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Wed May 24, 2017, 02:44 PM

For the record: Mrs. Obama wore black and veil when meeting the Pope at the Vatican.

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Reply For the record: Mrs. Obama wore black and veil when meeting the Pope at the Vatican. (Original post)
dixiegrrrrl May 2017 OP
Kingofalldems May 2017 #1
NCTraveler May 2017 #5
itcfish May 2017 #6
dixiegrrrrl May 2017 #18
Eliot Rosewater May 2017 #2
itcfish May 2017 #9
itcfish May 2017 #3
demmiblue May 2017 #4
GoCubsGo May 2017 #11
chillfactor May 2017 #7
WePurrsevere May 2017 #12
DefenseLawyer May 2017 #8
TexasProgresive May 2017 #13
LanternWaste May 2017 #15
DefenseLawyer May 2017 #16
jberryhill May 2017 #19
GoCubsGo May 2017 #10
tazkcmo May 2017 #14
jberryhill May 2017 #17

Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 02:46 PM

1. Here:

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Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #1)

Wed May 24, 2017, 02:48 PM

5. Beauty and class.

 

Obviously not talking about the guy on the right.

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Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #1)

Wed May 24, 2017, 02:50 PM

6. BTW

Michelle did look stunning

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Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #1)

Wed May 24, 2017, 03:26 PM

18. ty for posting that.

Things are not working well for me so far today.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 02:46 PM

2. Dumb, forcing women to wear black, dumb.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #2)

Wed May 24, 2017, 02:54 PM

9. Not forced

Formal dress is now normally reserved for diplomatic audiences. In the 1990s, a Roman Catholic priest in Ireland provoked a controversy by claiming that then-President of Ireland, Mary Robinson, had breached protocol by wearing jewellery and by not wearing black nor a mantilla for an audience with Pope John Paul II. The Vatican subsequently pointed out that the traditional form of dress worn for papal audiences was no longer obligatory.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 02:48 PM

3. Yes But that

was with Razi, did she wear black with Pope Francis? Didn't see any photos.

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Response to itcfish (Reply #3)

Wed May 24, 2017, 02:48 PM

4. Yes. n/t

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Response to itcfish (Reply #3)

Wed May 24, 2017, 03:03 PM

11. Yes and No. But, their meetings were not at the Vatican.

She met him on an airport tarmac, and at the White House. She wore pale blue and black, respectively. I don't think that she wore black at the WH visit specifically because it was the Pope. Rather, it was likely because she does tend to wear a lot of black. She also was bare-headed at that meeting.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 02:50 PM

7. But in their initial greeting....

she wore a beautiful bright blue dress.

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Response to chillfactor (Reply #7)

Wed May 24, 2017, 03:03 PM

12. The black and veil is traditional only when meeting inside the Vatican...

if I remember correctly.

Michelle's bright blue dress was when Pope Francis visited the US I believe.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 02:53 PM

8. Are retired Popes still infallible?

 

Cause, if so, that's a nice retirement perk.

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Response to DefenseLawyer (Reply #8)

Wed May 24, 2017, 03:06 PM

13. There have only been 2 infallible papal

Statements ever. None in this century.

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Response to DefenseLawyer (Reply #8)

Wed May 24, 2017, 03:10 PM

15. Might want to hit the books on that particular topic

Might want to hit the books on that particular topic. You seem dramatically unprepared.

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #15)

Wed May 24, 2017, 03:16 PM

16. I think I'll pass. Whatever you all want to do fine.

 

He's your retired Pope, not mine. So however that works, I'm sure it works for you.

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Response to DefenseLawyer (Reply #16)

Wed May 24, 2017, 03:29 PM

19. Throw your miter into the ring next time

 


I'm going to run for Pope next time around.

As it turns out, it is not strictly required that one be a cardinal, and I looked over the rules which did not expressly state a candidate has to be Catholic.

So I'm gonna give it a whirl in the next Pope election. I may have the odds against me, but if you don't play, you can't win.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 02:56 PM

10. And, so did Hillary Clinton and Laura Bush.

As well as every other First Lady. You can see the photos lower down in the link. Queen Elizabeth wore one, as well, over her black hat.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 03:07 PM

14. Yup.

I'm no fan of Melanoma but this is silly.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 03:26 PM

17. Kind of a double standard relative to Saudi

 


Not that I have any great fondness for the rules in Saudi, but neither Mrs. Obama nor Mrs. Trump wore a head cover in Saudi, but both did at the Vatican.

There are, of course, a lot of ways to look at that, given the rigidity of its enforcement in Saudi, etc.

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