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Wed May 24, 2017, 01:44 PM

Another Nail In The Repugs Coffin For 2018 Midterm Elections....

the Trump/Repug budget.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 02:00 PM

1. People are giving voters too much credit......

 

1) They won't remember this budget in a year and a half.
2) Even if the budget affects them they won't blame Trump or the Republicans. They always find some way to blame Liberals and Democrats.

Also, say what you will about this horrible budget but mark my words what will happen is they are opening negotiations from a radical far right wish list perspective and will be lauded by the press, the Republican base and even some Democrats when it ends up being only ridiculously right wing and not hideously ridiculously right wing.

Then when Democrats take control again we'll have to do our usual business of starting from a moderately, vaguely left of center negotiation point and winding up in the center.

10 steps backward, 5 steps forward. It's the modern American political way.

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Response to vi5 (Reply #1)

Wed May 24, 2017, 02:08 PM

2. you are too pessimistic - Republicans are going to crash and burn....

 

they are about to run away from Trump, but it won't work

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Response to virtualobserver (Reply #2)

Wed May 24, 2017, 02:51 PM

3. I've learned to be pessimistic politically....

 

..and yet as pessimistic as I am I still manage to be shocked and disappointed on a regular basis.

Let's hope you're right and I'll be pleasantly surprised.

I'm not in the crowd that wants Trump impeached. I see zero difference between him and Pence except that one puts a politically correct "serious Washington" face on it. I want Trump to stay on and hang around their necks like a rotting albatross carcass.

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Response to vi5 (Reply #3)

Wed May 24, 2017, 03:40 PM

5. I prefer impeaching Trump and Pence after Pelosi is speaker of the house....

 

I would like to see Trump hang out a while myself and continue to destroy the Republican party.

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Response to virtualobserver (Reply #5)

Thu May 25, 2017, 08:21 AM

6. Exactly (n/t)

 

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Response to virtualobserver (Reply #5)

Thu May 25, 2017, 01:16 PM

12. Now THAT would be something to behold

Nancy Pelosi as the first woman President. Wouldn't that just make McConnell's head explode.

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Response to vi5 (Reply #3)

Thu May 25, 2017, 08:35 AM

7. Trump is a danger to this country ....Pence is an asshat but not at the level of crazy stupid Trump.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #7)

Thu May 25, 2017, 08:42 AM

8. It's not a matter of that.....

 

.....it's a matter of the longer term damage. If Pence becomes President, he will win re-election mark my words.

I already see the spin with folks like my father in law, who is a Republican but who loathes Trump and didn't vote for him. He's angry and afraid about Trump and also at his enablers. But the minute I say, "Remember that if he is impeached or quits. That every single Republican INCLUDING Pence enabled this behavior and his actions" my FIL starts hedging and going "Well, I don't know that Pence knows all that is going on....he's just vice president".

And the media will do the same thing. In the long run Pence is just as dangerous as Trump is, probably more so.

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Response to vi5 (Reply #8)

Thu May 25, 2017, 01:08 PM

10. Pence is not well liked...and I doubt he would win...but you have to protect the country.

Trump is a danger we can not underestimate.

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Response to vi5 (Reply #1)

Wed May 24, 2017, 03:03 PM

4. You're assuming this budget is the last stupid mistake these neanderthals are going to make

 

Don't worry, they will continue to pile up exponentially.

You know, assuming we are all still alive to hold an election.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2017, 08:44 AM

9. It depends on how the Democrats frame it.

And whether or not they take the offensive on the issues?

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2017, 01:11 PM

11. Can it be spun as a way to cut benefits to "darkies?"

If so, then Trump's idiot fuckhead worshipers will endorse it wholeheartedly regardless of how badly they themselves get screwed.

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