Does anyone else wonder if the Russian spies and media dropped bugs when in Oval office?

[Equinox Moon]

I keep thinking about how advanced technology is these days and listening devices can be made extra tiny. I keep thinking about Trump letting the Russians into the Oval Office, with Russian media. If any of them got near a piece of furniture they could have dropped a bug or two and Russia would have a main-line into the Oval Office discussions.

Just saying...

What a fool to he was to let them into the Oval Office.

[GoCubsGo]

1. No.

I don't wonder about it. I assume it happened.

[FarPoint]

5. A free gift!

I bet ice cream on the notion they did...why not!

[2naSalit]

9. Exactly...nt

[elleng]

2. wonder, no.

pretty sure.

[HipChick]

3. Technology is very advanced...

they prop don't need to be near furniture...

[DinahMoeHum]

4. Wouldn't put it past them. . .

. . .considering that they know he can be played for a pansy.

[MedusaX]

6. I thought that was the entire purpose of their visit... and the reason for no US press ...

[VigilantG]

7. Same here!

[drray23]

8. i would think that the secret service regularly checks that.nt.

[uncle ray]

23. oh, of course they do.

Have you heard of "the Thing" placed in the US embassy in russia? i'd LIKE to think the SS would detect a device.

[melm00se]

38. Embassy security (other than the Marine guards)

IIRC falls under the State Department

[uncle ray]

40. my point is that historically russia has been good at concealing their work. nt.

[emulatorloo]

10. Of course they did.

[ProudLib72]

11. No, they didn't

Why bother when tRumpet will tell them anything they want to know?

[jmowreader]

44. Trump won't be there forever

Even if Trump doesn't get impeached, 25th Amendmented, ordered to resign or else, or French Revolutioned, he can't stay in office past 1/20/2025. Properly-made passive bugs could stay around far longer than that.

[Old Terp]

12. To be honest, I suspect that some close Trump people enter with "bugs"

I suspect "close Trump associate" mentioned is not just Jared but also Ivanka.

[imanamerican63]

13. Trump has his own bugs in the oval office!

Remember he said to Comey about "TAPES" are possible!

[Equinox Moon]

14. Yes, he is recording and Putin asked if they wanted his recording of their visit!

[TrollBuster9090]

15. Why bother, when Trump just TELLS them everything? Waste of money, IMHO. nt

[Equinox Moon]

16. Ha! good point!

[TrollBuster9090]

18. That's good money that would better be spent trying to put bugs in Angela Merkel's office. ;)

[former9thward]

17. Why wouldn't American media do that?

Should we ban all media from the White House?

[Equinox Moon]

20. The Oval Office is the issue, I think.

[former9thward]

21. American media is in the Oval Office all the time.

Ban all media?

[Equinox Moon]

22. No! don't ban the media!

[LanternWaste]

24. And again, no one is making that argument but you....

And again, no one is making that particular argument predicated wholly on a false equivalency but you....

Consistency, thy name is Felicia.

[bettyellen]

26. Accusing the American media of treasonous behavior? Trump thanks you for the RW bullshit spin.

[former9thward]

35. Why are you so defensive about the media?

Do you think all the media is very patriotic and would never think of doing such a thing?
How about Breitbart and those types? Should ANY foreign media be allowed in the White House? How about the British? How about the French or Germans? Are you super trusting of all of them just like 100% of the American media?

You should know the NSA sweeps the White House regularly for any 'bugs' or other electronic devices. This whole thread is absurd.

[bettyellen]

36. What's absurd is comparing American reporters with the Putin approved ones, I think you know that.

But for some reason want to muddy the waters. No one is falling for this Russian apologist crap.

[Orrex]

28. Because the media would be tried for espionage

Russian dignitaries and Herr Trump? Not so much.

Any other questions?

[former9thward]

34. Are they tried for espionage for printing classified materials?

Nope. Any other questions?

[Orrex]

37. Yes--do you understand how this works?

Though I can't provide the link just now, courts have found that the journalist is not violating the law by publishing the material once it's in their hands, but the leaker can still be charged with espionage for releasing the material.


Do you have any actual questions?

[former9thward]

39. Clasified material is printed almost every day.

Who is being charged? Nobody.

[Orrex]

41. Ask Chelsea Manning about that

As noted, journalists are allowed to publish the information they're given. Why should they be charged?

That's also why they protect their sources so carefully, because their sources *could* be charged.


Get it?

[former9thward]

42. Why should a person be charged with having stolen property if they didn't steal it?

Yet it happens every day. And you actually think it is proper for a journalist to knowingly hide a felon or traitor. I don't and neither do the courts. You may remember the Judith Miller case where she was sent to jail for refusing to name a source.

[Orrex]

43. Because the journalist is reporting the story

Look, I get that you're desperate to paint journalists as criminals for some reason, and I wish you the best of luck with that fantasy, but it's not borne out by reality.

As for Judith Miller, was she charged with espionage? No? Then her case is not relevant to this discussion.

[Equinox Moon]

19. Come to think of it, Mar-a-logo must be full of bugs/listening devices.

I think Mar-a-logo and his New Jersey place is where he has sexual rendezvous. A sex addict can't just quit and his wife is not around.

[Orrex]

25. Why the hell would they bother?

They can just meet with Herr Trump and ask him whatever they want to know.

[wiggs]

27. they have him by the balls, one way or another. nt

[Orrex]

29. If they can find them.

[wiggs]

30. they don't need anything new. they have a whole previous life of bad behavior by a malignant

narcissist whose militant ignorance, massive ego, and greed would give the russians more than enough compromat to pull his strings. They've also had first hand financial dealings with him since the early 90's. They probably know more than our IC does and that's certainly more than we know.

It's a valid assumption that they own him. And that's more important than obstruction of justice.

[gordianot]

31. If they did to be activated for a future administration.

They most certainly do not need them now.

[WhiteTara]

32. It was my first thought when they locked out

US reporters.

[DFW]

33. No, I just wonder how many, and where? n/t