Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun May 28, 2017, 12:08 PM May 2017

Dan Rather blasts Trump for not treating Portland attack as a terrorist act

Last edited Sun May 28, 2017, 01:55 PM - Edit history (1)

Dear President Trump,

Their names were Taliesin Myrddin Namkai-Meche and Ricky John Best. One was a recent college graduate. The other was an army veteran and father of four. I wish we would hear you say these names, or even just tweet them. They were brave Americans who died at the hands of someone who, when all the facts are collected, we may have every right to call a terrorist. A third brave man, Micah David-Cole Fletcher, was wounded in the knife attack.

This story may not neatly fit into a narrative you pushed on the campaign trail and that has followed you into the White House. They were not killed by an undocumented immigrant or a "radical Islamic terrorist." They were killed in an act of civic love, facing down a man allegedly spewing hate speech directed at two teenage girls, one of whom was wearing a hijab. That man seems to have a public record of "extremist ideology" - a term issued by the Portland Police Bureau.

This "extremism" may be of a different type than gets most of your attention, or even the attention in the press. But that doesn't make it any less serious, or deadly. And this kind of "extremism" is on the rise, especially in the wake of your political ascendency. Most people who study these sorts of things do not think that is a coincidence. I do not blame you directly for this incident. Nor do I think other people should. But what a President says, who he has around him, and the tone he sets can set the tone for the nation at large.

Perhaps Portland, Oregon is off your radar. It is, after all, a rather liberal place. It's even a "sanctuary city." But it is still an American city. And you are its President. Two Americans have died leaving family and friends behind. They are mourned by millions more who are also deeply worried about what might come next.

I hope you can find it worthy of your time to take notice.

###

https://www.facebook.com/theDanRather/posts/10158743532925716

22 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Dan Rather blasts Trump for not treating Portland attack as a terrorist act (Original Post) DonViejo May 2017 OP
45 tries to encourage violent racist to do these things , not DIScourage them ;) luvMIdog May 2017 #1
Not once..... SergeStorms May 2017 #18
I agree with everything you have said. Completely luvMIdog May 2017 #19
Dan Rather--one of last real journalists left Va Lefty May 2017 #2
The perils of indifference - Elie Wiesel Mr. Ected May 2017 #3
Trump owns this. He's emboldened these hateful people. nt raccoon May 2017 #4
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2017 #5
The only way Trump is going to make a statement about this athena May 2017 #6
I wish Obama would say something on national news Chipper Chat May 2017 #21
This reflects my reasoning Mme. Defarge May 2017 #7
I was wondering why you deleted the thread. Quayblue May 2017 #13
Merci! Mme. Defarge May 2017 #14
I also agree with your reasoning. Amaryllis May 2017 #20
Portland is an American city, and the dead men were Americans gratuitous May 2017 #8
The Donald does not equate terrorism by...... ProudMNDemocrat May 2017 #9
The president's* silence on this attack ... neeksgeek May 2017 #10
Thank you, Dan Rather Hekate May 2017 #11
If for no other reason Donald could do it Mme. Defarge May 2017 #12
Dan Rather, we need you. NastyRiffraff May 2017 #15
We sure do. calimary May 2017 #17
Think like Trump: mn9driver May 2017 #16
omg leftstreet May 2017 #22

SergeStorms

(19,192 posts)
18. Not once.....
Sun May 28, 2017, 03:13 PM
May 2017

has 45 tried to bring this country together. He knows darned well that white supremacists are among his "base", and hasn't done ONE THING to try to control these animals. Not ONE WORD to the alt-right to cool things down. On the contrary, he's done everything possible to fan the flames of hate and intolerance. His supporters LOVE the fact that it's open season on journalists now. There WILL BE more attacks on the media, you can count on it.

There has never been such a failure in politics at ANY LEVEL, than Trump has been as President. He is the absolute WORST, and this country can't survive much longer with this jerkoff in the Oval Office.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
3. The perils of indifference - Elie Wiesel
Sun May 28, 2017, 12:40 PM
May 2017

"Indifference elicits no response. Indifference is not a response. Indifference is not a beginning; it is an end. And, therefore, indifference is always the friend of the enemy, for it benefits the aggressor -- never his victim, whose pain is magnified when he or she feels forgotten. The political prisoner in his cell, the hungry children, the homeless refugees -- not to respond to their plight, not to relieve their solitude by offering them a spark of hope is to exile them from human memory. And in denying their humanity, we betray our own.

Indifference, then, is not only a sin, it is a punishment."

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

athena

(4,187 posts)
6. The only way Trump is going to make a statement about this
Sun May 28, 2017, 12:47 PM
May 2017

is if someone who is very close to him manipulates him with endless flattery into doing so, by telling him how presidential it would look. Since there is no one around Trump who cares about Islamophobia, this is simply not going to happen.

Chipper Chat

(9,677 posts)
21. I wish Obama would say something on national news
Mon May 29, 2017, 10:20 AM
May 2017

About it that gets lots of attention. That would shame Blots into a tweet fit.

Mme. Defarge

(8,027 posts)
7. This reflects my reasoning
Sun May 28, 2017, 01:15 PM
May 2017

when I used the words "terrorist" and "terrorism" in the headlines of a couple of posts on the subject. I self-deleted those posts after getting scolded by a DU regular for misusing the term. I do think that the difference between what is considered a hate crime versus an act of terrorism is not entirely clear and should be debated in light of a growing concern about politically motivated domestic acts of violence. Here I am using a broad definition of "political" as described in this article: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics

The perpetrator of the crimes committed in Portland on Friday may not have gotten on the MAX train with an intent to do physical harm that was politically motivated, but he was armed and intentionally acting belligerently towards two women using public transportation because they appeared to be Muslim. Would he have done physical harm to them had he not been stopped? We probably can't know. But if he had been a Muslim and acting with escalating menace towards two non-Muslims how would it have been described in the press? Did the martyred heroes of the situation prevent a hate crime or a potential act of terrorism?

Quayblue

(1,045 posts)
13. I was wondering why you deleted the thread.
Sun May 28, 2017, 02:20 PM
May 2017

I happen to agree with you. Hate crimes are acts of terror as far as I'm concerned.





gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
8. Portland is an American city, and the dead men were Americans
Sun May 28, 2017, 01:17 PM
May 2017

This is the best of us, and President Trump can't be troubled to notice. It doesn't put money in his pocket.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,783 posts)
9. The Donald does not equate terrorism by......
Sun May 28, 2017, 01:24 PM
May 2017

Extremist White Supremacists the same as if committed by a Muslim.

People stand a greater chance to be assulted or killed by Christian White Supremacists than by an actual terrorist from the Middle East living in this country. For they love their Confederate flags, their version of Jesus, their guns, and their twisted ideology that goes back to the days of Reconstruction.

neeksgeek

(1,214 posts)
10. The president's* silence on this attack ...
Sun May 28, 2017, 01:38 PM
May 2017

speaks loudly. His silence is tacit approval of violence against his political opponents.

Frankly at this point, the president* could condemn this murder, and condemn the beatdown of a journalist in Montana, and condemn any number of other hateful things that have happened now that the right-wing radicals are so emboldened.

I wouldn't believe a word of it.

Mme. Defarge

(8,027 posts)
12. If for no other reason Donald could do it
Sun May 28, 2017, 02:00 PM
May 2017

as a nod to his newest pals, the Saudis. Unless, of course, the two women targeted on the train were Shi'a.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
15. Dan Rather, we need you.
Sun May 28, 2017, 02:34 PM
May 2017

One of the few great journalists left. He's absolutely right; Dump is responsible for the sharp increase in hate crimes. We hear about them every day. Just today, there are reports of multiple racist leaflets left on lampposts in Alexandria VA (close-in suburb of DC, for those unfamiliar with the area).

mn9driver

(4,423 posts)
16. Think like Trump:
Sun May 28, 2017, 02:54 PM
May 2017

How does commenting on this benefit me, Donald Trump?

Obviously any comment I make has to condemn the attack. But if I make it too soon or make it too strong, I will upset my base of not-bright supporters. So I will wait.

Once there has been enough comment on my no comment, the right wing echo chamber can establish the narrative of howling liberal bullies. Then, I will issue a statement condemning violence against all people, slanting it so my base can read between the lines to see my scorn for liberals and Muslims.

Perfect.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Dan Rather blasts Trump f...