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kentuck

(111,079 posts)
Tue May 30, 2017, 06:05 PM May 2017

Are Generals McMaster and Kelly lying to protect their jobs?

...and to maintain their high positions within the Trump Cabinet?

Or have they been drawn into the cult of the Trump personality?

Do they truly believe what they are saying??

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Are Generals McMaster and Kelly lying to protect their jobs? (Original Post) kentuck May 2017 OP
Who knows but McMaster is a soldier and has to obey higher ups. Madam45for2923 May 2017 #1
A Colin Powell scenario? nt ProudLib72 May 2017 #4
Possibly.... Adrahil May 2017 #5
Most of our military don't ever come in contact with the civilian leadership, and there is no politicaljunkie41910 May 2017 #6
Both are ex soldiers. awesomerwb1 May 2017 #2
Very disappointing isn't it? vlyons May 2017 #3
Quite possibly... or perhaps they have been authorized to lie as a way to maintain credibility while MedusaX May 2017 #7
stockholm syndrome JI7 May 2017 #8
 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
5. Possibly....
Tue May 30, 2017, 06:37 PM
May 2017

Out military is generally trained to support the civilian leadership, and most take that obligation seriously.

However, IMO, these men are cashing in their credibility. At some point, integrity has to trump (heh) supporting the boss.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
6. Most of our military don't ever come in contact with the civilian leadership, and there is no
Tue May 30, 2017, 07:00 PM
May 2017

one in the military I know, who would tell a lie to protect a civilian; particularly this president. The military system of justice is much harsher than a civilian court system. I would never lie while in the military or in office, especially to protect an asshole like Trump. These men would have had a better chance of protecting their rear ends and protecting their future livelihood by telling the truth, whatever that truth is, especially since everyone knows what a liar Trump is. People would respect them for their honesty and their integrity.

As Mueller said at that graduation over the weekend:

"If you have integrity, nothing else matters. If you have no integrity, nothing else matters."

awesomerwb1

(4,267 posts)
2. Both are ex soldiers.
Tue May 30, 2017, 06:20 PM
May 2017

Both seem way too eager to lie through their teeth in support of cheeto.

Traitors the lot of them.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
3. Very disappointing isn't it?
Tue May 30, 2017, 06:21 PM
May 2017

Just shows how powerful are the corrupting temptations of power and money.

MedusaX

(1,129 posts)
7. Quite possibly... or perhaps they have been authorized to lie as a way to maintain credibility while
Tue May 30, 2017, 07:01 PM
May 2017

Undercover...

May Sound crazy ...
but so did the idea of
Trump being #45 ...
Bannon as WH /presidential strategist
DeVos as Sec Education
Perry as Sec Energy
Tillerson as SoS
Fuckhead keebler elfkin as AG
Kushner & Czarina as WH Advisors
Wilbur Ross, M-DoucheN, or any other appointees

Or
Pissing off NATO allies
Body slamming reporters the day before being elected to congress
Or
Having the Russian Ambassador & Russian FM over to the Oval Office to discuss classified intelligence while the TASS guy checks the A/V potential of the room .... and the US press are prohibited from attending....

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