(Congestive) Heart failure and early-stage dementia

[PCIntern]

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Is my diagnosis.

[hrmjustin]

1. I don't disagree.

[Madam45for2923]

2. Donald? Why heart failure. Or not meant literally?

Please say more.

[hlthe2b]

34. No stamina, apparent shortness of breath during SA arrival speech

likely to be on beta blockers (which dulled his "performance" and likewise left him unable to deal with jet lag), may well be experiencing syncope (heart arrhythmias that can lead to fainting) and potentially, TIAs (transient ischemic attacks) that (along with everything else, including probable dementia with "sundowning&quot may explain his episode in Israel, where he initially walked off the stage in an apparent haze.

[Quixote1818]

38. He is under so much psychological stress and criticism he is not use to I bet he is taking drugs

probably all kinds of stuff. They say the presidency ages people 15 years it will probably kill him in just a couple of years.

[trueblue2007]

51. i have CONGESTIVE HEART FAILURE and i don't have dementia or anything else.

i got it 2 years ago from having severe viral flu

[hlthe2b]

59. No of course not.. TWO separate issues that I think Trump has. Never meant that CHF

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was linked to dementia.

My Mom developed viral cardiomyopathy which led to congestive heart failure so I very much appreciate what you are going through. Thankfully we have a lot of good medical advances to help today. I hope that is the case with you.

So very sorry that you thought I was saying otherwise. Be well.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

3. Sure looks that way to me.

[Demtexan]

9. He was riding in a golf cart.

The women walked.

Made him look weak.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

13. EVERYBODY was walking except him. I agree--he looked weak. And he was weak. n/t

[FM123]

4. What heart?

[SHRED]

8. He only has a physical one

Not an emotional and empathetic one.

[Jamaal510]

57. +1

[MineralMan]

5. I agree.

[leftstreet]

6. uh...so how long would you give him?

Heh

[Hassin Bin Sober]

32. He won't live out 4 years in office.

Dead in 2 years if he doesn't resign or get impeached.

[Horse with no Name]

7. I wouldn't grieve the loss. N/t

[CaliforniaPeggy]

10. I'd be very surprised if anyone here grieved the loss. n/t

[dalton99a]

53. It's a safe bet that the Trump spawn will demand the best presidential funeral ever

A full-blown extravaganza with paid holidays for workers and all that crap.

Ronald Reagan cost the country $400 million when he died.

[roamer65]

11. Hopefully he has DNR orders.

[TheDebbieDee]

28. THIS

[JDC]

61. He has Keep Recuscitating til you're blue in the face

And then try again orders.....If I had to guess

[GoCubsGo]

12. Either that or untreated syphillis.

Although, he might just be a very stupid, incurious asshole.

[bresue]

14. Agreed!

He swells up some days worse than others. Hands and gut getting puffier. Dementia because of loosing his train of thoughts so easily and forgetting quickly.

Maybe he will do us a favor...and croak soon! (Please God!)

[RKP5637]

21. Plus all the stress, he has no idea WTF he's doing. ... but then with his dementia and ego, he

might not even realize what a total basket case he is.

[Ilsa]

25. And his adult kids won't tell him

that he needs to see a real doctor.

[Demtexan]

15. No one will.

I sure there will be some parties.

We not even know right away.

You never know with this bunch.

[enough]

16. What do you mean by heart failure? NT

[Stinky The Clown]

20. Put "congestive heart failure" into your google machine and all sorts of wonders will be revealed

[LeftInTX]

41. It sounds worse than it is

It is fairly common.

My grandmother had it. She eventually died from a broken hip.

However, she wasn't obese like Trump.

[Brother Buzz]

17. Has the orange anus had a genuine physical exam lately?

A letter from Dr. Harold Bornstein's doesn't count

[Demtexan]

24. Did not other presidents have to have one?

But Trump is special.

[Brother Buzz]

33. That's why I'm asking

Silly me, but I always assumed there were certain expectations we expected from a person that could crash the market with a reckless tweet.

[Demtexan]

37. I thought it was a yearly thing.

Maybe something is being hidden.

The president would go to a military hospital.

[marylandblue]

18. Think he means congestive heart failure

Which is were the heart muscle is too weak to circulate the blood through the wbole body Causes tiredness, shortness of breath and swelling of the limbs. You can live a long time with it, but it would be hard to keep up a stressful lifestyle.or to.walk 700 yards.

[enough]

19. OK, thanks, I can see that. My dear old mother who weighed about 110 at 88 years old

had that diagnosis, and was indeed quite impaired in thinking and mobility, but had occasional periods of lucidity. A very different kind of dementia from my father, who had Alzheimer's.

[PCIntern]

27. Yes. Thanks. Corrected

I was writing the short post at a red light.

[RKP5637]

22. ...

[Phoenix61]

23. I don't think it's early stage

I think it's more progressed than that. His inability to navigate stairs, his word salad comments. It's full blown dementia.

[bresue]

26. I totally agree with the dementia

And also about the congestive heart failure that he is not managing. With his swelling up so easily from day to day...tells me he is not managed. Every time I see him...he is a different size. And look at his skin...it is pasty, dry, and lacks any glow.

He feels awful, thus gets irritable, cantankerous, and blows his stack! I imagine his blood pressure is way high too...he will probably have either a stroke or heart attack soon. Just a guess since he is not managing any of it.

[samnsara]

29. well he doesnt drink or smoke...too bad.

[jack69]

44. Probably other addictions.

[Initech]

64. His addiction to greasy foods will probably be his undoing.

[Ilsa]

30. I hope he keels over on top of Pence and smothers him.

You may be right. We can't be sure, but he certainly has some awful signs of both pathologies.

I wonder how long before he gives a speech and just totally falls apart, thinking he's on the campaign trail running against HRC. Or develops classic heart attack symptoms in front of his staff and they call a dr for him.

[bresue]

31. With Dementia, Patients Don't Realize Anything is Wrong.

And don't acknowledge any symptoms. Which really surprises me that there is no one else around him that cannot see his failing health...or maybe they do and hoping it happens??

[Ilsa]

39. I think people like Ivanka haven't been around sick or elderly people.

I doubt she's ever done a lick of volunteer work, like being a candy striper. Taking care of the infirm and sick people is dirty work. The only thing they know about is making money. I doubt they know much of anything about health except what their personal trainers have taught them. They won't recognize disease states.

Yes, I'm biased about this, but it's my opinion.

[bresue]

42. I agree!

[moonscape]

46. LOL (falling on Pence) - I'm not sure his staff would call a doc though ... n/t

[Barack_America]

35. Diastolic heart failure and vascular dementia.

Atherosclerosis and hypertension are his problems.

[bresue]

43. Do You Think We Should Tell Anyone?

Lol! That we have diagnosed him? Before it is too late?

[Still In Wisconsin]

36. I hope he dies soon (of natural causes). n/t

[Quixote1818]

40. Well, I am thinking he was born without a heart

or at a minimum it was born three sizes too small like the Grinch. If he was born with a heart it failed a long time ago.

[Generic Brad]

45. He certainly has the failure part down pat

But I haven't seen any indication yet that he has a heart.

[X_Digger]

47. You know, it was stupid when Bill Frist did it re Terry Schaivo. Telediagnosis is still stupid. n/t

[Blindingly apparent]

54. During the debatEs

He often huffed and puffed and sniffles. I thought at the time there was something physically wrong. Is that a symptom of heart failure?

I am extremely visually impaired so I no longer google

[PCIntern]

62. You'd have to be utterly not paying attention

To miss this.

[X_Digger]

65. I'm sure Bill Frist thought the same thing. *shrug*

[3catwoman3]

48. In another thread, I just said that we do NOT...

...want him to die IN office.

We want him perp walked OUT of office.

I want him to be an EX-pRezident, not a late pRezident.

[Historic NY]

49. Send buckets of KFC & Chocolate cake.

[malaise]

50. And two scoops

of icecream

[dalton99a]

52. Cake should be beautiful

and huge - for maximum effects

[Wabbajack_]

55. Oh, of Trump you mean

I thought you were saying YOU were diagnosed. I'm glad you are actually ok.

[Chellee]

56. So did I.

I read the OP, then I read the first reply and thought, what a horrifyingly heartless thing to say. Then I read the rest of the thread and realized everyone was talking about Trump.

[Vinca]

58. I think you're exactly right.

He might be a hair beyond early stage for the dementia, though. Half the time his brain is so scrambled he can't produce a cogent sentence.

[DrDan]

60. his behaviors would certainly suggest those as possibilities

[BigDemVoter]

63. DEFINITELY some form of dementia going on here.

He was already a blithering clown, but he's even worse.

He could very well have congestive heart failure from which he would have shortness of breath and just general intolerance to exercise. . .

But then again, Pussy Grabber is obese and obviously doesn't think ANY form of exercise is good, so his shortness of breath could simply be related to his rotund, flabby body and porcine eating habits.