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Wed May 24, 2017, 12:09 AM

Why Trump will likely resign as Mueller pursues 'Putingate'




Trump's New Impeachable Offenses: Obstruction of Justice, Conspiracy, Abuse of Power

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Reply Why Trump will likely resign as Mueller pursues 'Putingate' (Original post)
L. Coyote May 2017 OP
Dawson Leery May 2017 #1
L. Coyote May 2017 #2
unblock May 2017 #3
brer cat May 2017 #4
BigmanPigman May 2017 #5
brer cat May 2017 #6
L. Coyote May 2017 #7
dalton99a May 2017 #8
brer cat May 2017 #9
Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #10
L. Coyote May 2017 #11
Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #12

Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 12:12 AM

1. Blanket pardons for all on the way out.

Damning the GOP in 2020.

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Response to Dawson Leery (Reply #1)

Wed May 24, 2017, 12:15 AM

2. If impeachment is started, and some say it is in fact so already, then Trump cannot pardon

anyone who is a co-conspirator. Impeachment is initiated by anyone declaring on the House floor that the President should be impeached, per what i've seen recently. That happened already. So pardons may not hold up in court at this point.

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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #2)

Wed May 24, 2017, 12:21 AM

3. Afaik, pardons can't stop impeachment, but impeachment can't stop pardons

The pardon power doesn't extend to stopping the impeachment process but the impeachment process doesn't prevent pardons (from criminal liability) unless and until the the president is removed by the senate.

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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #2)

Wed May 24, 2017, 12:29 AM

4. I hope you are right, L Coyote.

My concern is that a resignation by trump would take the wind out of the sails of the various investigations, and they need to be completed. Trump is hardly the only one who must be exposed. Pence for sure is involved and probably Ryan and McConnell.

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Response to brer cat (Reply #4)

Wed May 24, 2017, 01:00 AM

5. That's why it's so important to get an independant investigation.

A special prosecutor has many limits. A separate, independant bipartisan investigation is a must in order to fully investigate any and all of them and in a timely manner. Indivisible has planned rallies/marches for June 3 called #Marchfortruth for this very reason. They are going to be in 110 cities besides Wash DC. You can Google it and see if there is one near you.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #5)

Wed May 24, 2017, 01:30 AM

6. Thanks. nt

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Response to brer cat (Reply #4)

Wed May 24, 2017, 01:33 AM

7. Plus, Trump cannot pardon people for state convictions. Those are coming too.

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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #7)

Wed May 24, 2017, 01:35 AM

8. +1

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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #7)

Wed May 24, 2017, 01:36 AM

9. Schneiderman seems to be determined to do all he can.

I would guess he has the best shot at the trump mafia.

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 02:53 AM

10. Please summarize/excerpt, as one usually would, since it is an article. . . nt

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #10)

Wed May 24, 2017, 09:39 AM

11. Just click the link.

On the internet, you can actually migrate from one document to another. Who knew?

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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #11)

Wed May 24, 2017, 09:51 AM

12. Your snideness misses the point.


If you can't sell the link with summary / excerpt I'm not inclined to spend the time to follow it.

It's simple. If you are writing for your own benefit then don't think of helping the readers.

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