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applegrove

(118,478 posts)
Sun May 28, 2017, 08:07 PM May 2017

American conservatives love to bash Canadian health care but U.S. corporations love it

DAVE LINDORFF at Salon

http://www.salon.com/2017/05/28/american-conservatives-love-to-bash-canadian-health-care-but-u-s-corporations-love-it/

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President Donald Trump has been pushing hard, along with Republicans in Congress, to eliminate former President Barack Obama’s Affordable Care Act. But as he and leaders of the Senate and House struggle to come up with some alternative health care law, they might ask themselves why large companies like General Motors, Ford and Chrysler (now Fiat Chrysler) over recent decades have shifted roughly half their car and truck production — and the jobs that go with them — across the Detroit River into Canada.

Here’s one big reason they did it: Canada’s government-run single-payer health system, known as Medicare — to be clear, not the same Medicare as the American health care system for senior citizens — lowers those auto companies’ health care costs from more than $15,000 per worker in the United States to just a few thousand dollars in Canada, with all Canadian taxpayers, not just employees and their employers, picking up the tab.

House to send health care bill to Senate in a few weeks

Canada’s health care system, since it was established in 1968 and became fully implemented by the provinces in 1971, has functioned as a government insurance program for negotiating fees to and then paying physicians, hospitals and other health care providers. Funded broadly by individual and corporate taxpayers, the tax burden on Canadian employers for Canada’s Medicare system works out to about $1,000 per worker per year and several thousand more per family.

Although few if any executives of large firms in the U.S. have advocated a similar single-payer system here, executives of Canadian subsidiaries of those same companies not only say they like the system, but enthusiastically make use of it not just for their workers, but for themselves and their families. In fact, a decade ago, those executives of U.S. Canadian subsidiaries joined with executives and union presidents of Canadian-based firms to lobby the Canadian government to expand and increase funding for Medicare, seeking to have it cover long-term care, dental care and drugs.

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American conservatives love to bash Canadian health care but U.S. corporations love it (Original Post) applegrove May 2017 OP
Well, why don't those business leaders who The Con loves so much tell him that! napi21 May 2017 #1
How the Canadians really got it to take off was brilliant. roamer65 May 2017 #2
I've been saying that the best thing government could do for business in terms of healthcare was Victor_c3 May 2017 #3
Thank you for posting! OrwellwasRight May 2017 #4

napi21

(45,806 posts)
1. Well, why don't those business leaders who The Con loves so much tell him that!
Sun May 28, 2017, 08:23 PM
May 2017

All they's have to do is explain how they love it and enacting such a program would make HIM a super star in the US! That would convince him to do anything necessary to get the House & Senate to pass it stat! I believe he'd have the support of most of the Dems and probably the moderate Repubs. That should be enough to get the necessary votes to pass it and the heck with the rest of them!

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
2. How the Canadians really got it to take off was brilliant.
Sun May 28, 2017, 08:25 PM
May 2017

If a province would switch over to single-payor universal, they got a dollar for dollar match from the Canadian federal government. I don't know if that ratio still exists, but it was the primary reason for Saskatchewan's model sweeping across the country.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
3. I've been saying that the best thing government could do for business in terms of healthcare was
Sun May 28, 2017, 08:26 PM
May 2017

was to disconnect it from employment.

Businesses wouldn't have to deal with providing health benefits and they could focus their resources on other aspects of business.

OrwellwasRight

(5,170 posts)
4. Thank you for posting!
Sun May 28, 2017, 08:27 PM
May 2017

You know the same companies that support single payer in Canada spend money to oppose it here. And you know why? Well, at least one of them told the brilliant Jeff Faux (http://www.jefffaux.com) that it is because of class solidarity (you can read the anecdote in his book the Global Class War) (https://www.amazon.com/Global-Class-War-Americas-Bipartisan/dp/0470098287).

People need to stop fooling themselves that there isn't a class war in the US. There is. It is being waged very effectively by the rich against everyone else.

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