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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIn The End The GOP Will Fuck Up Health Care For Everyone Even Employer Funded Insurance.
The AHCA will pretty much really fuck up the health care for everyone. If you examine the domino effect of going back to the old ways plus essentially ending Medicaid altogether. REMEMBER THE END OF MEDICAID ENDS THE MANDATES ON LONG TERM CARE AND FORCES THE FAMILIES TO PAY FOR OR TAKE CARE OF THEIR ELDERS. PLUS THE ELDER'S DEBTS WILL FALL ON THE FAMILY.
On top of all the sick and disabled who will not get care children with treatable serious diseases will suffer the most.
And the ultimate goal is to fold the VA and Tricare for military retirees into the "market system" with coupons. So if you are a SEVERELY disabled combat vet with multiple arms and legs missing or have a brain injury and have PTSD YOU WILL HAVE TO BUY INSURANCE WITH YOUR FUCKING COUPON on the private market.
Specialized care for combat veterans will come to an end and they will have to rely on the civilian health care system. So disability specialists will HAVE NO specialized prosthetists and therapists to help them.
The God damned AHCA and the end of its logical progression is a HYDROGEN BOMB nationally on health care.
Americans ought to be in a fiery rage. And they should be just scaring the shit out of the GOP bastards.
YOU HAVE TO THINK THROUGH THE ENTIRE GOP AGENDA ON THIS ISSUE AND THE END GAME. The reduction in funding will be in the trillions and trillions in the end. The present numbers are actually low. And medical research will just about come to a halt because government grants fund most of the research.
People need to wake up and shake their God damned tree viciously. Sorry but the GOP needs to find out what fear really is. They still do not get it or refuse to.
I apologize for being so militant, but they REFUSE TO LISTEN. The Senate bill will be NO better.
Warpy
(111,255 posts)because they have the unshakable belief that illness is a consumer decision and if you give working people and their families health insurance, they'll choose to get sick more often and use too much health care.
It wouldn't be so insulting if they'd end the drug war so we could treat the pain of being neglecteto death.
LakeVermilion
(1,040 posts)that had high emergency room rates. I suspect that rural medical care in our country will close down. The hospitals will not be able to sustain themselves without the guaranteed funds from the ACA. Rural folks are going to have to travel to mid major cities to receive care.
Because fewer people will be participating in health care, I suspect that rates are going to change. Those with health care through their employment will have to pick up the costs. I can't imagine that the employers can absorb the major rate changes.
We're going to find out that unintended consequences will carry a big price tag.
TheMastersNemesis
(10,602 posts)sheshe2
(83,751 posts)There are several in my family, also with all my mom's doctors visits I have been asking her doctors thoughts as well. They are all worried about the quality of care they will be able to offer with funding cuts. Even now the hospitals understaff. Some of the people in my sisters unit work 12 hour shifts without a sit down break. They eat on the run. It is only going to get worse and people will die.
The ER's and clinics will be swamped. Some hospitals will refuse care without insurance and will demand payment up front, otherwise many will be turned away.
The GOP found a simple solution to kill us without building camps to hold us and solved the need to exterminate us by taking away our healthcare. They are the death panel and they are asking us to die swiftly, if we don't they will just look the other way until we are gone.
Boston has some of the best teaching hospitals in the country...sad that they may not survive.
The GOP just says don't get sick. FACT. All of us are one accident/ illness away from bankruptcy. Just one. That is all it would take. One.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)All you will get upon employment is access to a "group rate" on insurance and *maybe* a small stipend to offset the cost of it. Premiums are going to skyrocket and the worker will be left holding the bag.
Some will still have insurance, the challenge will be finding a hospital still open. Fortunately, I live near Ontario, Canada and my insurance will cover me if I go over there.
american_ideals
(613 posts)GOP: billionaires, and suckers.
Wounded Bear
(58,648 posts)on their way to our new Libertarian paradise.