pass judgement from on high. I'm not exactly sure why she should shut up, but I am sure the culture around this stuff needs to change, and probably is changing for being talked about openly.

hunter

(38,310 posts)
23. Roger Ailes is dead. Good.
Mon May 22, 2017, 09:35 PM
May 2017

I've a very twisted history as a late teen and young twenty-something.

I saw people naked but I always escaped with my sacred virginity intact, not even so much as a hand job.

And should he demand it, I'll proclaim my own greater Christian Purity over that secretly masturbating-in-the-closet pervert Ken Starr.

I'm pretty sure Monica and Bill still live in his head.

Hand the pathetic man a cigar.

KT2000

(20,572 posts)
28. Very good piece of writing
Tue May 23, 2017, 12:54 AM
May 2017

Many young people would not have survived what she experienced from the media - especially FAUX.

Mike Nelson

(9,951 posts)
33. I remember that...
Tue May 23, 2017, 05:31 AM
May 2017

...FOX' "...all Monica, all the time!" motto. Good she writing about the real abusers. I'd like an essay on consensual sex and that it's wrong to shame women for enjoying sex as much as men... although I do have a problem with the power difference, obviously.

luvMIdog

(2,533 posts)
34. I'm sure she isn't the only person on the planet that regrets blowing someone ;)
Tue May 23, 2017, 06:12 AM
May 2017

And yeah Faux news never went after any rethug girlfriends or sex partners like that

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