Tonight hasn't been a terrible surprise.

[BlueStater]

I'd like to say that the results of Montana are because of early voting, but I have no doubt that many red state voters are applauding and supporting what that asswipe Gianforte did. That despicable tub of shit in the White House has these brain-washed morons convinced that the American press is lying to them and that reporters everywhere (with the possible exception of those at Fox News, of course) are their enemies. Of course these dipshits love hearing that little "snowflake" reporter got smacked around because he had the unimaginable gall to ask Gianforte questions which made him uncomfortable.

That and they're ridiculously anti-Democratic too. The 2016 election proved these people are hypocritical fools who are so unbelievably partisan that they'll vote for a scumbag sexual predator just because he doesn't happen to be a Democrat. Voting for a shithead thug who physically assaults journalists who ask him questions he doesn't like is sinking only a little lower than they've already sunk.

This is how about 40% of the country is in the year 2017. Yeah, it's completely fucked up.

[Dawson Leery]

1. I know how you feel. In Connecticut,

we have the always full of s**t Themis Klarides, leader of the GOP minority in the state house. She had doubts about Trump but voted for him. She wants to be Governor now and is calling for bi-partisanship. After you voted for that piece of dog s**t
you want bi-partisanship?

[geek tragedy]

2. This country is about 40-45% protofascist trash. nt

[customerserviceguy]

3. I will blame it on early voting

Had this happened a week ago, we would surely see a different result.

[oberliner]

4. They are not "ridiculously anti-Democratic"

In the 2016 election, they elected a Democratic governor.

[BlueStater]

5. And they overwhelmingly, in far greater numbers, voted for a sexual predator to be their president.

The Democratic candidate won by a mere 4%. The orange scrotum trounced Hillary by over 20. You haven't convinced me that most of them aren't a bunch of disgraceful partisans.

[oberliner]

7. About the same number of people in Montana voted for the Democratic candidate for governor

As voted for Trump.

That makes back to back Democratic governors (going back to 2005).

In addition to their Democratic governor, they also have a Democratic senator who has been in office since 2007.

Prior to that, they had a Democratic senator as well.

[MontanaMama]

8. Thanks oberliner.

A lot of us aren't deplorable in Montana. I voted and donated to Rob Quist and the resistance effort up here. I'm sad for my state and I don't understand why so many Montanans continue to vote against their own best interest. Gianforte is a monster. I hope we can unseat him in the next election. He's shown us who he is. He is sure to lose his shit publicly again.

[Cha]

13. Sorry about the Lying Weasel-Goon, MontanaMama

I wonder how many would have changed their vote if they could?

I like what mark Sanford had to say about him.. "best not to make him mad.." paraphrasing.

[MontanaMama]

20. Thanks Cha. I'm thinking that it might

be kinda fun to make him mad...rattle his cage a little bit and make him lose his shit again on a national stage. Montana deplorables are crazy, but there might be enough of them that aren't crazy enough to re-elect him.

One can dream!

[BlueStater]

10. Fine. Guess I'll have to rethink this theory about Trump supporters.

At least certain ones.

However, do I still they think they're absolutely despicable for voting an awful human being like Donald Trump? You bet. I don't give a shit what their reasons were.

[oberliner]

15. I agree with Hillary Clinton

When she said that Trump voters can be put into different baskets.

There is, of course, a large basket of "deplorables" but there is another basket as well.

[Hoyt]

6. So, was Gianforte a Saint before he beat up reporter? White wingers like bullies.

I'm sure early voters knew what they were voting for.

[KewlKat]

18. i agree. He's always shown what and who he is.

Just like the Con. They knew what they were getting.

[MontanaMama]

21. Some of us knew

and did everything we could to stop it. Gianforte is a lying billionaire thug. However, you have a point KewlKat, he has show us who he is...he is quite flawed and won't be that hard to take down at re-election time. Especially if he continues to display his evil temper so readily.

[L. Coyote]

9. The Trump Effect -- Trump 55.6% vs. Gianforte 50.7% --- a 5% drop.

And that's after only four months, 5% fewer Republicans in a deep red state! One in 20!!

[diva77]

11. very interesting! do you have link to maps? thanks!

[L. Coyote]

16. NY Times has interactive maps:

https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/montana-house-special-election

[diva77]

25. Thanks! nt

[world wide wally]

12. I guess this is the American way these days.

You can see how much the rest of the world loves us for that when you look at Trump's trip.
I am speeehless except to quote the American voter... "Duuuh"

[SergeStorms]

14. Today's results don't surprise me.

Quist wasn't the best candidate the Democrats could have chosen, but he was what he was. I think Quist was really out of his league. He should stick with his entertaining, as he didn't seem prepared for the questions he faced about policy etc.

Gianforte was/is a slime-ball, but he had the political acumen Quist lacked. And it cost Gianforte and the GOP almost $8 million to secure the seat. The TV ad avalanche the voters faced was at least 75% pro-Gianforte, and Quist couldn't keep up, even with a lot of outside money coming in. I know I donated three times, and I live in New York.

It was always going to be an uphill battle, but I think with a better candidate (one who was better prepared for the GOP onslaught) Democrats could have won this seat. I wasn't too impressed with Quist, if you couldn't tell I don't think there's any reason for Democrats to hang their heads tonight. We're doing well in other places (NY, GA) so I don't think there's any cause for alarm. Onward and upward! We're STILL going to kick the GOP's ass in the mid-terms, especially when the American people see the nuts and bolts of Trump's budget proposals. Add to that the results of the Russian clusterfuck, and Trump's other baggage, THE GOP IS TOAST!

[c-rational]

17. Unfortunately I agree - nt

[La Lioness Priyanka]

19. quist was ahead in early voting. so it was not early voting

white people will not save the democratic party, the majority of whites will vote for republicans. the faster democrats get that and concentrate on the non-white vote, the faster we can start winning.

[Hortensis]

22. Well, but Montana's 89% white. Many HIGH ELECTORAL COLLEGE

POWER states that we really need to develop strength in are also mostly very predominantly white. Low population density states.

We are already the one party that wants to secure the blessings of equality and democracy promised in our Constitution for all our people. We are already the one party the economy always does better for the most people under. We are already the party that most Americans vote for.

Personally, as political parties (and humans) go, I think we're a quite wonderful alliance. And definitely that we need to build on what we are.

And shifting focus specifically away from whites does not seem a winning proposition. To put it mildly. I'm in Georgia. Lots of black people here, nearly a third, but each of them would have to vote 2.5 to 3 times to equal the vote of one white person in a lot of these states.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

23. focusing more on POC does not mean we won't get the minority of white votes

we need a minority of white votes + a larger portion of POC to win

[Hortensis]

24. Lioness, half of all blacks, Hispanics, and others are CONSERVATIVE

by nature, with all that means both in personality traits and ideological leanings. Probably over half in some culturally-reinforced conservative groups. This isn't just a white condition.

And the largest voting race by far in the nation is white. Of course, we focus very strongly on getting those votes. I understand disgust and resentment at being so badly let down, betrayed, by so many white voters. But doing as you imagine would be a sure recipe for failure, if not immediately for sure by 2020.

To put it bluntly, we have to have more white support, cannot do without it. Blacks are only 13% of all Americans, and a full half of them are conservatives with the same defining mildly-suspicious-to-outright-hostile conservative outlook toward those they see as "those others." Most naturally have the same conservative resistance to allying and cooperating with "outsiders." And "outsiders" include other minority groups, of course, not just whites.

There's a reason the White Man's Party, in grave peril demographically, while forced to speak occasionally and very reluctantly of OUT-reach to others, still refuses to consider inclusion and welcome. Integration, diversity would destroy what they want to be.

Today's Republicans provide a mirror for conservatives of all races to look into. Those from all the minority groups you imagine could form into a winning alliance.

Not gonna happen. Minority conservatives have come together with liberals about as close as they ever will right now -- as a result of intense pressure from right-wing threats. But it won't last forever. That pressure from without is all that is holding all most minority conservatives in the Democratic Party alliance.