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dalton99a

(81,475 posts)
Fri May 26, 2017, 07:12 PM May 2017

Russian ambassador told Moscow that Kushner wanted secret communications channel with Kremlin

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/russian-ambassador-told-moscow-that-kushner-wanted-secret-communications-channel-with-kremlin/2017/05/26/520a14b4-422d-11e7-9869-bac8b446820a_story.html

Russian ambassador told Moscow that Kushner wanted secret communications channel with Kremlin



By Ellen Nakashima, Adam Entous and Greg Miller | May 26 at 7:01 PM

Jared Kushner and Russia’s ambassador to Washington discussed the possibility of setting up a secret and secure communications channel between Trump’s transition team and the Kremlin, using Russian diplomatic facilities in an apparent move to shield their pre-inauguration discussions from monitoring, according to U.S. officials briefed on intelligence reports.

Ambassador Sergei Kislyak reported to his superiors in Moscow that Kushner, then President-elect Trump’s son-in-law and confidant, made the proposal during a meeting on Dec. 1 or 2 at Trump Tower, according to intercepts of Russian communications that were reviewed by U.S. officials. Kislyak said Kushner suggested using Russian diplomatic facilities in the United States for the communications.

The meeting also was attended by Michael Flynn, Trump’s first national security adviser.

The White House disclosed the fact of the meeting only in March, playing down its significance. But people familiar with the matter say the FBI now considers the encounter, as well as another meeting Kushner had with a Russian banker, to be of investigative interest.

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Russian ambassador told Moscow that Kushner wanted secret communications channel with Kremlin (Original Post) dalton99a May 2017 OP
WELP. WhiskeyGrinder May 2017 #1
Off to the greatest page for you. nt justiceischeap May 2017 #2
Well this might be inconvenient. Horse with no Name May 2017 #3
All roads lead to Russia. madaboutharry May 2017 #4
Jerk his security clearance Skidmore May 2017 #5
K&R !!!!!!!!! secondwind May 2017 #6
Impeach!!!! mvd May 2017 #7
Were? No. Are BadgerMom May 2017 #18
Definitely mvd May 2017 #20
Go talk to the Republicans. We are completely at their mercy. Kablooie May 2017 #37
uh oh trof May 2017 #8
Oh wow, hiding your conversations with the Russians? SummerSnow May 2017 #9
Concealing shows guilt NightWatcher May 2017 #11
Will Jared be returning to the United States? Barack_America May 2017 #10
Trying to evade detection, woo hoo flamingdem May 2017 #12
Treasonous- Russian is our adversary and Trump wasn't President yet and they failed to disclose wishstar May 2017 #13
I so want to think I'm dreaming or this is some kind of joke. How OldHippieChick May 2017 #14
On another note: slap a curly wig on that guy and he's the murderous mother with the bodies Squinch May 2017 #15
LOL!!!! Madam45for2923 May 2017 #32
Fucking treasonist commie bastards PCIntern May 2017 #16
Is it a coup yet? malaise May 2017 #17
Another Putin boot licker. kairos12 May 2017 #19
Not only Kushner, but also Erik Prince... AntiFascist May 2017 #21
Sec'y Betsy DeVos's brother, for those not yet aware... Gidney N Cloyd May 2017 #25
Also dealings with Libya... AntiFascist May 2017 #30
Fast forward to the bombing in Manchester blamed on terrorists from Libya... AntiFascist May 2017 #35
On CNN being covered extensively. Had WP journalist on - said WP received anonymous letter in DEC Justice May 2017 #22
Whoa. blue neen May 2017 #23
And they were worried about Hillary's emails MiddleClass May 2017 #24
Recommended. H2O Man May 2017 #26
Good reminder. Madam45for2923 May 2017 #33
Well as long as it wasn't actually Donnie himself ProudLib72 May 2017 #27
if only alice knew bora13 May 2017 #28
There will be intercepts of much of this. MineralMan May 2017 #29
Maxine up now malaise May 2017 #31
Why? Why did he/they need secret communications with Russia. Madam45for2923 May 2017 #34
Question is did he actually discuss this or is it more smoke the Russians are blowing to either cstanleytech May 2017 #36

madaboutharry

(40,209 posts)
4. All roads lead to Russia.
Fri May 26, 2017, 07:18 PM
May 2017

I do not believe that any of this has a benign explanation.

This is something Michelle Goldberg said to Chris Hayes last night - Kushner and Ivanka are "elegant and poised" so people project onto them qualities they don't have. She said in reality the Trumps are a gangster family.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
5. Jerk his security clearance
Fri May 26, 2017, 07:21 PM
May 2017

and get him outof the WH. That this was his suggestion is as bad as Flynn being NSA for 18 days.

mvd

(65,173 posts)
7. Impeach!!!!
Fri May 26, 2017, 07:24 PM
May 2017

This was a Russian takeover and the power hungry Repukes were all too willing participants.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
10. Will Jared be returning to the United States?
Fri May 26, 2017, 07:28 PM
May 2017

Sounds like he may have some "friends" waiting to visit with him.

wishstar

(5,269 posts)
13. Treasonous- Russian is our adversary and Trump wasn't President yet and they failed to disclose
Fri May 26, 2017, 07:31 PM
May 2017

The coverup and attempts to disguise are incredibly suspicious

OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
14. I so want to think I'm dreaming or this is some kind of joke. How
Fri May 26, 2017, 07:32 PM
May 2017

in God's name or any patriot's name can a loyal American think this is good news? I have never smacked anyone in the face in my entire life, but I would certainly like the opportunity to do that to Mr. Kushner. They do not care about anything or anyone but the almighty dollar. How disgusting. May they all rot in hell.

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
15. On another note: slap a curly wig on that guy and he's the murderous mother with the bodies
Fri May 26, 2017, 07:32 PM
May 2017

in the basement in a 70's Karen Black movie.

PCIntern

(25,541 posts)
16. Fucking treasonist commie bastards
Fri May 26, 2017, 07:37 PM
May 2017

What the fuck? I mean what the fuck?

AND I AM SICK AND TIRED OF PEOPLE LIKE RUTH MARCUS USING PHRASES LIKE "POSSIBLY INADVERTENT". Such bullshit.

This is a series of seditious liars lying their asses off and betraying the USA.

AntiFascist

(12,792 posts)
21. Not only Kushner, but also Erik Prince...
Fri May 26, 2017, 07:59 PM
May 2017
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/blackwater-founder-held-secret-seychelles-meeting-to-establish-trump-putin-back-channel/2017/04/03/95908a08-1648-11e7-ada0-1489b735b3a3_story.html?utm_term=.102f48fc3162

The United Arab Emirates arranged a secret meeting in January between Blackwater founder Erik Prince and a Russian close to President Vladi­mir Putin as part of an apparent effort to establish a back-channel line of communication between Moscow and President-elect Donald Trump, according to U.S., European and Arab officials.

...

AntiFascist

(12,792 posts)
30. Also dealings with Libya...
Fri May 26, 2017, 08:37 PM
May 2017
https://www.democracynow.org/2016/3/25/erik_prince_in_the_hot_seat

In a major new exposé, The Intercept has revealed that the Justice Department is investigating Blackwater founder Erik Prince for possible money laundering, ties to Chinese intelligence, and attempts to broker military services to foreign governments. Prince is currently the chairman of Frontier Services Group, an aviation and logistics firm specializing in shipping in Africa. But documents obtained by The Intercept show that Prince has also set up shell companies to offer paramilitary services to at least a half-dozen African nations, including Libya. Both the United States and the United Nations have imposed a series of restrictions on military dealings in Libya.

AntiFascist

(12,792 posts)
35. Fast forward to the bombing in Manchester blamed on terrorists from Libya...
Fri May 26, 2017, 09:19 PM
May 2017
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/africa/investigators-face-challenges-as-libya-becomes-a-key-focus-of-bombing-probe/2017/05/25/0e6a13b4-40be-11e7-b29f-f40ffced2ddb_story.html?utm_term=.12b2778bb55e

In March, Marine Corps Gen. Thomas Waldhauser, head of the Pentagon’s Africa Command, told the Senate Armed Services Committee that instability in Libya and North Africa “may be the most significant near-term threat” to the interests of the United States and its allies in Africa.

...


Why was the high tech used in the Manchester bombing leaked to the NYT?

Justice

(7,187 posts)
22. On CNN being covered extensively. Had WP journalist on - said WP received anonymous letter in DEC
Fri May 26, 2017, 08:12 PM
May 2017

about this meeting but had nothing to back it up - now have confirmed story with others.

Nicholas Burns is ripping Trump right now. Says Trump is weakest against Russia than any president since before WWII.

Jack Kingston was silenced by Burns. Said to Kingston - I hope you are right Jack but why the secrecy, makes no sense and went on and on.

WH now responding on this story - says no comment on WP story. Jeff Zeleny on CNN saying European allies all saying can Trump stand up to Putin.

Follow Steve Hall on Twitter - also very good.

Great panelists

MiddleClass

(888 posts)
24. And they were worried about Hillary's emails
Fri May 26, 2017, 08:19 PM
May 2017

Because the basement, ex-presidential computer server "might" have compromised classified communications.



And these bastards, wanted to mainline Vladimir Putin with those type classified communications.


Do as I say not as I do. Hypocrites

H2O Man

(73,537 posts)
26. Recommended.
Fri May 26, 2017, 08:21 PM
May 2017

Last edited Fri May 26, 2017, 08:57 PM - Edit history (2)

Keep in mind that Kushner and Flynn sent Erik Prince to the island off of Africa, for a secret meeting to promote this, in January.

bora13

(860 posts)
28. if only alice knew
Fri May 26, 2017, 08:26 PM
May 2017

that all she had to do before going through the mirror
was to lay a land line behind her, she would have been all set.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
29. There will be intercepts of much of this.
Fri May 26, 2017, 08:36 PM
May 2017

Whether they get revealed openly will depend on how far this goes in the courts, etc. The intelligence folks won't want them revealed, so it may lead quickly to a conclusion.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
36. Question is did he actually discuss this or is it more smoke the Russians are blowing to either
Fri May 26, 2017, 09:19 PM
May 2017

try and create more chaos in the US or is it an attempt to protect someone else that they are or were working with?

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