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Wed May 24, 2017, 12:51 PM

Heres Why Melania Trump Wore Black To Meet The Pope

President Donald Trump met a sad-looking Pope Francis at the Vatican on Wednesday, along with his wife, Melania, daughter Ivanka and others.

Melania and Ivanka both wore black dresses with long sleeves and black veils (Melania’s dress was Dolce & Gabbana, a possible nod to the host country). Although Pope Francis has not enforced traditional dress code rules for women at private Vatican audiences as strictly as his predecessors did, both women kept to old-school protocol.

This traditional rule holds that most women wear long black dresses with sleeves and mantillas, and only a very select handful of women enjoy an exception. These ladies have the “privilège du blanc,” or “privilege of the white,” which means they’re allowed to wear white if they choose. According to the World Heritage Encyclopedia, the queens of Italy, Belgium and Spain, grand duchesses of Luxembourg, and princesses of the House of Savoy are automatically allowed to exercise the “privilège du blanc.”

There’s a common theme: Those are all Catholic royal houses, though not all Catholic royals automatically enjoy the privilege. And modern first ladies, at least, have strictly adhered to the traditional mandate.

“Per Vatican protocol, women who have an audience with the Pope are required to wear long sleeves, formal black clothing, and a veil to cover the head,” the first lady’s communications director, Stephanie Grisham, told CNN in a statement.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/melania-trump-pope-wear-black_us_59258828e4b00c8df2a08d40?tgd&ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

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Reply Heres Why Melania Trump Wore Black To Meet The Pope (Original post)
mfcorey1 May 2017 OP
jehop61 May 2017 #1
dalton99a May 2017 #2
pnwmom May 2017 #18
mountain grammy May 2017 #3
itcfish May 2017 #11
marlakay May 2017 #4
NightWatcher May 2017 #5
B2G May 2017 #6
genxlib May 2017 #7
rusty fender May 2017 #8
woodsprite May 2017 #10
rusty fender May 2017 #12
irisblue May 2017 #13
rusty fender May 2017 #16
wishstar May 2017 #14
rusty fender May 2017 #15
demmiblue May 2017 #9
pnwmom May 2017 #17
dalton99a May 2017 #20
pnwmom May 2017 #21
leftstreet May 2017 #22
Buns_of_Fire May 2017 #19
pamela May 2017 #23


Response to mfcorey1 (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 12:55 PM

2. When in Rome, do as the Romans do

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #2)

Wed May 24, 2017, 03:38 PM

18. This was just a show for conservative American Catholics.

The Catholic President of Ireland, Mary Robinson, wore green to her audience at the Vatican -- with no veil -- and Queen Elizabeth wore a lilac suit and hat.

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Response to mfcorey1 (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 12:56 PM

3. What, no head covering in Saudi Arabia

but heads covered at the vatican? WTF is going on, donnie?

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Response to mountain grammy (Reply #3)

Wed May 24, 2017, 02:57 PM

11. It is an option

in the Vatican

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Response to mfcorey1 (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 01:14 PM

4. The difference is their expressions

They look either like they are going to a funeral or scared to death.

I saw on fb pics from other presidents wives who wore black but yet smiled and looked happy to be with pope.

Are these women feeling guilty about how they treat the poor?

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Response to mfcorey1 (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 01:16 PM

5. Just another religion that wants to control women.

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Response to mfcorey1 (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 01:25 PM

6. The obsession about this confuses me.

 

Who the fuck cares?

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Response to mfcorey1 (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 01:36 PM

7. They're not unhappy, they're scared

Lighting strikes can be deadly if you are that close.

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Response to mfcorey1 (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 01:43 PM

8. It always struck me as funny

that Catholicism adopted the practice of women covering their heads while in church from the Greeks, who believed that the gods could impregnate women through their uncovered heads

However, it was no laughing matter to me when I, as a Catholic girl, forgot to bring my veil to Church and my mom had to bobby pin a Kleenex to my hair(preVatican II). I remember seeing women wearing anything they could cover their heads with, even plastic rain bonnets. I never knew why we females had to cover our heads while I was a Catholic, But I do remember the fear I had if I failed to do so.

I laugh at the reason and the Kleenex now, though.

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Response to rusty fender (Reply #8)

Wed May 24, 2017, 02:56 PM

10. My boss said her mom kept a stash of doilies in their car glove compartment, just in case. n/t

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Response to woodsprite (Reply #10)

Wed May 24, 2017, 02:59 PM

12. LOL!

Thanks for the reminder--I saw those too

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Response to rusty fender (Reply #8)

Wed May 24, 2017, 03:04 PM

13. Remember the little doilys? I did ask my mom why I had to put this on my head

And could we put it back on Poppa D's chair afterwards.

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Response to irisblue (Reply #13)

Wed May 24, 2017, 03:17 PM

16. LOL!

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Response to rusty fender (Reply #8)

Wed May 24, 2017, 03:11 PM

14. The inane head covering requirement undoubtedly caused millions of mother/daughter squabbles

ruining many Sunday mornings for entire families before the rule changed.

But the Catholic church will never allow women equal rights, one of many reasons I left the church as a teenager and have been glad I never again gave them a dime after the priest abuses came to light, although we had a very good priest throughout my childhood.

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Response to wishstar (Reply #14)

Wed May 24, 2017, 03:15 PM

15. I left it when I was fifteen

and became an atheist about 4 years after that.

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Response to mfcorey1 (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 02:54 PM

9. Kick

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Response to mfcorey1 (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 03:26 PM

17. Irish President Mary Robinson wore green to meet Pope John Paul. No veil.

Queen Elizabeth wore lilac, with a lilac hat.

I think the Trumps were just trying to impress conservative Catholics. Pope Francis didn't care.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/queen-elizabeth-II/10742391/The-Queen-meets-Pope-Francis-on-visit-to-Rome.html

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/the-robinson-presidency-in-pictures-1.2422995

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #17)

Wed May 24, 2017, 03:50 PM

20. +1

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #17)

Wed May 24, 2017, 04:10 PM

22. The Trumps would wear sombreros to meet the Prez of Mexico

They're so embarrassingly clueless and classless.

And in spite of their devotion to wealth and social climbing, they still just come off as penthouse trash



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Response to mfcorey1 (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 03:47 PM

19. I propose a new men's requirement:

Button your damned coat, ya slob! Yeah, I'm looking at YOU, Comrade Fatass!

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Response to mfcorey1 (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 06:19 PM

23. This is why she dressed like that...

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