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zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
Mon May 29, 2017, 05:25 PM May 2017

Back channels for what

What occurs to me is that Jared was attempting to set up a back channel, prior to actually being in office, through Russian controlled and protected means. Considering that they never really backed away from their business connections, this type of connection could continue well past this administration. It would not be an unprecedented idea. During Iran Contra, they thought they could create a permanent funding apparatus so that they could continue confronting Russia outside the overview of Congress. The Trump clan could clearly have thought of something similar, only for their own profit and power. They could have wanted a permanent, undetectable connection to the Russian Oligarchs, for funding of future profits, and the ability to continue to washing Russian mob money for profit.

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RKP5637

(67,030 posts)
1. And some are trying to whitewash it as naive. That IMO is total bullshit. They knew exactly
Mon May 29, 2017, 05:26 PM
May 2017

what they were doing!

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
4. Navet seems to be the operative word...
Mon May 29, 2017, 05:47 PM
May 2017

The choices (imho): is he ignorant, or was he being deceptive, and the best fit is both.

In other words he's a lying treasonous fool.

sandensea

(21,526 posts)
2. To a big, fat offshore account with lots of Cyrillic writing on it.
Mon May 29, 2017, 05:37 PM
May 2017

This is the ULTIMATE espionage scandal.

onecaliberal

(32,471 posts)
3. His property in America is failing he was seeking financing for one thing. He was looking
Mon May 29, 2017, 05:44 PM
May 2017

To see what they could give in return. He's not naive, he knew precisely what he was doing. Maggot knew what he was doing as well. I'm quite certain Kushner would have talked to maggot about it before moving ahead.

OnDoutside

(19,905 posts)
5. Back channels for working out the best way to engineer the lifting of sanctions so the
Mon May 29, 2017, 05:50 PM
May 2017

Trump "Gang" can get their debts paid (and then some) from Putin.

MiddleClass

(888 posts)
7. The whole idea of the back channel
Mon May 29, 2017, 06:23 PM
May 2017

Was when he was running his companys.

What better way to plan the lifting of sanctions. Using a method/tools that will allow you to break those sanctions at will without detection with presidential approval.

Make crime pay and be immune from prosecution.

MedusaX

(1,129 posts)
9. If he were truly naive, he would have simply asked Kislyak what the best way would be to contact the
Mon May 29, 2017, 06:44 PM
May 2017

Kremlin directly.

Or he would have attempted to make contact directly using his personal cell phone or perhaps another personal/campaign related phone line.

That would be consistent with someone who is not aware that what they are doing is possibly illegal or immoral.

Instead.....
Jared ushered the Russian Ambassador in though a remote entrance to Trump Tower...
(While everyone else was using the main entrance)

Then specifically asked the Russian Ambassador if he would mind setting up a special direct line to the Kremlin FROM the Russian Embassy....
So that Jared & Flynn & whomever could stop by and call the Kremlin
Without having to go through the traditional WH channels

My map shows the Embassy of the Russian Federation to be 112 miles from the WhiteHouse...

Maybe they were discussing something closer...

But even in Texas ...
driving 112 miles to use the phone is not 'normal' 'typical' or done due to 'naivety'

That would roughly be the equivalent of driving from San Antonio to Mexico (156 mi)

And Jared was willing to do this just to innocently use a phone that would not draw attention from the IC or WH staffers...??????

FFS people....

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