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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCorey Booker, Kamala Harris, and Kirsten Gillibrand are clearly the future leaders of this party
I don't mean ONLY, i just mean it's very clear that they are.
Two weeks ago there was a twitter war against Gillibrand, this week it's Corey, i'm sure shortly it will be Kamala.
We should remain very vigilant against these assaults on the future leaders of our party. The stronger their star shines, the more the fake news and propaganda attacks against them will be.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)MyNameIsKhan
(2,205 posts)La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)like with joy, not sorrow.
MyNameIsKhan
(2,205 posts)La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... what the person says is presented in an OP title and then K&R'd by a lot of LPCs.
There should be a base of what dems want, I'm not going to get everything I want on equal pay, voter suppression and civil rights and economic progress but there should be a base of what we stand for and if the person stand on that base then bashing them for one or two stupid's they'll do in their life shouldn't disqualify them.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)yardwork
(61,599 posts)chillfactor
(7,575 posts)La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)I also know they are way more leaders, those three really shine though
MyNameIsKhan
(2,205 posts)An immigrant from south India as a student and move the world in terms of traditions...
Bucky
(53,998 posts)There's never going to a line on an electoral ballot called "the Castro brothers". It'll be one or the other. Julian or the ugly one. They're not interchangeable... sheesh
Amaryllis
(9,524 posts)StevieM
(10,500 posts)I could see him becoming Speaker of the House down the line.
I think that maybe Steny Hoyer will retire in 2020. Pelosi will hopefully become Speaker in 2018 or 2020. Clyburn will become majority leader, if only for two years.
Lujan, the current chair of the DCCC, could be majority whip in 2020, majority leader in 2022 and Speaker in 2024.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)but, he was born in Taiwan, so is not eligible to be president or VP. Would make a great Atty General
emulatorloo
(44,120 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)I won't link to their tripe, but it was the same old formula. Dig up one example that looks suspicious without any context and leave out all the other myriad ways candidate x has supported this issue.
bagelsforbreakfast
(1,427 posts)La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)as long as we don't have comey + russian interference again + our base is actually allowed to vote
caraher
(6,278 posts)I think she has a good ear for issues that play well across the political spectrum.
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)She has a very solid record of supporting her constituents--which means she has some blue dog tendencies. However, I'm not as opposed to blue dogs as some on the left because there are actually blue dog Dems under our tent and they deserve representation too.
She, IMO, has a very solid voting record on important progressive issues but also supports her more moderate constituents too and I don't think that's pandering from her, I think she's actually doing the job she was hired to do.
derby378
(30,252 posts)I remember a lot of the flak around her appointment was over her approval rating from the NRA. Carolyn McCarthy threatened to primary her until Chuck Schumer ran interference and brought McCarthy and the Brady Campaign into Gillibrand's office. Since then, her votes on gun legislation have changed dramatically, partially over the threat of a bruising primary.
She could have been one of the moderating voices on gun legislation in the Democratic Party, but Gillibrand developed cold feet.
jehop61
(1,735 posts)We need new, fresh ideas in the party
sheshe2
(83,750 posts)democratisphere
(17,235 posts)La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)Response to La Lioness Priyanka (Reply #18)
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La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Unfortunately not garbage:
http://billmoyers.com/story/reason-booker-big-pharma-dems-no-excuse/
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)Bucky
(53,998 posts)He's handsome, single, vegetarian, young, heroic, well financed, affable, and gifted with a moderate temperament (despite having the 5th most progressive voting record in the Senate). He's the one to beat for anyone angling for the 2020 slot.
So it's not surprising people are gunning for him. It's a little surprising it takes so little rumor-spreading to poison his name in some quarters of the party.
tiredtoo
(2,949 posts)Booker is a corporate Dem.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)yardwork
(61,599 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)tiredtoo
(2,949 posts)Booker votes to maintain higher drug prices for Americans.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/democrats-havent-learned-cory-booker-chooses-wall_us_5879119ee4b077a19d180d45
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)After this, therefor because of this...
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Do tell. This is interesting.
tiredtoo
(2,949 posts)Please provide link to data. thank you.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)tiredtoo
(2,949 posts)Voted for an amendment that failed to pass. CYA ?
Booker is an establishment politician. The same establishment that has led us (Democrats) down a path of self destruction. We are now reduced to protesting at town halls or on the streets. These actions may make for good press but they achieve nothing. The politicians continue voting in favor of the money that bought them.
And Democratic control of local, state and federal governments continues to fade into darkness.
Carry on my friends, carry on!
JustAnotherGen
(31,818 posts)We will vote him right back into office - for all the reasons you pointed out. I'm a donor to Booker - I bought him.
tiredtoo
(2,949 posts)But i would prefer a candidate that better understands the wants and needs of working men and women in this country. The establishment Democratic party has drifted away from these people in their quest for money from the moneyed few.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)So keep going.
tiredtoo
(2,949 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Even though it destroys your RW narrative of Booker taking bribes. You're being fed a load of horse shit.
tiredtoo
(2,949 posts)And watch as the ship continues sinking. I do not recall saying Booker took bribes other than to say politicians vote based on what their owners want. Not Right wing at all, Republicans are even more openly owned.
Corporate America got their greedy hooks into both parties over the last 30/40 years.
If you are willing to accept the status quo, by all means carry on , carry on.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)emulatorloo
(44,120 posts)LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)And No for Booker. Not now, not in 2020, either.
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)A woman
A black man
A black woman
And all three are among the top rated Progressive Senators.
yardwork
(61,599 posts)The attacks are in a familiar format and in a familiar script. The purpose is clearly to divide Democratic voters so that Republicans stay in power.
Resist.
FM123
(10,053 posts)I remember this is exactly how the game was played (and we were played) during the election
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)It's eerily familiar.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Umm. NO!
Harris and Gillibrand. Possibly. But Booker, Heck No.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)You gotta hate that, of course you do.
JCanete
(5,272 posts)him or other politicians. It is designed to define those who vote party line as progressive. That isn't an accurate assessment, even if, for the most part, it follows that trend. It concerns me that its being used as such.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)JCanete
(5,272 posts)be subjective but at least putting some effort in to getting to the conclusion that we are supposedly arriving at.
What is being done instead is to rank a vote as progressive IF that vote was in line with the party, and out of line with the opposing party. That means that bills that reach across the aisle and court 5, 10 or 15 republicans, when voted in favor of, are registered as progressive votes, which is utter nonsense. If you can court any Republicans, you've come to the middle or even taken a step or two over the line, in this climate.
On the other hand, if you refuse to vote with those 40 democrats and 10 conservatives, possibly because you think a huge tax cut is not in our best interest, surprisingly, your vote will register as non-progressive.
Its great data, but framing it the way this site frames it, is borderline dishonest.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)JCanete
(5,272 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Donors IIRC, to me both of those things are non-starters- not grounded in reality.
JCanete
(5,272 posts)a litmus test of whether or not you vote party line? Just be honest about what the criteria actually is. You can make so many good arguments about why Booker and others are great statesemen for reaching across the aisle, but make those then. Don't use a trumped up measure to tell people he or any others are in the top 5 progressives when it comes to voting record. That is not actually what this data shows. If you care to refute that statement, I'm all ears, but you apparently have no interest in doing so.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Quixote1818
(28,930 posts)http://freebeacon.com/politics/meet-the-ten-most-liberal-senators/
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/83907-ranking-the-most-liberal-and-conservative-lawmakers
He comes in 27th here:
#74 0.24 Sen. Cory Booker [D-NJ]
#75 0.23 Sen. Harry Reid [D-NV, 1987-2016]
#76 0.22 Sen. Benjamin Cardin [D-MD]
#77 0.21 Sen. Ron Wyden [D-OR]
#78 0.20 Sen. Patrick Leahy [D-VT]
#79 0.20 Sen. Debbie Stabenow [D-MI]
#80 0.19 Sen. Brian Schatz [D-HI]
#81 0.18 Sen. Robert Bob Menéndez [D-NJ]
#82 0.17 Sen. Christopher Murphy [D-CT]
#83 0.16 Sen. Charles Chuck Schumer [D-NY]
#84 0.15 Sen. Patty Murray [D-WA]
#85 0.15 Sen. Barbara Mikulski [D-MD, 1987-2016]
#86 0.14 Sen. Tammy Baldwin [D-WI]
#87 0.14 Sen. Dianne Feinstein [D-CA]
#88 0.13 Sen. Mazie Hirono [D-HI]
#89 0.12 Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse [D-RI]
#90 0.12 Sen. Sherrod Brown [D-OH]
#91 0.11 Sen. John Jack Reed [D-RI]
#92 0.11 Sen. Richard Blumenthal [D-CT]
#93 0.11 Sen. Barbara Boxer [D-CA, 1993-2016]
#94 0.08 Sen. Jeff Merkley [D-OR]
#95 0.07 Sen. Richard Durbin [D-IL]
#96 0.06 Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand [D-NY]
#97 0.05 Sen. Alan Al Franken [D-MN]
#98 0.04 Sen. Edward Ed Markey [D-MA]
#99 0.04 Sen. Bernard Bernie Sanders [I-VT]
#100 0.00 Sen. Elizabeth Warren [D-MA]
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/report-cards/2016/senate/ideology
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Because fuck the partisan hacks at Free Beacon very much. I'm not wasting my time with that shit.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Caroline Kennedy but he was right.
Kristen Gillibrand is a true gem for this state and country.
Harris is hitting the ground running.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)StevieM
(10,500 posts)At the end of the day, he was the one who made the appointment. The choice was entirely his and nobody could force him to pick her if he didn't want to.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)Schumer asked for her and Paterson selected her.
Not sure why you sound hostile but I really liked Paterson
StevieM
(10,500 posts)I posted what I wrote.
I guess when you are on the internet it can be hard to tell exactly what a person is thinking or how they are trying to come across, since you cannot hear the person speaking or pick up a tone in their voice.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)And we sorted it out
StevieM
(10,500 posts)I thought at the time that it made no sense. She was a member of the U.S. House, not some random person who he liked. And she was from upstate, which gave the Democrats some inroads there. It would not have been optimal to have two Democrats from the City representing us in the Senate. Upstate has to be included too, especially since all the other statewide elected Dems were from the City.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)mcar
(42,307 posts)This is hate on Booker week on the internet.
Atman
(31,464 posts)I did a lot of campaign work for Kirsten, and I even designed many of her frank mail pieces to her constituents. But Corey...I don't know. He's personable, he's likable, but he sure seems to cozy up to the "wrong" side of issues a bit too often for my taste. I mean...supporting Jared? What's up with that?
emulatorloo
(44,120 posts)These click-bait half-truth hatchet job "articles" some folk post here are prett transparent once one digs a little deeper.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Some Jill Stein pundits posted misleading headlines claiming one did.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)...until after some arbitrary amount of time or threshold of proof has passed.
That is a defense. Not a defense of Kushner's activities, exactly, but definitely a defense of Kushner retaining a security clearance.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)calling for someone to be investigated for misdeeds is not a defense of that person
Nevermypresident
(781 posts)on his form...Any lower level govnt. employee would have clearance revoked immediately, period.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)If he's cleared, reinstate it. Easy.
Booker prefers risk on behalf of a donor.
emulatorloo
(44,120 posts)Insisting on a full investigation of Kushner is not 'defending' Kusher.
Paladin
(28,254 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)TheDebbieDee
(11,119 posts)Left-leaners fell for it!
Once the right determines that Harris or Gillibrand or whomever has Democratic STAR-POWER, that person is pre-emptively smeared!
They smeared Sec Clinton so badly for 25 years before she ran for President that even many on the left thought she was a criminal...
StevieM
(10,500 posts)I think the biggest problem she faced was new smears, and a brand new phony scandal about her emails. It was uniquely successful, primarily because James Comey chose to involve the FBI, thereby giving the story the appearance of legitimacy.
Bucky
(53,998 posts)DANCE OFF!!
v
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)StevieM
(10,500 posts)I live Jay Inslee, the governor of Washington, who will be 69 in 2020. And I like Elizabeth Warren, who will be 71.
The people you listed are all good too.
lapfog_1
(29,199 posts)Today's leaders are Warren, Frankin, Schiff.
emulatorloo
(44,120 posts)Nevermypresident
(781 posts)campaign?
emulatorloo
(44,120 posts)Trump used to donate to Democrats as well. Trump used to say lots of liberal things, He even publically supported single payer.
Nevermypresident
(781 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,818 posts)Folks wouldn't be attacking them if they weren't.
SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)DemocraticWing
(1,290 posts)La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)huge wins for Mello, Feingold, Teachout, Quist!! so impressive. can hardly take so much winning.
JHan
(10,173 posts))
tiredtoo
(2,949 posts)Here is a link to more data affirming my previous comment about Booker being a corporate Dem.
It basically exposes some of Booker's corporate funding and his actions based on the funding.
http://www.bluedotdaily.com/cory-booker-defends-jared-kushner-then-a-money-trail-shows-up/