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****NEW AND IMPROVED AMERICAN HEALTH CARE ACT (CHUMP CARE) LEAVES 23 MILLION MORE UNINSURED**** (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 OP
Dropping late to avoid east coast news and late night comics? MattP May 2017 #1
I expect it will take up most of TV tonight underpants May 2017 #2
I forsee it not being very kind to the bill. Tommy_Carcetti May 2017 #3
Tune into Rachel and Larry workinclasszero May 2017 #4
top line numbers $119B reduction in deficit spending, 23 million fewer people insured nt geek tragedy May 2017 #5
Is my math right? DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #6
not quite geek tragedy May 2017 #14
My bad. DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #18
23 million additional uninsured? C_U_L8R May 2017 #10
So this thing is 'better' than the last one? awesomerwb1 May 2017 #7
Right ... but ... decreases the deficit by 120 million ... conservatives will love that part. uponit7771 May 2017 #12
they'll claim to love it, they don't care about the deficit nt geek tragedy May 2017 #15
That it's "better" isn't clear Jim Lane May 2017 #20
Won't increase deficit so the Repubs only need 50 votes in the Senste. underpants May 2017 #8
Yes, that's the only part of this report that they care about n/t Tom Rinaldo May 2017 #11
I predict they will get 50 votes plus Pence Freethinker65 May 2017 #17
$119 billion is chump change vlyons May 2017 #9
its a rounding error especially over 10 years uponit7771 May 2017 #13
Republican terrorists kill 23 million Americans workinclasszero May 2017 #16
Premiums will go up 800% for elderly enrollees octoberlib May 2017 #19

underpants

(182,727 posts)
2. I expect it will take up most of TV tonight
Wed May 24, 2017, 04:27 PM
May 2017

With Trump making the Pope sad taking up most of the rest.

C_U_L8R

(44,996 posts)
10. 23 million additional uninsured?
Wed May 24, 2017, 04:42 PM
May 2017

Or 23 million total uninsured?
Either way, it's a tenth of the population or more.
Do Republican hope those people won't get sick?
Or do they just want them to die?

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
20. That it's "better" isn't clear
Wed May 24, 2017, 05:26 PM
May 2017

As compared with the earlier version, there would be fewer people without insurance, but among the people who are insured there would be more people with crappy insurance.

The CBO states:

"In comparison with the estimates for the previous version of the act, under the House-passed act, the number of people with health insurance would, by CBO and JCT’s estimates, be slightly higher and average premiums for insurance purchased individually—that is, nongroup insurance—would be lower, in part because the insurance, on average, would pay for a smaller proportion of health care costs."


I think the explanation is that this bill would loosen the requirements for the minimum coverage a policy must provide. That means that premiums could be lower, so more people would sign up. This result is "better" right up until the moment that one of those people encounters a medical problem that's not covered.

Freethinker65

(10,008 posts)
17. I predict they will get 50 votes plus Pence
Wed May 24, 2017, 04:53 PM
May 2017

Good bye affordable comprehensive healthcare. Hello tax cuts to the wealthy.

Kind of sad the GOP will be effectively killing off many of their red county voters, but that must have been part of the overall plan.

Now the GOP had better work quickly to remove as many regulations and corporate taxes as possible, destroy public education, continue to stack the courts, and privatize all of our country's natural resources, infrastructure, and other assets before the non-comprehensive shitty policies start to creep into employer based coverage.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
9. $119 billion is chump change
Wed May 24, 2017, 04:42 PM
May 2017

"For FY 2017, President Obama proposed the base budget of $523.9 billion, which includes an increase of $2.2 billion over the FY 2016 enacted budget of $521.7 billion. "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget_of_the_United_States

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