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DemocratSinceBirth

(101,705 posts)
Sun May 28, 2017, 03:17 PM May 2017

How big a coup for Putin if NATO disintegrates?

He said the collapse of the Soviet empire was the biggest tragedy of the 20th century. Helping NATO destroy itself from within would be sweet revenge.

Trump is abetting him.

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How big a coup for Putin if NATO disintegrates? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 OP
Game over. liberal N proud May 2017 #1
It would be hard to amass 8,000 nukes like Russia has. DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #3
The next step for Putin will be having Trump drop sanctions on Russia so Exxon and cheyanne May 2017 #19
It's beyond his wildest dreams. Adrahil May 2017 #2
NATO's not going anywhere underpants May 2017 #4
Chump doesn't seem to want to belong or see the value in it. DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #6
Putin will have no barriers to reconstituting the USSR and adding more. NCjack May 2017 #5
Lead to ww3.... beachbum bob May 2017 #7
America has two friendly neighbors and nations in two continents as a buffer. DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #8
Not happening Dem2 May 2017 #9
Our president doesn't seem to have his heart in it and is hell bent on humiliating its members. DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #10
True Dem2 May 2017 #12
He seems hell bent on destroying it. DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #13
It would be an unbridled act of treason Dem2 May 2017 #21
The EU will replace NATO. roamer65 May 2017 #11
At this point the Europeans know Trump. Turbineguy May 2017 #14
I imagine the next downgrade from Europe will actually rank us as an enemy of Europe world wide wally May 2017 #15
NATO is not dead. It will go on with or without USA. Sculpin Beauregard May 2017 #16
NATO without America is like the Calgary Stampeders without Bo Levi Mitchell DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #18
From WSJ reporter Eli Stokols octoberlib May 2017 #17
President shitgibbon is not nearly as important as he thinks he is. cwydro May 2017 #20
And when Russia invades the Baltics and Eastern Europe maryellen99 May 2017 #22

liberal N proud

(61,175 posts)
1. Game over.
Sun May 28, 2017, 03:20 PM
May 2017

Russia has wanted the end of NATO as long as the republicans wanted to end Social Security. With Butternut in power they will all get what they want.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,705 posts)
3. It would be hard to amass 8,000 nukes like Russia has.
Sun May 28, 2017, 03:24 PM
May 2017

However Germany's economy alone dwarfs Russia. Together with a "coalition of the willing" Europe can deter Russia without us.

cheyanne

(733 posts)
19. The next step for Putin will be having Trump drop sanctions on Russia so Exxon and
Sun May 28, 2017, 04:44 PM
May 2017

Russia can exploit vast oil reserves. Once that happens Russia will become a rich autocracy and be able to use military might to take over Eastern Europe.

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,705 posts)
6. Chump doesn't seem to want to belong or see the value in it.
Sun May 28, 2017, 03:35 PM
May 2017

A stable and prosperous Europe is as of much benefit to them as it is to us.

NCjack

(10,297 posts)
5. Putin will have no barriers to reconstituting the USSR and adding more.
Sun May 28, 2017, 03:35 PM
May 2017

There will be wars all along the Russian borders as the expansions are initiated. Trump will not position USA to stop Russia, and no country in Europe has the military capability to do it. WW-III will be huge, and the super rich will make enormous profits. Trump will pull back our forces to form Fortress America, and call on Americans to pledge loyalty to him as the only person who can save us. Anyone trying to unseat him will be a "traitor".

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,705 posts)
13. He seems hell bent on destroying it.
Sun May 28, 2017, 04:05 PM
May 2017

Support for NATO used to be one of the few things the left and right were in agreement on.

Turbineguy

(39,912 posts)
14. At this point the Europeans know Trump.
Sun May 28, 2017, 04:07 PM
May 2017

It will not be a surprise. I doubt that Brexit changes anything as far as NATO goes.

world wide wally

(21,836 posts)
15. I imagine the next downgrade from Europe will actually rank us as an enemy of Europe
Sun May 28, 2017, 04:16 PM
May 2017

and an ally of Russia.
Are you all down with that, deplorables?

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